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inkspot
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Topic: industry
Posted: 23 August 2005 at 10:41am

Hello.

Look what I found in my archives! I should finish this.

I know the chimney needs to be re-done because it has no actual shading on it.

But the place looks a bit messy, I still want to preserve the dirtiness of the old site but it looks a bit... Maybe I overreacted or overpixeled it?

Sorry for the bmp though, but its the only suitable format what I trust!

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jegHegy
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 11:13am

nice work, although it really needs more contrast. otherwise the details look nice.

also, use PNG. lossless and small.

http://jeghegy.deviantart.com/

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inkspot
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 11:36am

Lossless??? No way!

It usually smashes up the colours and its insecure.

But as for contrast, I hate contrast :D Foggy mornings rule!

And besides, that background color may give younthat not-enough-contrast effect.

Edited by inkspot

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Wannahlakujuu
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:00pm

It sounds like you don't want to edit it, and without contrast, you use a lot of pointless colors. also PNG doesn't lose any colors, I converted it to PNG on my computer, and it lost no colors at all. from Mark's Pixel tutorial

"What not to use :

.BMP - 16 million possible colours for each pixel. Extremely inefficient for pixel-art storage.
.JPG - Lossy compression will smudge your nice crisp art in a variety of horrible ways.

What you should use :

.GIF - Saves images with up to 256 different colours. Small filesize allows fast loading. Loss of image quality only occurs when you excede 256 colours, though it is unlikely you will reach this point unless you are saving a composite of many sprites.
.PNG - Similiar to gif, except that it will allow you to save images with more than 256 colours without image loss. Technically better, but not well supported by Internet Explorer (boo, hiss)."

It isn't a bad peice though.

Edited by Wannahlakujuu

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inkspot
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:04pm

I told you that I am going to re-shade the chimney and probably half of the image. Ground textures look silly and too proportional compared to the isometric angle.

And save that PNG file 100 times over and its ruined, I guess. At least many programs ruin it... Thats why I always prefer to use bmp for wips and I am too laizy to convert a wip to PNG just because to show it, or whatever....

i use MS Paint for pixeling and PS for converting to GIF etc.

And forget that "it isnt a bad piece though", if its good, then say its good, not some "it isn't" stuff... And if its bad, then say its bad. So simple is that.

Edited by inkspot

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Blueberry_pie
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:05pm

Originally posted by inkspot

Lossless??? No way!

It usually smashes up the colours and its insecure.

What program do you use then? PNG always seems to work perfectly fine for me.

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Shark
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:32pm

cant u just create in photoshop and then just save to png, i no paint
sumtimes messes work as png but ps is far more superior.
i like the piece perhaps a little dull colour wise, although maybe im
just a bright sorta guy.

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Psychotic_Carp
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 2:01pm

png not secure? SARC doesnt even know of any problems with the png's and you cant get hit by making a png, its browsing to web pages using png's and thats only if you use IE.

got game?

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Rifts
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Posted: 23 August 2005 at 4:37pm

i personaly think that is gr8, mayb just add some shadeing to the
chimney cant reli think of much more i would do to this but its up to you

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ryan-gfx
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Posted: 24 August 2005 at 2:54pm

A totally agree about the PNG thing. It's a no-no for pixelart.

here are the reasons why:

-insecure on some browsers
-It slightly darkens the colors, screwing up your hues. No, you dont loose any colors, but if you want to keep a specific RGB, it'll change it.
-PNGs are huge. HUGE.

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inkspot Commander Joined: 05 May 2005 Location: Estonia Online Status: Offline Posts: 452	Topic: industry Posted: 23 August 2005 at 10:41am
	Hello. Look what I found in my archives! I should finish this. I know the chimney needs to be re-done because it has no actual shading on it. But the place looks a bit messy, I still want to preserve the dirtiness of the old site but it looks a bit... Maybe I overreacted or overpixeled it? Sorry for the bmp though, but its the only suitable format what I trust!
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jegHegy Seaman Joined: 04 August 2005 Location: Hungary Online Status: Offline Posts: 16	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 11:13am
	nice work, although it really needs more contrast. otherwise the details look nice. also, use PNG. lossless and small.
	http://jeghegy.deviantart.com/
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inkspot Commander Joined: 05 May 2005 Location: Estonia Online Status: Offline Posts: 452	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 11:36am
	Lossless??? No way! It usually smashes up the colours and its insecure. But as for contrast, I hate contrast :D Foggy mornings rule! And besides, that background color may give younthat not-enough-contrast effect. Edited by inkspot
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Wannahlakujuu Commander Joined: 02 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 205	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:00pm
	It sounds like you don't want to edit it, and without contrast, you use a lot of pointless colors. also PNG doesn't lose any colors, I converted it to PNG on my computer, and it lost no colors at all. from Mark's Pixel tutorial "What not to use : .BMP - 16 million possible colours for each pixel. Extremely inefficient for pixel-art storage. .JPG - Lossy compression will smudge your nice crisp art in a variety of horrible ways. What you should use : .GIF - Saves images with up to 256 different colours. Small filesize allows fast loading. Loss of image quality only occurs when you excede 256 colours, though it is unlikely you will reach this point unless you are saving a composite of many sprites. .PNG - Similiar to gif, except that it will allow you to save images with more than 256 colours without image loss. Technically better, but not well supported by Internet Explorer (boo, hiss)." It isn't a bad peice though. Edited by Wannahlakujuu
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inkspot Commander Joined: 05 May 2005 Location: Estonia Online Status: Offline Posts: 452	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:04pm
	I told you that I am going to re-shade the chimney and probably half of the image. Ground textures look silly and too proportional compared to the isometric angle. And save that PNG file 100 times over and its ruined, I guess. At least many programs ruin it... Thats why I always prefer to use bmp for wips and I am too laizy to convert a wip to PNG just because to show it, or whatever.... i use MS Paint for pixeling and PS for converting to GIF etc. And forget that "it isnt a bad piece though", if its good, then say its good, not some "it isn't" stuff... And if its bad, then say its bad. So simple is that. Edited by inkspot
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Blueberry_pie Rear Admiral Joined: 24 July 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2176	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:05pm
	*Originally posted by inkspot* Lossless??? No way! It usually smashes up the colours and its insecure. What program do you use then? PNG always seems to work perfectly fine for me.
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Shark Commander a.k.a. Feron Joined: 02 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2136	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 12:32pm
	cant u just create in photoshop and then just save to png, i no paint sumtimes messes work as png but ps is far more superior. i like the piece perhaps a little dull colour wise, although maybe im just a bright sorta guy. Edited by Shark
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Psychotic_Carp Commander Joined: 02 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1008	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 2:01pm
	png not secure? SARC doesnt even know of any problems with the png's and you cant get hit by making a png, its browsing to web pages using png's and thats only if you use IE.
	got game?
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Rifts Commander Joined: 14 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 355	Posted: 23 August 2005 at 4:37pm
	i personaly think that is gr8, mayb just add some shadeing to the chimney cant reli think of much more i would do to this but its up to you

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ryan-gfx Commander Joined: 25 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 244	Posted: 24 August 2005 at 2:54pm
	A totally agree about the PNG thing. It's a no-no for pixelart. here are the reasons why: -insecure on some browsers -It slightly darkens the colors, screwing up your hues. No, you dont loose any colors, but if you want to keep a specific RGB, it'll change it. -PNGs are huge. HUGE.

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Topic: industry