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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Reposted this with the most recent version because the old post was deleted because of err... complications.
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kankki
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 March 2005 Location: Finland Online Status: Offline Posts: 195 |
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It is nice tough, but the teethies need to get a little darker outline... I think
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Well, duuuh, I can eat spam if I have to!
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Will do, do you mean when the teeth joins to the skull, or when thye join each other, or both?
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sedgemonkey
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Yeah, the teeth are a bit faded, but I don't think you should go too dark on em. When are you going to go in on the scythe? |
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Lawrence
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 481 |
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Ah, I was making a C+C post in the other topic but just as I tried posting it, the topic was deleted and I lost it! Well..
I think you should make the shadow at the top of his skull ultra dark, much darker than the side of his face. The side of his face should be recieving light from the surrounding area, whereas at the top of his skull, light would only be reflecting off the black hood, and thus the area should be quite dark. ![]() As you can see in the original logo, the top is technically darker than the side. Also, the blue lines in the clothes are meant to just be line-art in the original, but in yours, it looks like there are blue light source in front of him. I reckon you should make the blue lines look more like line-art by lightening them and making them thinner. Either that or you could shade in parts of his skull with blue and go along with the blue light idea. |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Sedge : I'll try darkening them a bit, and I'm gonna do the scythe next, and get it over with. Edited by Xero |
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PixelSnader
Commander ![]() ![]() Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194 |
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i guess i'll repost this then: allso i'd like to say that the teeth indeed need some more separation, maily form eacother. you should use a pretty dark color between the upper and lower teeth, and a lightish colour in between the individuals oh, compliments on hte eye'i see you used the colours better now =) now do the same to where the hoodie meets the skull |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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I think im gonna redo the hood and skull anyways Edited by Xero |
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kankki
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 March 2005 Location: Finland Online Status: Offline Posts: 195 |
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Originally posted by Xero Sedge : I'll try darkening them a bit, and I'm gonna do the scythe next, and get it over with. Ah, good Xero! Looks better now! For ME! ![]() Edited by kankki |
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Well, duuuh, I can eat spam if I have to!
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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More edits.. changed the eyes even more for snader, and did the teeth in one.. (the left one) is that towards what you meant snader?
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zachriel
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 March 2005 Location: Sweden Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Ok,
I'm not good enough to crit a piece like this properly (means you're
way ahead of me), but there's just one thing I'd like to say. With your
last update I think you ruined the teeth a bit, I believe you made the
gap between the upper and lower teeth too big.
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Oh o.O so someone thinks it needs to be big, and someone thinks small... damn >.> Anyone else got an opinion? Cause right now its 1-1 :P |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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which hood looks best? The last 2 are just smalle dits of the 2nd one, and the 1st one is the current one.. I'd really like everyones opinion.. and some crits on whichever one you think is best :P Aswell as crits on the skull.. cause thats mainly what im working with at the moment. |
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Monstara
Commander ![]() Joined: 01 July 2005 Location: Bulgaria Online Status: Offline Posts: 179 |
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Number 3 IMO, cause the shading is the smoothest and creates the most volume.
Also, it being smooth, this fabric *has* to be smooth so this shading also fits the material the best. |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Another choice :D Ok, 8 this time, the top 4 are the same as the 4 i posted before, but the hoods been fixed a bit, and the bottom 4 have edits on the skull... (blue background so you can see it easier since its so dark)
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zachriel
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 March 2005 Location: Sweden Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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As
for the top four I'd say.. uhm.. none, 'cause I think the outline of
the hood should be a bit brighter where the highlight hits the hood.. I
mean to the left of the small pointy thing. The fourth one is the
closest to a great hood, because it has a tiny folding for the pointy
thing.
I can't see no particular change of the four bottoms ones so I better be quiet about that ![]() (excuse my wierd language but I haven't been to school for a few months so I can't write properly in my own language, and absolutely not in english..) Edited by zachriel |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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The line seperating the skull and hood is ALOT smoother in the 4 bottom ones, then in the top 4
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Rifts
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 355 |
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i would say bottem right, and for the teath i think the outline should b
slightly darker, not bigger |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Will do rifts, any other crits?
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1ucas
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 174 |
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The skull is still shaded terribly. It has no depth to it since the start, and all you did so far was add more colors to it.
What did you do with all the crits you got last time? |
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PixelSnader
Commander ![]() ![]() Not a troll! Joined: 05 June 2014 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3194 |
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is it sposed to look 3d then? in that case start by adding LOTS more contrast, you dont have to use as much colours though.. youre not gonna get it real smooth anyways, the most important is to get the feel fos shading i think thats why most people dont shade: therye afraid to make mistakes. dont be, they make you learn more then 100 people telling you to add contrast =D |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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1ucas - I edited the reaper last time for every crit that was made, EXCEPT the one on the skull cause i wanted someone to ellaborate a bit more on it. Maybe you could? It doesn't help to say 'it has no depth' and not tell me how to add depth. thats just not proper criticism.
snader - Im guessing you mean add contrast to the skull right? Referring to 1ucas' post? I'll try that, and thanks. EDIT - Latest edit... gonna start on the scythe now, which i've already attempted a couple of times, and not done very well with >.> Problems not the wood, its the metal, I cant get it too look right... ![]() Edited by Xero |
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zachriel
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 March 2005 Location: Sweden Online Status: Offline Posts: 51 |
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Originally posted by Lawrence I think you should make the shadow at the top of his skull ultra dark, much darker than the side of his face. The side of his face should be recieving light from the surrounding area, whereas at the top of his skull, light would only be reflecting off the black hood, and thus the area should be quite dark. ![]() As you can see in the original logo, the top is technically darker than the side. This is a very good crit about what to do with the skull. As it is now you've shaded the sides exactly like you did on the top which results in a very flat look. If you were to change the shading on the sides (remove a few colors here and there, make some fields thinner) but to keep the top exactly like it is, I think you would see a positive difference. |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Ok, ill fix that up.. in mine the lightsource is moe from the top left, not the top, so im not gonna thin out the left side as much as the right. Edited by Xero |
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kiwidesign
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 June 2005 Location: Italy Online Status: Offline Posts: 95 |
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i love this little reaper :)
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"She doesn't quite chop his head off. She makes a Pez dispenser out of him"
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Aint he cute? *pokes it*
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Bear
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 April 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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way too much pillow shading, you could have gone for the same effect probly with less colors and some dithering
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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>.> Maybe you could actually help by telling me which areas are pillowed, and how you think i should have done them? See.. thats PROPER criticism Edited by Xero |
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Ensellitis
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099 |
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Com'on, you asked for criticism, and even if you don't get what they
mean, don't get an attitude about it, that last post could have been
better improved by simply asking "Which areas are to pillowed, and
should I redo them?" It seems to me, and I may be wrong, that you
are asking for the criticism, but then you are taking it as an insult
towards you... I know I may be wrong, but my main poiunt is let's
be civil, I have been a member of to many forums that are now gone
because people couldn't just get along. Remember, you can't get a
tone of how the person is talking when they actually are typing.
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross. |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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*Shrug* I just don't like people that give basically useless criticism. Sorry...
Its like posting on something with 15 colours and saying '1 of the colours doesn't suite it' without saying which, or which colour you think would be better for it. Edited by Xero |
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Ensellitis
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099 |
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Understandable, but wouldn't it be better to ask them instead of yelling at them?
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross. |
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Xero
Midshipman ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 82 |
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Your saying what he said wasn't rude? *shrug* |
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ryan-gfx
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 244 |
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Well... I dont know about you guys, but I'm getting pretty sick of
seeing this same thread popping up everywhere. Xero, you've gotten
crits, you've barely used them, and this thread will keep going on and
eventually turn into a flamewar because you wont cooperate. I'm sick of
seeing this image, and I'm sick of seeing reapers for that matter. So
just let it go and move on before the thread gets moved to the mods
forum again.
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