Pixel Joint Forum: WIP: Jay

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   I need to take this to the point so that it can enter the gallery, I'm sick of my hard work being kicked out... 8 colors: J, for weekly challenge.

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Clovvach Midshipman Joined: 07 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Topic: WIP: Jay Posted: 07 January 2010 at 6:31am
	I need to take this to the point so that it can enter the gallery, I'm sick of my hard work being kicked out... 8 colors: J, for weekly challenge.
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DrunkBurger Midshipman Joined: 23 July 2008 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 66	Posted: 07 January 2010 at 7:22am
	Manupix placed this a while back. Might as well post it here for you. The main point about showing your art is to improve, the main fun about art is doing it. I understand you want to have something in your gallery, we all do, just be patient and keep working. Not all pieces have a gallery future, all are useful as learning stages. -- And my advice, Make it your work and don't think that getting it into the gallery is the highest point you can reach. To get into your piece....it looks horrible. Sorry. There is absolutely nothing i can like about this. Again, sorry for being rude. The J does not look like a J at all. The lines are jagged and not clean at all and the shading is really random too. The thing in the middle too, why is it so crudely drawn? Why the brown colors? Why not something more brightly? And if you used 8 colors...then wow, right now i can only see 4 colors of brown. I suggest looking at this. http://www.derekyu.com/?page_id=218 Good luck, and please excuse my rudeness but I just really need to bring this the hard way otherwise the message is probably not gonna be clear. Edited by DrunkBurger - 07 January 2010 at 7:23am
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Clovvach Midshipman Joined: 07 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Posted: 07 January 2010 at 3:59pm
	Thank you, thank you! Some of the times I've tried asking for help people just ignored me ^_^, it made me sort of annoyed when my work was kicked out. Anyways, it's all about getting better... that's the reason I came here right? and, LOL, for one, you are not being rude, you are being helpful, for two, "hard way"? this is the easy way for me! I may be a newbie, but I'm totally fine with constructive criticism. Anyways, I did what you said, but there is a problem, what am I going to do with the negative space now created in the center? Thank you once again.
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Clovvach Midshipman Joined: 07 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Posted: 08 January 2010 at 6:40am
	Update: Did some quick color-editing, managed to get rid of the highlight, dropped 3 colors, now I have 5 colors in this piece. This will probaly be my final version if no one rights in.
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DrunkBurger Midshipman Joined: 23 July 2008 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 66	Posted: 08 January 2010 at 6:53am
	Its still not done. Again, you're doing it to improve, not to get it done. The colors are still bad, it actually hurts my eyes alot and i suggest you look at some color pallets. Visit www.kuler.com for example. The J itself still needs so much improvement. It's placed right on the edges of the piece which is actually a really bad idea. Then the lines itself are jaggy and not round at all. It looks like you just drew a J with your mouse and thats it. You need to zoom in and clean up your lines. Then the inside of the J. What is all this mess inside? A door? or something? And what are those random squares in it? And the misplaced pixels? Try to dither it? And the background needs a filling or make the J with a transparent background. http://spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/maplestory/sheet/22051 Look at the J at the bottom. See how it's made? Now look again. See how it's really made? I suggest you re-do the whole thing and start by looking at J's in fonts and draw it first. I still do not understand how you can have a final version.
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jeremy Rear Admiral Joined: 25 November 2024 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 1704	Posted: 08 January 2010 at 7:18am
	I quite like the stylised dithering. The shape of the J's a little lumpy, some lines could be cleaned up. Is there something you want to convey by doing a J? Are there some things starting with J which you like? In that case, maybe try to incorporate something into the design (Or try to incorporate that thing into the letter, I did that and ended up with a bendy jaguar with flowers :P ) @DrunkBurger: The rudeness isn't really needed in criticism, there are nicer ways of saying things :\|
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jalonso Admiral Joined: 29 November 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13537	Posted: 08 January 2010 at 12:49pm
	This is showing a lot of pixel improvement. Try to smooth out the swing of the J. Keep going :)
	PJs FAQ <•> Sticky Reads
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Clovvach Midshipman Joined: 07 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Posted: 08 January 2010 at 4:44pm
	Ok, Drunken burger, I've seen all of the sites, none of them really prove helpful, but I'm not really aiming for a "perfect" J like that in the first place, thank you though. Jeremy, Thanks! I will clean up my lines. J does not stand for anything, but I sort of thought it would be a cool letter, a letter to represent the rarely-used, the unique. Janslo, I tried a different method for this. It makes it seem more... pixel art.. ish. and LOL, now I can say what the J is for. People to credit: Jeremy Janslo JrunkenBurger (DrunkenBurger ^_^)
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A.B. Lazer Commander Joined: 21 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Posted: 08 January 2010 at 8:02pm
	You have to put clear readable form and distinct shapes before any AA and dithering and even shading occurs. AA and dithering are just additional effects. This one has these issues: - jagged lines (it is a no go unless you intentionally, i mean INTENTIONALLY trying to make it look like a mushroom); - It is not straight (unless...) - The letter is cropped that way that it leaves some elements outside of the frame. Initial means that the letter should be one that opens a line in a book, so it would look bad on flat surface of paper. It's a challenge, after all. It is all about researching and trying the things that you wouldn't consider when paracticing on your own. Although it is better as readable letter than some pieces that already somehow got into gallery, there is no research on fonts and initials in particular evident in this piece. Edited by A.B. Lazer - 08 January 2010 at 8:07pm
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Clovvach Midshipman Joined: 07 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62	Posted: 09 January 2010 at 9:55am
	EDIT: The Jay is less jagged. Look at my earlier post.
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