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MashPotato
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Ai, it feels like so long since I've pixelled anything... anyway, I tried to break out of my slump today with the beginnings of a darker take on the Queen of Hearts from a deck of cards
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Metaru
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the only suggestion I could figure for this, Mrs Potato, is to start working on it. Your works never cease to amaze me, and can't wait to see how this one develops as well.
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I ate leel's babies
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jalonso
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Because it may make sense, although it may not be your style/sensibility.
Queens of Hearts by definition are slightly 'used' therefore I recommend either big hips or saggy/banana boobs. |
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MashPotato
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Metaru: Thanks
![]() Jalonso: ah, it was precisely for these types of general concept suggestions that I posted at this stage--thanks! ![]() |
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Doomcreator0
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That's really good, though I would really love to see some coloring going on
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leel
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hahah banana boobs XD
I'm excited to see how this goes :) (useless post) |
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jalonso
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Not older, used.
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MashPotato
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Thanks for the encouragement
![]() And yes, "older" isn't exactly what I meant... what I was picturing was a woman, who refuses to age gracefully--still dresses in juvenile trappings, wearing too much makeup, clinging desperately to a shallow definition of youth... hard to describe (and now I sound so pretentious, too! ![]() But anyways, here is an update, hopefully I'm getting some of what I described across, though there's still a long ways to go in terms of defining the features. I'm kind of playing the colours by ear, so they're definitely not set in stone... I think I'm getting a little too close to my avatar for my liking! ![]() ![]() |
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jalonso
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Oh the eyeball is awesome.
Is your pixel BG in dolling? Are you worshiped in the doller universe? |
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MashPotato
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Haha, thanks! But no, I'm not a doller, I only found out relatively recently what a doll even was
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jalonso
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Yet another reason why you are sooooo cool :D
I was really wanting you to enter the car challenge from last week and said so in the thread. Someday I'd love to see you try some 'boy-centric' pixel. i.e. car, truck, train, spaceship, etc. Your take on something like this with your unique touch is sure to be original, unique and most likely surprising to the boyz. |
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EnsilZah
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I think the eye sort of looks tacked on, probably because the hair is going so far behind it.
Love your stuffs by the way. =) |
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MashPotato
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EnsilZah: thank you, that is indeed the case
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InnerRayg
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I think perhaps changing the angle of the bottom lashes a little, and removing one of them, would be nice.
It's not a big problem, they just seem a bit unnatural compared to the top ones. I love the color choices though, very nice work. |
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MashPotato
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Thanks, and I will play around with the eyelashes
![]() Here's an update, it's starting to take shape ![]() ![]() |
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jalonso
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OffT: nice site Mash. The game won't play on a Mac
![]() Oddly enough I thought you were Italian and in Italy. So much I've learned about you this week (stalker ![]() OnT: Would some hair, like one strand over the eye help the area blend? Something about this dress seems too pretty. It must be me. I always see the queen of hearts as a bitter and mean dark hearted person at the core. A true queen of hearts would never say it, nor show it, she wouldn't need to. Pixel on. |
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MashPotato
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On-topic: I tried adding a hair strand before, but I worried that it would take away the impact of the eye... however, it's worth trying out again, as the shape of the hair is giving me trouble
![]() ![]() Off-topic: From Italy, hm? ![]() I think you can play the game on a Mac if you download a version of AGS, but I'm not sure how that works... in any case, don't worry, with that screenshot, you've seen half the game ![]() |
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MashPotato
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 February 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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After taking a break with my flying cow, I'm back to this
![]() Update: I haven't really done anything to the hair yet, I'm probably going to leave that for last (procrastination ![]() ![]() EDIT: small update (these background colours aren't permanent, btw) ![]() EDIT #2: I see her left arm is too short compared to her right, will fix. Edited by MashPotato - 06 October 2007 at 8:12pm |
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MashPotato
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jalonso
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Oh the dress is great. I did like the black corset idea better tho.
The heart will need lots of highlighting or a more purplish tone as it doesn't stand out much. Something about the lacy part on the skirt being so close to the fleshtones seems weird, maybe more of the greens you already have in there : / Your decisions are already correct so it will all look amazing but figured I'd nitpick it for you ; ) |
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eghost
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Must say it's an awesome piece... The bright white pixels on the skirting kinda throw me...specifically the ones on our right near the red skirt edge...But aside from that everything looks really tight... |
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jalonso
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Those are tears in the pink frabric.
Yes, Mash the lace colors are wrong and too blue/white. |
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MashPotato
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 February 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 237 |
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Thanks guys! I see what you mean about the lace, I will try to sort that out
![]() ![]() I rather liked the black corset too, but it seemed not girlish enough and I thought it would be a little jarring to have a large black area in the middle of the picture. Agreed on the heart ![]() |
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jalonso
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Well you could have her hair black in the ends and greyer at the roots with some greenish-blond in the middle so as to balance a black corset and give you the needed yellow to rework the lace.
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MashPotato
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I'll be upfront with you Jal: I'm not going to change the bodice back to the black one
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jalonso
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Originally posted by jalonso ...Your decisions are already correct so it will all look amazing... I wasn't ordering or demanding nothing ![]() ![]() |
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MashPotato
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Originally posted by jalonso Originally posted by jalonso ...Your decisions are already correct so it will all look amazing... I wasn't ordering or demanding nothing ![]() ![]() Aw, I didn't mean to make it sound like I took it that way ![]() |
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M.E.
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Hi MashPotato,
GREAT stuff! The only thing that I can critize on this moment was allready mentioned. The readability of the heart is a bit difficult. A bit more red / highlight as previous suggested by Jal might do the trick. Maybe a bit more highlight on the front arm to make it better visible? It blends in too much with the rest at the moment. Hope this helps. Best regards from M.E. |
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KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art
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InnerRayg
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What's going on with the red dot on her cheek?
I also find the face to be quite a bit subdued...it's just a bit weird, since I had to search for the nose. The other parts are looking great. |
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MashPotato
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Thanks ME and Inner
![]() Unfortunately I'll be away from my computer for the next couple of days so I can't work on this, but I will try to address those issues when I get back (I agree that the arm is a little difficult to read). Btw, the red dot is supposed to be badly-applied rouge ![]() In the meantime, here is the latest version. I hope I fixed the lace problem, and I removed the brooch for the sake of readability. Please keep the crits coming ![]() ![]() Edited by MashPotato - 09 October 2007 at 2:34pm |
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eghost
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The lace looks perfect now...And I really like the direction you're going with the hair...
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MashPotato
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Thanks eghost
![]() I finally got a chance to get back to this... there may not seem to be too many substantial changes, but the shadows were deepened a lot (hopefully improving the contrast a bit), the eye was shifted down, and the border was expanded. It's pretty much just the crown and hair left, with a little touching up of the heart and general tweaking ![]() ![]() |
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jalonso
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The lace is perfect now.The hair color choice is spot-on. Now that your colors have shifted the heart is not wrong and I see what you see with the veins still attached, as in ripped off. However, they being this thick, this long may lead to comments about the blood dripping. That made no sense, did it :(
Should the pupil not be 1px to the right and 1px down so that her stare is focused on the heart? Question: Why is she so clean of blood? Was the heart handed to her very delicately? |
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MashPotato
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Thanks Jalonso
![]() Answer: Ask, and ye shall receive... heheh, I was actually leaving that for the end, the finishing touch of a delicate operation ![]() I tried moving the pupil like you suggested, and while she did look more directly at the heart, I think I prefer it this way... the unfocused glazed look is something that seems appropriate here ![]() I'm trying to make my final push and finish this today/tomorrow, so any suggestions are very welcome as I work on the hair (painful!). Thanks! ![]() |
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jalonso
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Originally posted by MashPotato T... do you mean that the arteries will be mistaken for blood? Yes, it could be taken that way. |
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MashPotato
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Hmm,not sure what I can do about that... though I can try to take the colour of the veins on the actual heart and apply it to the big arteries a bit... I'll give it a try
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jalonso
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Mind you I understand what they are and its great. I'm just thining about them thar useless comments you might get once its on the gallery from the 'Skulls' of PJ.
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MashPotato
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Much appreciated, Jal
![]() Here's an update; not a heck of a lot of change, but I figured I'd put this up for critique while I sleep... ![]() |
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MashPotato
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For those interested, I've finished this and it has been submitted
![]() Thanks for the help, all! Here is a WIP animation of what seems like a long time but was actually only two weeks, and I couldn't work on it for 5 of those days so that's pretty fast for me... I'll stop babbling now ![]() ![]() |
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