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gennoveus
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Topic: [WIP][brutal C+C] Rachael
Posted: 02 June 2010 at 4:12am

Hi everyone,

I lurk here almost every day but don't post much.

I'm very new to pixel art (and art in general) Can I please have some brutal C+C on my pixels of Rachael here from Blade Runner.

Here's my ref.

I can take hard criticism! I'm here to improve so you don't have to be nice - fire away!

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StepDragon
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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 9:01am

what style are you going for? realism which matches your ref? or pop art which works better with the style you have going? (i think you should go for pop art, its simple, clean, colorful, and fun) here are some examples.
ex 1
ex 2
ex 3

it dosen't have to be bright and happy (which alot of pap art does, for example you could do something like this: ex 4 but just use darker colors.

If you'd rather go realism, which would fit the mood of your ref, then the first thing you want to do is get the anatomy of your piece as correct as possible.

what you want to do is compare your piece to the ref and be as pickey as possible. for example.
her right eye is too small
her hair is too collapsed (by only about 1 px) on the top right.
her ear is too sharp, and dosen't visually overlap her head enough.
you don't have her hair behind her head.
her hairline near her ear is too high, bring it down a bit.

but for a beginner, not bad. not bad at all. just keep us updated, and we'll keep helping out. Hope all this helps!

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A.B. Lazer
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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 12:41pm

As far as pixelart portraits go, it is very nice: good colors and not too many of them, right contrast and shadows. No beginner mistakes like overdithering or too large canvas to handle.

If you want to futher enhance likeness, it is better to try what StepDragon said and if needed ask on forums which specialise on portraits. Pixels themselves are more than okay.
If you want to add things to form a piece it is a different task.

I see underlying grid. What was the process like? Have you put the grid on the ref? How you picked colors?

Edited by A.B. Lazer - 02 June 2010 at 12:48pm

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dpixel
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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 12:47pm

I think you have a great start. I agree with what StepDragon said. Also, working on the hair might point out tweaks that might be made on her face....at least that would be my next step.

hehe (ಠ_ಠ ) o_- :p

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gennoveus
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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 2:09pm

Originally posted by StepDragon

what style are you going for? realism which matches your ref?

Realism. I am actually a huge fan of abstract art, but I don;t want to use that as an excuse for not being good at art. Thanks for this comment BTW, I realised that my picture is too pop art-ish.

Originally posted by StepDragon

her right eye is too small
her hair is too collapsed (by only about 1 px) on the top right.
her ear is too sharp, and dosen't visually overlap her head enough.
you don't have her hair behind her head.
her hairline near her ear is too high, bring it down a bit.

Will do. Thanks!

I see underlying grid. What was the process like? Have you put the grid on the ref? How you picked colors?

I drew a few reference lines on the original pic, and resized them down to 20% of the original size, and drew on top of that. It wasn't a full on grid, but just enough lines to work with.

Embarrasingly, the colours are almost as-is from the original picture using the colour picker, although I did tweak them slightly.

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I'll tweak the proportions, taking everyone's comments into account, and I'll finish the piece to the best of my ability (or until I get stuck). After that I'll post it here again for dissection!

And thank you for the compliments!

Edited by gennoveus - 02 June 2010 at 2:16pm

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dpixel
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Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:43pm

Here's a quick edit:

Quickly roughed in the hair and mainly edited the eyes to give them more depth by adding more of the dark(black) and a couple reflections in the pupils. Basically added more contrast and gave the illusion of bigger eyes..sort of like adding eye liner and mascara.

hehe (ಠ_ಠ ) o_- :p

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gennoveus
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Posted: 05 June 2010 at 9:30pm

Jesus! That's nice.

I'll study it and do my best to produce something similar without actually copying anything.

Sorry that I still haven't updated; I've been on holiday with my partner. I'll be back home tonight so expect something in the near future.

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gennoveus
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Posted: 13 July 2017 at 6:05am

Originally posted by gennoveus

Jesus! That's nice.

I'll study it and do my best to produce something similar without actually copying anything.

Sorry that I still haven't updated; I've been on holiday with my partner. I'll be back home tonight so expect something in the near future.

... and by near future I mean 7 years. Sorry for the necro-post but I finally finished it!
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/114194.htm

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eishiya
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Posted: 13 July 2017 at 6:32am

Better late than never! You improved it a lot.

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gennoveus Midshipman Joined: 16 December 2018 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 32	Topic: [WIP][brutal C+C] Rachael Posted: 02 June 2010 at 4:12am
	Hi everyone, I lurk here almost every day but don't post much. I'm very new to pixel art (and art in general) Can I please have some brutal C+C on my pixels of Rachael here from Blade Runner. Here's my ref. I can take hard criticism! I'm here to improve so you don't have to be nice - fire away!
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StepDragon Commander Joined: 03 April 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 258	Posted: 02 June 2010 at 9:01am
	what style are you going for? realism which matches your ref? or pop art which works better with the style you have going? (i think you should go for pop art, its simple, clean, colorful, and fun) here are some examples. ex 1 ex 2 ex 3 it dosen't have to be bright and happy (which alot of pap art does, for example you could do something like this: ex 4 but just use darker colors. If you'd rather go realism, which would fit the mood of your ref, then the first thing you want to do is get the anatomy of your piece as correct as possible. what you want to do is compare your piece to the ref and be as pickey as possible. for example. her right eye is too small her hair is too collapsed (by only about 1 px) on the top right. her ear is too sharp, and dosen't visually overlap her head enough. you don't have her hair behind her head. her hairline near her ear is too high, bring it down a bit. but for a beginner, not bad. not bad at all. just keep us updated, and we'll keep helping out. Hope all this helps!
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A.B. Lazer Commander Joined: 21 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 310	Posted: 02 June 2010 at 12:41pm
	As far as pixelart portraits go, it is very nice: good colors and not too many of them, right contrast and shadows. No beginner mistakes like overdithering or too large canvas to handle. If you want to futher enhance likeness, it is better to try what StepDragon said and if needed ask on forums which specialise on portraits. Pixels themselves are more than okay. If you want to add things to form a piece it is a different task. I see underlying grid. What was the process like? Have you put the grid on the ref? How you picked colors? Edited by A.B. Lazer - 02 June 2010 at 12:48pm
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dpixel Commander Joined: 03 February 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 564	Posted: 02 June 2010 at 12:47pm
	I think you have a great start. I agree with what StepDragon said. Also, working on the hair might point out tweaks that might be made on her face....at least that would be my next step.
	hehe (ಠ_ಠ ) o_- :p
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gennoveus Midshipman Joined: 16 December 2018 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 32	Posted: 02 June 2010 at 2:09pm
	*Originally posted by StepDragon* what style are you going for? realism which matches your ref? Realism. I am actually a huge fan of abstract art, but I don;t want to use that as an excuse for not being good at art. Thanks for this comment BTW, I realised that my picture is too pop art-ish. *Originally posted by StepDragon* her right eye is too small her hair is too collapsed (by only about 1 px) on the top right. her ear is too sharp, and dosen't visually overlap her head enough. you don't have her hair behind her head. her hairline near her ear is too high, bring it down a bit. Will do. Thanks! I see underlying grid. What was the process like? Have you put the grid on the ref? How you picked colors? I drew a few reference lines on the original pic, and resized them down to 20% of the original size, and drew on top of that. It wasn't a full on grid, but just enough lines to work with. Embarrasingly, the colours are almost as-is from the original picture using the colour picker, although I did tweak them slightly. ----------- I'll tweak the proportions, taking everyone's comments into account, and I'll finish the piece to the best of my ability (or until I get stuck). After that I'll post it here again for dissection! And thank you for the compliments! Edited by gennoveus - 02 June 2010 at 2:16pm
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dpixel Commander Joined: 03 February 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 564	Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:43pm
	Here's a quick edit: Quickly roughed in the hair and mainly edited the eyes to give them more depth by adding more of the dark(black) and a couple reflections in the pupils. Basically added more contrast and gave the illusion of bigger eyes..sort of like adding eye liner and mascara.
	hehe (ಠ_ಠ ) o_- :p
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gennoveus Midshipman Joined: 16 December 2018 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 32	Posted: 05 June 2010 at 9:30pm
	Jesus! That's nice. I'll study it and do my best to produce something similar without actually copying anything. Sorry that I still haven't updated; I've been on holiday with my partner. I'll be back home tonight so expect something in the near future.
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gennoveus Midshipman Joined: 16 December 2018 Location: New Zealand Online Status: Offline Posts: 32	Posted: 13 July 2017 at 6:05am
	*Originally posted by gennoveus* Jesus! That's nice. I'll study it and do my best to produce something similar without actually copying anything. Sorry that I still haven't updated; I've been on holiday with my partner. I'll be back home tonight so expect something in the near future. ... and by near future I mean 7 years. Sorry for the necro-post but I finally finished it! http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/114194.htm
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eishiya Commander Joined: 04 August 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1104	Posted: 13 July 2017 at 6:32am
	Better late than never! You improved it a lot.
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