Pixel Joint Forum: Dean Razorback WIP

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fthmdg
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Topic: Dean Razorback WIP
Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:40pm

references: http://www.bedrockmusic.co.uk/change/images/razorback%20shards%20large.bmp
http://www.theobsession.net/images/razorbruno2.jpg

what'dya think?'
C&C please

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Edited by fthmdg - 07 September 2007 at 8:02pm

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Blueberry_pie
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 10:51pm

Don't try to AA when you have a black outline... It only makes everything look blurry, not smooth.

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atei
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Posted: 06 September 2007 at 11:20pm

There's really no depth to it at all which I think is bothering me. The fret board doesn't seem too bad itself but I don't like the head or body of it.

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Aleiav
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Posted: 07 September 2007 at 12:04am

Nice lineart thus far. Pick a lightsource and start shading!

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fthmdg
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Posted: 07 September 2007 at 8:03pm

updated again.
i shaded the outside edges
fixed the black outline
and redid the AA
=]

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Corpus
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 3:28am

I don't understand your lighting. It's inconsistent. Where is the light source meant to be?

Also, why is there an outline around the inside of the body? Is there meant to be a black line there, actually as a part of the guitar's design? Otherwise, it shouldn't be there and destroys the effect of the lighting.

Either that or you'd have to be going for a comic-style cel-shaded sort of thing, but you're not doing that since the black lines don't extend out along the edges of the embossed area.

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fthmdg
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:51am

Originally posted by Corpus

I don't understand your lighting. It's inconsistent. Where is the light source meant to be?

Also, why is there an outline around the inside of the body? Is there meant to be a black line there, actually as a part of the guitar's design? Otherwise, it shouldn't be there and destroys the effect of the lighting.

Either that or you'd have to be going for a comic-style cel-shaded sort of thing, but you're not doing that since the black lines don't extend out along the edges of the embossed area.

the black outline on the inside is meant to be there, yes
and as far as the shading on the outside i used this
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/3/6/392036.jpg

as my main reference for it.. so i think its pretty good.. there's a few parts that i need to fix but the shading i got from that. other than that i havent really shaded anything.. just the edges

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Hapiel
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 10:19am

you didnt use exactly the same light, and that makes your version weird, and I dont think this thing has a very good light source as well..

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fthmdg
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 4:53pm

Originally posted by Lollige

you didnt use exactly the same light, and that makes your version weird, and I dont think this thing has a very good light source as well..

well could you tell me where i need to improve//fix it then?

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Larwick
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Posted: 08 September 2007 at 6:58pm

Don't AA onto a white background, make the background a neutral colour for now (don't AA to it) and work on your shading. It'll be much easier to do so on a neutral background. :)

GOod luckle.

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WIP (Work In Progress)
Pixel Joint Forum : Pixel Art : WIP (Work In Progress)

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fthmdg Commander Joined: 16 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 100	Topic: Dean Razorback WIP Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:40pm
	1 2 3 4 references: http://www.bedrockmusic.co.uk/change/images/razorback%20shards%20large.bmp http://www.theobsession.net/images/razorbruno2.jpg what'dya think?' C&C please Latest Update:: Edited by fthmdg - 07 September 2007 at 8:02pm
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Blueberry_pie Rear Admiral Joined: 24 July 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2176	Posted: 06 September 2007 at 10:51pm
	Don't try to AA when you have a black outline... It only makes everything look blurry, not smooth.
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atei Seaman Joined: 25 December 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6	Posted: 06 September 2007 at 11:20pm
	There's really no depth to it at all which I think is bothering me. The fret board doesn't seem too bad itself but I don't like the head or body of it.
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Aleiav Commander Joined: 08 April 2016 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2380	Posted: 07 September 2007 at 12:04am
	Nice lineart thus far. Pick a lightsource and start shading!
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fthmdg Commander Joined: 16 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 100	Posted: 07 September 2007 at 8:03pm
	updated again. i shaded the outside edges fixed the black outline and redid the AA =]
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Corpus Seaman Joined: 29 August 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 21	Posted: 08 September 2007 at 3:28am
	I don't understand your lighting. It's inconsistent. Where is the light source meant to be? Also, why is there an outline around the inside of the body? Is there meant to be a black line there, actually as a part of the guitar's design? Otherwise, it shouldn't be there and destroys the effect of the lighting. Either that or you'd have to be going for a comic-style cel-shaded sort of thing, but you're not doing that since the black lines don't extend out along the edges of the embossed area.
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fthmdg Commander Joined: 16 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 100	Posted: 08 September 2007 at 9:51am
	*Originally posted by Corpus* I don't understand your lighting. It's inconsistent. Where is the light source meant to be? Also, why is there an outline around the inside of the body? Is there meant to be a black line there, actually as a part of the guitar's design? Otherwise, it shouldn't be there and destroys the effect of the lighting. Either that or you'd have to be going for a comic-style cel-shaded sort of thing, but you're not doing that since the black lines don't extend out along the edges of the embossed area. the black outline on the inside is meant to be there, yes and as far as the shading on the outside i used this http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/0/3/6/392036.jpg as my main reference for it.. so i think its pretty good.. there's a few parts that i need to fix but the shading i got from that. other than that i havent really shaded anything.. just the edges
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 08 September 2007 at 10:19am
	you didnt use exactly the same light, and that makes your version weird, and I dont think this thing has a very good light source as well..
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fthmdg Commander Joined: 16 August 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 100	Posted: 08 September 2007 at 4:53pm
	*Originally posted by Lollige* you didnt use exactly the same light, and that makes your version weird, and I dont think this thing has a very good light source as well.. well could you tell me where i need to improve//fix it then?
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Larwick Commander Joined: 18 July 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4015	Posted: 08 September 2007 at 6:58pm
	Don't AA onto a white background, make the background a neutral colour for now (don't AA to it) and work on your shading. It'll be much easier to do so on a neutral background. :) GOod luckle.

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