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Quote zacfac Replybullet Topic: Double Charisma [WIP]
    Posted: 22 December 2017 at 5:52pm
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I'm going back, to the first game I have ever made. The Game was near completion. But then I wanted to change the art style so, I did and everything got complicated.
Nothing went with anything and I got frustrated and stopped. So This time I Want to finish it, and say I have made something with my art. So please give your criticism. It's much appreciated.
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 22 December 2017 at 7:01pm
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I changed the shading. I noticed that there was some bad contrast
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 23 December 2017 at 10:29am
Hey Zarfac

What's going on with the middle guy? His eyes look like he is stoned... after long looking, I'm guessing he has a beard and smoking a cigarette? You need to look again at those arms and shoulders, his shoulders are to square and his arms, I really don't know what's going on with them or how they are positioned! and he has huge boobs? I understand you're going for big strong pecs, but it doesn't really read that way..
As for his feet, the highlight on the outside makes the feet look turned out, which would fit better for this manly character.

In the character on the left, the skin colored parts on the shirt confuse me, is that decoration or are those her hands? Why are there no hands at the end of her arms? And what's the ting on top of his/her head?

I hope my thoughts help you further!
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 23 December 2017 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by Hapiel

His eyes look like he is stoned... after long looking, I'm guessing he has a beard and smoking a cigarette?


Okay, I got rid of the cigarette. It was having some perspective issues as well
Originally posted by Hapiel

You need to look again at those arms and shoulders, his shoulders are to square and his arms, I really don't know what's going on with them or how they are positioned! and he has huge boobs? I understand you're going for big strong pecs, but it doesn't really read that way


Ok fixed his chubby man boobs
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In the character on the left, the skin colored parts on the shirt confuse me, is that decoration or are those her hands? Why are there no hands at the end of her arms? And what's the ting on top of his/her head?I hope my thoughts help you further!



They are his hands. I didn't know if they needed an outline. so I fixed it
As for his hair, it's a mohawk. I fixed it for better readability.

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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 24 December 2017 at 8:21am
If those are his hands, then what is on his back? his wings?
The shading under the belly now made the guy fat, if that's what you wanted then well done :)
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Quote king_bobston Replybullet Posted: 24 December 2017 at 12:19pm
heyo zacfac, your edit improved it a lot!

I took the liberty to make an edit myself, I experimented with some parts without finding a good solution myself and didn't want to spend too much time with it so take some of it with more than a grain of salt.

First guy:
I think the mohawk should be more clear, maybe it's to wide and short right now.
I'm mostly confused about the things on the sides of his arm as well, I'm assuming it's some cloth that goes behind his back? But I have no idea what it would be.
There's some avoidable banding on the arms and overall they can be made more clear to avoid confusion.

Second guy:
There was too little contrast in the skin tones so I pushed that a bit, not sure about the result though :/
I'm assuming he's supposed to be buff based on your fist version, so define his torso more. There's also some avoidable banding on his arms, when I edited them I went ahead of myself and made them buffer as well .
The blue beard(?) is a bit confusing, maybe making the area bigger makes it more clear but I've my doubts and didn't try it so dunno.

Third girl:
The biggest issue I see is that I didn't recognise the headphones at first, largely because of the contrast. I tried to make them more clear but ran out of patience myself..
There's also a bit avoidable banding with the highlights and arms of the jacket but it's not as important as fixing the banding with the other two sprites.

I like this sprite style but there's quite some readability issues. In that size you often have to carefully watch out not to add too strong banding or too much details as they often compromise the readability. I would like to see more of these sprites!
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 28 December 2017 at 6:03pm

Ok, I hope I cleared some things up.
They aren't wings, It is a jacket :P
I'm slowly adding new ones, but it's a little hard recalling from memory :P
I deleted the original file years ago and I can't seem to find any Photos online. so old sketches and Pure memory it is :P
But I should have some decent tiles done soon so, please. be harsh because I have never done tiles :P
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 29 December 2017 at 11:35pm

Ok, so here is a color/Hue change. I changed and got rid of things that were causing problems.
I also added three new sprites. I probably need to change some hues and colors, but I like them so far. Tell what you think
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2017 at 4:18am
Are the bottom one the new ones? I like the top ones better.. The added contrast suggests borders which should be near invisible at this scale!

The new characters are fine, just the girl with the big large fringe, perhaps you can make that without using black in her bright colored hair.

Mohawk guy still confuses me, why are his hands not in the sleeves of the jackets? and in the pic on the right without jacket, is he flexing? high shoulders and high elbows, it seems to me.
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 30 December 2017 at 8:25pm
Okay. I wanted to go for a more realistic style
I was Looking for References, and I found eastward I loved the style so I tried something new a little bit bigger then I can add detail.
This is reference

Here is what I got.
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 21 January 2018 at 8:19pm
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Ok fixed them hope you like them
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 22 January 2018 at 1:23am
This is much nicer, well done! Perhaps the legs of the manly guy top right could go outwards instead of inwards.  There might be solutions to prevent the black inner outlines, especially on the top right guy, they clutter up the rest. Lower right girl suffers most from banding, check the Pixel Art Tutorial on this forum to find what that's all about.

This is going much in the right direction!!!
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 22 January 2018 at 6:26pm
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Ok, I fixed the issues that you pointed out. then made there Fall clothing, as well. tell me what you think about them
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Quote zacfac Replybullet Posted: 26 January 2018 at 8:06am
Ok made all the angles to the sprites, and did my good old spin test to make sure they're smooth.



also here is frame by frame to pick apart


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