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Quote jalonso Replybullet Topic: CD Cover Art
    Posted: 14 April 2007 at 2:03pm
This is the first public draft for a CD cover art for a band. I've been playing for a few weeks to get to this point. This is the front cover, the spine and the back cover. Its dark so that the copy and title stand out. Its Megaman inspired. The sprite is a guy in a ski mask, not a ninja.
The inside of the CD case will be the same scene but on fire and destroyed, very red. anyhoo...




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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2007 at 3:10pm
looks nice thus far. :) I wanna see the firey one.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2007 at 4:44pm
Awesome stuff jal, can't wait for the flame one. I don't have any crits really, you could add another tone to buffer the highlight i guess, if you're not working under any restrictions. Does make it feel more retro though. Anyway, keep it up! :D

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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2007 at 6:02pm
oh cool. a ninja ;)
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Quote Twizzler Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2007 at 9:23pm
isn't it too small for a case?  are you actually gonna use it or is it for fun?
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2007 at 9:33pm
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isn't it too small for a case?


it's called resizing...

Originally posted by Twizzler

isn't it too small for a case?


This is the first public draft for a CD cover art for a band.
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Quote AdrianJensen Replybullet Posted: 14 April 2007 at 10:20pm
loving this.
i want to see the fire one :o
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 1:45am
Oh my god man.. I mean I can see some rough areas in the draft ;), but it already looks AWESOME..
I remember we discussed a possible collab, but looking at it I'm not even sure if I can keep up with your skill and what you already have here :D Still if you think I can help out with something let me know.
 
No crits really, except for I'd wish for a little splash of colour? but that can be reserved for the band logo and such
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 6:51am
Yes, many rough areas still. The specs for this is that it remain retro looking and 'pixelly' since its for printing on paper not screen viewing. That's why its sized oddly. It will be scaled to double pixels in final form. As far as coloring I don't have a limit but less colors emphasizes the retro look, for this reason I chose this windows95 color theme.

The figure and building he's standing on is from the start screen from megaman which is the only request made of me by the band.


@Mykola, I will be hitting you up for help and guidance with the little stuff that goes inside, the covers too.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:21am
ahhh, so like an updated megaman style, then?

i dont like his stance too much...  it looks like he is a woman or really gay.  he's all like "hey, look at my ding-a-ling. plz, ty" 
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:28am
 How should the pose be then...

does look gay <--- (OMGFossily)
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Quote Feron Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:29am
which band, are they famous/going to be famous?

nice piece - looking forward to the final product.
hmmmm.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:37am
take the crotch back a few pixels and it should fix it a bunch
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:41am
The Protomen, not famous or big but touring and working hard, I suppose.
article here.

I've made CD art before but never in pixels so I'm helping them out.
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:49am
No way man - keep the gay pose lol... I think it's really funny.. he looks like a Michael Jackson wannabe in a ski mask lol :)
I'm serious don't change it
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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 11:15am
Their genre : Other/Other/Other
How delightful.

Yeah, keep the pose. ;)
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 11:29am
if you listened to their stuff you know they really defy genres (amongst other things LOL) :D
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Quote Twizzler Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:00pm
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Originally posted by Ensellitis

Originally posted by Twizzler

isn't it too small for a case?


it's called resizing...
 
you can't resize pixel art...
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:19pm
A bit of an update :)



@Twizzler, you can't resize for on on-screen viewing. This is for printing on paper. I am working at 72dpi. Once complete I resize by interpolation the image to the desired size at 300dpi using the all important 'nearest neighbor' feature. I've done it before, its how you print pixelart btw. I have pixelart in the airports of Jamaica at 6 feet across in size and its 100% pixelly goodness ;)
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:19pm
You can't resize pixel art????
I know it's not very nice of a 22 yr old to make a joke of a teenager but man really did you even think for a second when you said that?
 
I hope I don't have to give you hundreds of examples of real life uses of resized (increased) pixel art.
hopefully you're smart enough to figure out that you're wrong on your own.
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:21pm
@jal a splash of color is all I wanted :) gorgeous
 
also if you maintain an integer increase ratio, you CAN increase PA for on screen viewing losslessly. Losslessly as in with 0% interpolation, and you can always get back to the original.
 
and PA in the airports of JAMAICA?? photos pls!!!!!!


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 3:39pm
Yes, but only in units of 2. For print you can go anywhere.

@Myk, About the airport signs. Really boring actually, some resorts in Jamaica in iso, not in my usual style, more simple stuff like this CD art.
But BIG!!!
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by Twizzler

you can't resize pixel art...


um, ok, first time i ever heard of that... 



you must be right, you have been doing this waaaaaay longer than i have...  its not like i know anything about pixel art at all. 
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Quote AdrianJensen Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 4:26pm
i love the new blue!
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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 5:30pm
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i love the new blue!


It does make the picture way more interesting :)
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Quote Twizzler Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 5:41pm
jeez thx.  lets have a bash fest on a my comment...  I thought it would get all messed up.  it gets messed up in photoshop when it gets resized so I figured it would get messed up on paper...
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 7:49pm
Originally posted by Ensellitis

[QUOTE=Twizzler]
you can't resize pixel art...you must be right, you have been doing this waaaaaay longer than i have...  its not like i know anything about pixel art at all. 


I said unless its in increments of 2x I'm talking about any increment whatsoever.

@Twizzler, when you resize in Photoshop under 'new size' YOU MUST check 'nearest neighbor' for sharp pixels, the others (bilinear, smooth and bicubic) will distort the pixels.

Not bashing just sharing info.

EDIT: The topic is about ME, k, k.


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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2007 at 1:47am
I demand photos of BIG jamaican airport pixelart signs, jal.
Don't even try to tell me you don't have none :D
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2007 at 9:49am
Hahaha... now he looks like a madonna wannabe guy or something....
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2007 at 6:57pm
I hope your printer is good.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2007 at 7:11pm
Because it can go anywhere and because I have to deal with a fiery descrustion version of the same scene;

100% pixel goodness

or Hybrid PA

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Quote halfDemon Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2007 at 8:15pm
100% because pixel art is always sexier when it's pure bred.
Every pixel counts, even the dead ones.
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 2:32am
I actually like the hybrid version, because the purple color adds some funky ambience (and that's what matters to me ultimately, it looks good).
 
The glow on the spotlight in the hybrid vesion is something I'd definitely get rid of. I really am not fond of effects like that.
 
in other words, purple ambience = good, white glow = bad. :D
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 5:07am
The feedback from the band is:
"The wash on the image seems to imply that something is looming. I like the idea of that."

I will begin throwing the inside covers together while this matter resolves itself. I like 100% pixelly but this does seem like a Hybrid PA project. Hybrid will make the inside fires way easier to illustrate...back to the tablet ;)
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 5:57am
that's why I like gradients myself, they're a great way to tranceive all sorts of ambient lighting/atmosphere..
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Quote jdarling Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:05am
I like the straight up version myself.  The purple seems out of place in the scene with all of the blues and grays.  Since you said that there is to be a version with the buildings on fire, maybe have the highlight in red or yellow to signify an explosion off-screen some place that the viewer can't see yet.
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 6:09am
@jdarling: if it'd be a standalone scene it'd be better off 100% pixle without the purple.
 
but as a CD cover, it's better off with the purple.
I've seen what the group asked for stylewise, and believe me the purple is really hepling the style they want.


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Quote Feron Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 9:45am
you lose some of the retro feel with the purple.
hmmmm.
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 10:31am
I agree with the spiteful one.
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 12:59pm
I personally think neon purple actually adds to the retro/80's feel.
 
I'm serious it blends in really good with the picture and gives it that ambience.
 
I'm not that keen on the photoshopped spotlight, hope jal will tank it :D
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Quote Feron Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 2:23pm
yeah cos they had photoshop gradients in the 80's....
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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 4:47pm
I felt the purple/pink was extremely out of place, with no real explanation for it being there... its just there, and distracting.

I do however love the green windows and blue tones in the shadow
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 17 April 2007 at 4:59pm
Great feedback guys, thx.
The band really likes the mood of the gradients. They seem to think that it has the type of lighting seen in a gig. It is first and foremost about the band and its music. The pixelart is I'm afraid not even top3. I will show where the song titles, logo, UPC sysmbol and other stuff goes. All these will be NPA so the gradient is a buffer that ties the BG to the sh*t covering my pixels, lol

@setz, the interior of the CD jewel case will be the same scene in red/magenta/purple. A destruction of this scene with only the Megaman building left standing. That's why I thought the magenta gradient overlay would help with the 'storyline' continuity.
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 19 April 2007 at 7:25pm
Band supplied the text and where it goes. I think this will not be PA but vectors so I think the gradient is a better fit.



@ Myk, light glow tanked ;)


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Quote jdarling Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 6:05am
Jalonso, is that the final font/text size and color?  If so, you might want to point out that its very difficult to read when you have color issues or are partially blind :).  Specifically, the song titles and the text below.  Actually, I can't even read the text below and had to struggle with the song titles.

Here is what I think I am reading:
1...Hope Rides Stallone
2...Powerfuneral2!!!!!
3...Unrest in the house of bits
4...8Bit Will of one (or is that a 6?)
5...Venge-Dance?
6...The Stand 1983 (this makes me think its an 8 above, and The looks like lhe)
7...Sons of Fate (the S's are hard)
8...Due Appeggitron 9000

As I said, I can't read anything from there down.

Just my two cents, but I love your scene as a whole and can't wait to see the insides :)

 - Jeremy
Depending on where they are going to sell the CD, you might also want to mock it with the barcode on the right.  There are some retailers that will put it there weather you want it there or not.
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Quote Varock Shade Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 6:38am
Jal, do they have a website or myspace where i can listen their music..?  and i would change the text a bit more fitting to the bg, and the gradient on the right side less visible... also, reading the font can be quite a hard task... maybe make them just a bit easier to read..?
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Quote Mykola Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 9:29am
jal this text is not the final right?? really can't read the back cover. Well I can but it's not really pleasing to the eye :D
 
I also am not fond of the textual composition on the back right now.. it can be made far more interesting just by playing with font sizes and text placement..
 
and the fg logo really needs more pizazz.. no need to change the linework just give it a proper finish
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 7:40pm
My bad. That is just FPO (for positioning only) text and logos. I will have nothing to do with laying that out. Its just shown here so that when y'all c+c you know what areas will be covered with NPA items. Also so that I don't sweat the pixels in these areas too much...deadlines 9.9. The graphic guy doing that will wait to see the inside art so that it all seems together.

@Varock, links are somewhere higher up on this thread.

So this is the very first step for the inside of the CD case. Just shifted hues and then tweaked manually a bit to keep some blue overcast. It will most likey not end up this way as every update these reds will change till you all say its coo. The yellow lines are kinda where I see the main explosion happening, coming from the lit windows on the front. The rest I imagine on fire or in states of destruction with lots of metal, rebar (sp.) and twisted metals...
...think last scene in Fight Club when Tyler is blowing up buildings from where he is.
Should I destroy every other building but the Megaman one?...hmmm


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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 8:17pm
Before i sleep i must say, this looks so classy.
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Quote Cliffo Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 8:35pm
Great idea, pixel art for a cd cover, i was thinking this for my solo project a few weeks ago. Awesome design too, looking forward to seeing your final approach .
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