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NancyGold
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Topic: Evil Skeleton Monster Head
Posted: 16 October 2017 at 10:42am

how could it be future improved/fixed?

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NancyGold
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Posted: 16 October 2017 at 10:54am

Tried to make jawbone stronger. Unsure if it really improves the character.

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NancyGold
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Posted: 16 October 2017 at 11:50am

Edited back of the head.

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Posted: 18 October 2017 at 1:25pm

Decided to refine wizard portrait as well.

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Posted: 18 October 2017 at 2:09pm

Made beard more natural

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Posted: 19 October 2017 at 12:41pm

Tried to make cheeks older:

hope it counts towards some progress.

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Posted: 21 October 2017 at 1:16pm

Attempted to make orc character less "gay"

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Posted: 27 October 2017 at 6:23pm

Tried to make player colors look like a burning aura around monster's head, instead of being cheesy light source in the corner:

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Hapiel
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Posted: 28 October 2017 at 5:28am

These portraits are great! But they are also such a distinct style that it is hard to comment on! The orcs nose seems very far from its mouth. Also its head seems tilted back but it's ears (in the new one) seem more tilted front.

The skull still has its teeth it seems? Those could perhaps be better defined. On the top above the eyebrows there is a lot of banding, you could consider looking into that.
The left (our right) eye seems tall compared to the right. and his right shoulder patch is more in his neck than on its shoulder.

I hope that helps a bit :)

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NancyGold
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Posted: 28 October 2017 at 7:02am

Originally posted by Hapiel

These portraits are great! But they are also such a distinct style that it is hard to comment on! The orcs nose seems very far from its mouth. Also its head seems tilted back but it's ears (in the new one) seem more tilted front.

The skull still has its teeth it seems? Those could perhaps be better defined. On the top above the eyebrows there is a lot of banding, you could consider looking into that.
The left (our right) eye seems tall compared to the right. and his right shoulder patch is more in his neck than on its shoulder.

I hope that helps a bit :)

Hi, Hapiel! Thanks for CC! I'll try fixing it. Regrading Orc's nose, I used Warhammer and Metzen's art for reference ( https://geekculture.co/blizzards-chris-metzen-retires-from-game-industry/ ), and they all leave some space between nose and mouth (especially warhammer orcs), so I guess that is standard, although I've drawn bigger and flatter nose, compared to say Metzen's or Warhammer orcs, so guess they can't sue me now for copyright infringement

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Posted: 28 October 2017 at 4:31pm

Ok. Tried to save the skeleton's head: removed that banding above right eye, moved left eye down and fixed shoulder pad.

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Posted: 29 October 2017 at 8:08pm

Trying to do something with rat creature portrait

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Posted: 06 November 2017 at 5:29pm

Thinking on how to make wraith portrait less retarded.

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Posted: 07 November 2017 at 7:12am

More variations.

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Hapiel
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Posted: 07 November 2017 at 11:30am

Nice experimenting! I'm a fan of number . Perhaps with a slight bit more contrasting colors on the robe, stronger highlights, it could pop out a bit more interestingly. The space around it is dark, but the robe is quite lit, which suggest to me a strong directional light, and a huge room so that there is no ambient reflection?

Also, is te purple inside the hood intended as a highlight coming from the eyes, or is it a purple colored part of the hood?

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Posted: 08 November 2017 at 11:54am

Cape was floating in the air, making it all look stupid, so I erased a chunk of the cape.

Originally posted by Hapiel

Nice experimenting! I'm a fan of number . Perhaps with a slight bit more contrasting colors on the robe, stronger highlights, it could pop out a bit more interestingly. The space around it is dark, but the robe is quite lit, which suggest to me a strong directional light, and a huge room so that there is no ambient reflection?

Thank you for suggestion. I think ambient is non-existing, because scene happens in some crypt, and light shines from the front, giving somewhat pillow-shaded feel. Guess instead of black background, crypt walls could be added.

Originally posted by Hapiel

Also, is te purple inside the hood intended as a highlight coming from the eyes, or is it a purple colored part of the hood?

It is highlighted by the eyes. Maybe it should be removed completely, the eyes ain't that bright anyway.

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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Topic: Evil Skeleton Monster Head Posted: 16 October 2017 at 10:42am
	how could it be future improved/fixed?
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 16 October 2017 at 10:54am
	Tried to make jawbone stronger. Unsure if it really improves the character.
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 16 October 2017 at 11:50am
	Edited back of the head.
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 18 October 2017 at 1:25pm
	Decided to refine wizard portrait as well.
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 18 October 2017 at 2:09pm
	Made beard more natural online gif hosting
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 19 October 2017 at 12:41pm
	Tried to make cheeks older: hope it counts towards some progress.
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 21 October 2017 at 1:16pm
	Attempted to make orc character less "gay"
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 27 October 2017 at 6:23pm
	Tried to make player colors look like a burning aura around monster's head, instead of being cheesy light source in the corner:
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 28 October 2017 at 5:28am
	These portraits are great! But they are also such a distinct style that it is hard to comment on! The orcs nose seems very far from its mouth. Also its head seems tilted back but it's ears (in the new one) seem more tilted front. The skull still has its teeth it seems? Those could perhaps be better defined. On the top above the eyebrows there is a lot of banding, you could consider looking into that. The left (our right) eye seems tall compared to the right. and his right shoulder patch is more in his neck than on its shoulder. I hope that helps a bit :)
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 28 October 2017 at 7:02am
	*Originally posted by Hapiel* These portraits are great! But they are also such a distinct style that it is hard to comment on! The orcs nose seems very far from its mouth. Also its head seems tilted back but it's ears (in the new one) seem more tilted front. The skull still has its teeth it seems? Those could perhaps be better defined. On the top above the eyebrows there is a lot of banding, you could consider looking into that. The left (our right) eye seems tall compared to the right. and his right shoulder patch is more in his neck than on its shoulder. I hope that helps a bit :) Hi, Hapiel! Thanks for CC! I'll try fixing it. Regrading Orc's nose, I used Warhammer and Metzen's art for reference ( https://geekculture.co/blizzards-chris-metzen-retires-from-game-industry/ ), and they all leave some space between nose and mouth (especially warhammer orcs), so I guess that is standard, although I've drawn bigger and flatter nose, compared to say Metzen's or Warhammer orcs, so guess they can't sue me now for copyright infringement
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 28 October 2017 at 4:31pm
	Ok. Tried to save the skeleton's head: removed that banding above right eye, moved left eye down and fixed shoulder pad.
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 29 October 2017 at 8:08pm
	Trying to do something with rat creature portrait
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 06 November 2017 at 5:29pm
	Thinking on how to make wraith portrait less retarded.
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 07 November 2017 at 7:12am
	More variations.
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 07 November 2017 at 11:30am
	Nice experimenting! I'm a fan of number . Perhaps with a slight bit more contrasting colors on the robe, stronger highlights, it could pop out a bit more interestingly. The space around it is dark, but the robe is quite lit, which suggest to me a strong directional light, and a huge room so that there is no ambient reflection? Also, is te purple inside the hood intended as a highlight coming from the eyes, or is it a purple colored part of the hood?
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NancyGold Commander Joined: 27 October 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 526	Posted: 08 November 2017 at 11:54am
	Cape was floating in the air, making it all look stupid, so I erased a chunk of the cape. *Originally posted by Hapiel* Nice experimenting! I'm a fan of number . Perhaps with a slight bit more contrasting colors on the robe, stronger highlights, it could pop out a bit more interestingly. The space around it is dark, but the robe is quite lit, which suggest to me a strong directional light, and a huge room so that there is no ambient reflection? Thank you for suggestion. I think ambient is non-existing, because scene happens in some crypt, and light shines from the front, giving somewhat pillow-shaded feel. Guess instead of black background, crypt walls could be added. *Originally posted by Hapiel* Also, is te purple inside the hood intended as a highlight coming from the eyes, or is it a purple colored part of the hood? It is highlighted by the eyes. Maybe it should be removed completely, the eyes ain't that bright anyway.
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