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Quote altagu Replybullet Topic: The Axopus!
    Posted: 26 June 2009 at 12:49am
from the depths of my disturbed imagination, comes the Axopus. Originally a drawing I scanned, then turned to pixels, here is my lineart:
 
updated july 20th: got darker skin tone in on head, and i realize how wrong it is. so please, gimme some much needed cc!


CC please


and also, i'm going to keep the canvas the same size until the piece is done, so that i can make the WIP animation run smooth.


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Quote minipuck Replybullet Posted: 27 June 2009 at 3:31am
it only has 7 arms/tentacles.

please click it, otherwise it will die, and it seems special.
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2009 at 7:05pm
thanks, i've made the edit, check first post
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Quote SHANN0N Replybullet Posted: 29 June 2009 at 8:47pm
I think that this is way too big to work with. If I were you I'd probably want to make it like...1/6 of the size it is now. 
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 02 July 2009 at 4:51pm
from the beginning i was planning on making this my biggest pixel art challenge ever.

thanks for the suggestion, but i'm sticking with this.

update, first post!
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Quote minipuck Replybullet Posted: 03 July 2009 at 10:54am
nice, that gives some clarification about where the suctionpads are going to be.

please click it, otherwise it will die, and it seems special.
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2009 at 3:54pm
update first post! i've found some of my base colours, im hating the skin colour and am trying to find a better one.
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2009 at 8:21pm
sorry for double post, but update, all my base colours are found
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Quote Souly Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2009 at 9:20pm
Originally posted by altagu

from the beginning i was planning on making this my biggest pixel art challenge ever.

thanks for the suggestion, but i'm sticking with this.

update, first post!

Well too bad it sucks and probably wont be allowed into the gallery.
Not unless you shrink it down.

Regardless what you want I can tell you, you are not going to learn by trying to go "biggest pixel art ever" you learn pixel art from the small stuff man.

SHRINK IT DOWN.
Or this piece will never be finished.

I am the jesus of PJ.
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2009 at 9:42pm
Yes, and I've been through all that small stuff and have already learned what I need to know. If the time comes that I realize this is too much, then I will shrink it down.

Till then, no, I won't.
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Quote AngelOTG Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2009 at 12:01am
*sigh*

You don't realize that the reason it needs to be shrunk is not because of a lack of skill. A lot of newbies to any form of art seem to think "To make a big picture, I need to make this really big." That's not true. Such a large canvas needs lots and lots of detail. Putting a giant squid there to fill the canvas is not the thing to do.

Shrink the squid. Put it in a scene that fills the canvas. Don't fill the canvas with the oversized squid.
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2009 at 12:55am
You've already learned what you need to know? you got a long ways to go kid, and if you're gonna be bull-headed and ignore advice from people more experienced than you, then you'll never improve.
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2009 at 11:19am
alright, well, you've all made your point. how much should i shrink this by to you suggest?

edit: and also, before you go off calling me a noob, i was already a regular here for about a few months over a year under the name of silent sniper (if anybody actually happen to remember, i'll admit, i was a stubborn jackass then) before taking about a 6 month hiatus from this place.


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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2009 at 12:47pm
I think 25-35% of its current size would be ideal.

p.s. we don't allow multiple accounts, so while we really prefer members not create new accounts in the first place, what's done is done, and I assume you won't mind if I ban "silent sniper"


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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2009 at 1:48pm
Please do ban that old account, I created a new account as my forum membership was suspended on silent sniper

edit: well, here it is shrunk 50% (i started shading before i shrunk it), is it good size now or smaller/larger?



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Quote AngelOTG Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2009 at 10:05pm
I didn't call you a "noob". Noob is used to insinuate some kind of lower status. I called you "newbie to art", which I meant only as "you're new to art". XD;

The new size is much better. :3
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 11 July 2009 at 12:07am
now use that highlight shade, clean up the lines, and shade the hatchets
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 16 July 2009 at 12:48pm
alright, lines cleaned up. basic lighting on the skin done (its kinda messy, but for now i just need to know where theyre going to be), i'm gonna do the shadowed areas next, then i'll clean up both after.

check first post.
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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 20 July 2009 at 7:48pm
umm, got the darkened shade in on the head area, and I know the shading is pretty wrong, and yes, lots of cc needed please!!
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Quote Hatch Replybullet Posted: 21 July 2009 at 12:33pm
Originally posted by altagu

and also, i'm going to keep the canvas the same size until the piece is done, so that i can make the WIP animation run smooth.

I don't understand. You're going to complete it at the current size then shrink it when you're done? That won't work without a whole lot of touching up afterwards. A whole lot. It would make a lot more sense to just work at that size regardless of what it'll do to your WIP anim.
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Quote cure Replybullet Posted: 21 July 2009 at 4:17pm
He means all that unused white space. Though I still think the piece itself is too large given the amount of detail, and shaping it up will be much more difficult the larger it is. you shrank it down, why's it larger with this newest update?



water/slobber/etc not effected by the shadows, eyes different sizes, lack of definition of form. though i didn't bother fixing it, the concentration of tentacles is way off, they should be evenly dispersed (and not on a single plane). you're not using your shadow enough throughout the piece (you have many shades, but in some areas use only a few, despite the need for darker shadows or brighter highlights). hue shifting would help the piece, and some colors are too saturated. black outlines (teeth) are used inconsistently. bottom teeth should be at least partially visible. some areas (right side of head) have thick lines (almost like outlining), not sure why these exist. nose shape is wonky, use references (in fact, google human faces and octopus/squid).
The general character design bothers me a bit, i feel as if the face is too prominent and large, and as a result it looks not like a strange creature but a head that has sprouted tentacles (themselves arranged in an unnatural fashion)




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Quote altagu Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2009 at 11:46pm
about his shape and features, my original intentions weren't to make the octopus itself look realistic by any means. I want more of a mutant creature with its appendages to be in sort of a random order (though I'm not exactly sure how i'd go about drawing the tentacles on different planes, i realize that's kind of a contradiction in my idea, i'll get to work on that). and about your thoughts on it being a head that sprouted tentacles, i must admit, i never had thought of it like that until you said.

but thank you so much for you shading edits. I'm not going to continue on from your edit, but I'll use it as a guide for mine.
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Quote Dhr. Bosch Replybullet Posted: 28 July 2009 at 2:56pm
the tentacle that holds the axe is twists around it 5 times but it's way too thin where it's holding the axe, also, part of what makes octopi and cephalopods in general so disturbing, is thatthey seem like shapeless masses of tentacle to us, which make them hard for us to read (we like to be able to read animals intentions, thats why we generally dislike animals that have a very outlandish physique, like snakes and spiders) you made your axopus very readable by showing every tentacle seperatly.

did a quick edit:


and finally, from one guy who's been told he uses oo large canvasses to another: let's show them some serious pixeling! finish this! and when the time comes that we are called to the heavens we shall face our forefathers and tell tem: fcuk what you did in WWII, we had epic wins on the internet! we were pixelkings and our powerlevel was over 9000! and they shall stand proud because of our accomplishments.
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