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Quote jalonso Replybullet Topic: ISOak
    Posted: 14 December 2011 at 7:06am
The theme for this isometric collaboration is underwater. Reefs, Volcanoes, Sea Creatures (real and fantasy), Architectural relics, machines, underwater small villages/housing are cool but not 'real city' stuff (roads, buildings, etc.), OTT fantasy is OK as long as all fits within the watery theme. Pretty much anything goes!

Rules
• You can create more than one tile.
• Only one active tile reservation at any one time. You must finish a tile before making a new one.
• Once you reserve a tile you must post an initial WIP within 7 days so it doesn't hold other up.
• Once you post an initial WIP you get 14 days to update your tile or post a comment letting us know its active. Every WIP/post update (busy, school, work, sick, moving, etc.). Every post thereafter buys you 14 days.
• Outer/Edge tiles MUST use transparency to 'break the grid'. (See the ISO-cology collab edges HERE)
• Inner tiles CAN NOT use transparency.
• You must use the supplied palette colors only (No black or white), but you don't have to use them all in your tile (Those making outer tiles will have one extra color for transparency).
• NO animations.
• Your tile must match the tiles surrounding yours, unless your tile has no neighbors (first 5 tiles). This will become increasingly tougher as tiles get added. Some tiles will need to match on as many as 4 sides.
• Matching your neighbors does not mean it has to continue other's idea. Just that it blends seamlessly somehow.
• Please keep the collab's general light-source and scale as shown below consistent in your tile. This may be tweaked in your tile if you use secondary light sources.
• Please post your tile on its own as a comment and make sure to say what number it is and it will be added to the collab master image by a Collab Manager in order to keep the color palette true.
• Your tile may be added to the master image in WIP stages if it shows the tile's direction enough to help others visualize their own tiles.

Special Rules
• The first 5 tiles may be anywhere at all and require no neighboring tiles.
• From the 6th tile on your tile MUST have at least one neighboring tile already posted that your tile blends into.
• If one of the first 5 tiles picked is next to the first 4 tiles then #6 may pick a tile with no neighbors. Or once 5 starting points have begun.
• In the event that a tile is made without a reservation or 2 people accidentally work on the same tile a special vote may be held, or a duel to the death may be started by the 2 people.
• Special rule(s) may be added to accommodate whatever loophole y'alls manage to find and exploit.

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• Novice or pro, all are encouraged to collaborate.
• Possible tile rejection if your tile is not in isometric projection or fails in scale.
• Possible tile rejection if your tile does not match and blend into your neighbor(s) tile.
• Possible tile rejection if your tile just doesn't blend in with some degree of harmony. Should this happen to you check for comments left for you...there will be some!
• You can get tips and help to improve your tile on this thread. No need to make a separate WIP thread.
• You are encouraged to take all c+c on your tile. You do not need to apply all given c+c but please don't ignore them. Especially from your neighbor. Remember this is a 'collaboration'.
• Please use the 'PJs Image Specs' link HERE to check your final tile colors has max 20 colors (21 if an outer tile) and even the right colors.

This project features Dennis' Award Winning 20 color palette.
If you submit your tile to your PJ Gallery you do not need to credit
Dennis but it would be nice of you.



Tile Template  Scale & Lightsource

• Collab Director - jalonso • Collab Manager - Gecimen • Helpers - All PJ Mods

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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:06am
Official Image and Reservation list
We're complete!



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Tile List
01 jalonso 02 Nyno 03 cure 04 LuckyF 05 Gavralcraw 06 offwhite 07 jalonso 08 codewarrior
09 GetYourGoat 10 -green 11 jalonso12 Reo 13 Arkan85 14 Oke 15 Levaunt16 Gavralcraw
17 Gavralcraw18 Pandora'sSecret 19 a3um 20 Nevercreature 21 Dennis22 Dream23 monotov 24 cure
25 Nyno26 LBpixels27 moondrome28 Dennis 29 Felix20 30 Sergiotron 31 jalonso32 Pukahuna
33 AtskaHeart 34 Pukahuna 35 cure 36 Numberplay 37 monotov 38 moondrome 39 cure 40 moondrome
41 Pukahuna42 moondrome 43 jalonso 44 -green 45 Gecimen46 cure 47 Pandora'sSecret 48 jalonso
49 cure50 AhmedElyamani 51 tanuki 52 Dennis53 Graindolium 54 Pukahuna 55 Gecimen56 TropicalSnowcone
57 Drazelic 58 CraftyPixel 59 Kravvon Nar'roth 60 AlanDrake 61 crozier 62 cure 63 moondrome 64 Drazelic
65 Joseki 66 darchangel 67 a3um68 Kittygurl521 69 nivek 70 Hapiel 71 Nevercreature 72 Jeremy

RED numbers = Completed tiles
BLUE numbers = WIP tiles posted on thread and/or in Main Collab image
GREEN numbers = Special circumstance tiles (Extra time allowance)
YELLOW numbers = Tiles with more than 1 person (un-reserved)
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20.12.2011
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Frost Butt
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22.12.2011
8
NonPlusUltra Expired
22.12.2011
33Jeremy Dropped
24.12.2011
69
Jackman941 Expired
26.12.2011
50Alex Pang Expired
27.12.2011
46
ingl0rius Expired
05.01.2012
44
Killermachine Expired
09.01.2012
17
feyincognito Expired
09.01.2012
61
Club Beuker Expired
20.02.2012
34
Jão Dropped
12.03.2012
27mdog95 Dropped
12.03.2012
22
Super17 Dropped
04.07.2012
42
Mr.Fahrenheit Dropped
03.09.2012
62
philippejugnet Dropped
03.09.2012
39
codewarrior Expired
03.09.2012
36
shampoop Expired
03.09.2012
28
antymattar Expired
04.09.2012
50
Graindolium Dropped
10.09.2012
11
ultimaodin Dropped
14.01.2012
61
Adarias
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22.01.2013
65
DanoriExpired
23.01.2012
58
gogglecrabDropped
09.03.2012
32
crozierDropped
12.03.2012
33
NumberplayExpired
12.03.2012
54
JuninFCExpired
14.03.2013
65
Stacy3601Expired
25.04.2013
34
Mr.FahrenheitExpired
05.06.2013
46
DragonMarxExpired

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Remember you have tile #XX reserved on the XXX collab.
Please post a progress report, a WIP or a cancellation on the thread, thx :)


Below shows latest update date and time.





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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:06am
Reservations, latest updates and dates of reservation loss (reds need urgent attention, blacks are past the limit):




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Quote codewarrior Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:32am
<--- would like to have a tile <.<
dont rly care about the number or place just let me know which one i could have to work on :]
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:39am
Just pick a random number then, e.g. your age or birth year :)
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Quote codewarrior Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 8:59am
oki lets go with the sign of infinity then. nr. 8 shall be my request =)
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Quote Sergiotron Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 9:52am
Due my talent for "palette usage" and my lack of talent for "palette creation", I'm in! I'll choose a tile later :)
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Quote ingl0rius Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 11:17am
I would love to be involved in this - I'll wait, though, until I have something to work with/from.
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Quote tanuki Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 11:37am
I'd like tile 51


I'm thinking about a small landed submarine at the edge of a chasm, or something like that.

Or maybe something like unagi the eel...
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Quote NonPlusUltra Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 12:34pm
Hello. I'd like permission to create tile 28 please.
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Quote Arkan85 Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:02pm
I'll pick the 13 if it's ok for you:)
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 1:51pm
All are added to the list :)
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@all, in case you missed it in the rules post. Gecimen will be helping with the collab for any issue that comes up whenever I'm offline (US times) since he is in Europe. This should make answers and help easier for all.


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Quote Losm Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by tanuki

I'd like tile 51


I'm thinking about a small landed submarine at the edge of a chasm, or something like that.

Or maybe something like unagi the eel...


Oh, good God, that thing used to frighten me to death when I was younger. O_O
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Quote LuckyF Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 2:57pm
 Ok guys ... Wanted to wait till first tiles come up, but I have an idea for #4 and I'm afraid someone will take it from me ))) 
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 3:35pm
#4 reserved for LuckyF. GL everyone.
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Quote tanuki Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 3:56pm


I rearranged the palette in a way that makes sense to me. It gets greener and more yellow toward the top and bluer and more red toward the bottom. I thought maybe someone else might want to use it like this.

The background color is the darkest color on the palette, by the way, not some random color.



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Quote LuckyF Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:23pm
 Here's some messy sketch to start things.
This looked so much better in my head )

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by LuckyF

...this looked so much better in my head...

Isn't it always that way

@All, In our last collab (iso-cology) the winning palette was very user friendly and sophisticated. Imo, this time the palette is going to be far more challenging and even frustrating. My advice to all is to focus on pixel areas, or as the cool kids call them 'clusters' and not rely on coloring as one normally would want to do.
Because I think this palette is on the advanced side of things I suggest those who have never tried, thought of trying or even contemplated just the thought of trying it sometime and always revert to creative comfort zones is to download graFX (see the resource section for extras HERE) and give it a try. As you learn to use this great app you'll be somewhat less overwhelmed by these colors in an underwater environment. The template is small enough.

...anyhoo, just a thought, idea, suggestion and advice.

Mac users: Getting this app to work and especially add all of DB's scripts can be frustrating for us but the basic app works well on its own and is a true delight.

*plug over*


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Quote LuckyF Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by jalonso


Isn't it always that way

 Yep. But hey, maybe some day it will be the other way around )))



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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by LuckyF

 Here's some messy sketch to start things.
This looked so much better in my head )



Well I think this is awesome, very readable and good use of colors, even that I can't see the lack of grays in the palette. The blurry feeling of the octopus's head is really creative. Of course this is a WIP and you may want to detail the lower sides a bit (or maybe begin a piece of coral) so that your neighbours can follow you better, not that it's bad now.
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Quote tanuki Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 7:31pm
Wait, am I the only one that can't see luckyf's image? I even tried on two browsers. At first I thought gecimen was joking describing something that can't be seen...
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Quote Gavralcraw Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 7:42pm
Can I put my name down for a Hex, preferably on the right edge? I'm thinking maybe Thunderball underwater battle... with the palette it may be hard though.

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Quote mdog95 Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 9:45pm
I might give this a go when I get back from vacation. I would reserve a tile now, but it'll sit there with no WIP for well over a week, so I'll wait 'till I get back. Seeing the last collab took sooo long, There will probably be plenty more spots available after a week and a half.
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Quote tanuki Replybullet Posted: 14 December 2011 at 9:57pm


I obviously have a ton left to do, just showing the direction I'm going. The scaffolding in the middle is just so I can get the various angles right and try to stay in iso perspective. I think this is only my third time doing iso. The current colors are mostly to block in the shapes, rather than be the final color choices.

Overall it's set in an undersea chasm. The center is going to to be a rock spire coming out of it. On top of that will be a crashed but undamaged minisub, big enough on the scale to fit a few people if they squeeze in. Wrapping around the base of the spire will be a very large eel that can only have a small part of it fit into view.

One challenge so far has been trying to make the cliffs look sort of rocky and natural while staying in iso perspective, because I'm using a few different angles.
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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 12:46am
I'd like to claim tile number 52 (to the right of tanuki's current tile).

Thinking of starting an underwater sunken city there which may or may not be populated by fantasy humanoid fish creatures.
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Quote Mindiell Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:58am
I want to try something. I'm a very beginner and a noob, but I want to try to work with this palette (hard for me I think).

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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 2:47am
@tanuki; good job with the chasm edge so far.

@dennis; I can put your name down but you'll have to wait till tanuki's (mostly) finished to continue his tile.

@mdog95; it's a sensible thing to do to hold reserving until you get back. But be sure to give it a go when you can.

@graval and mindiel; to reserve a tile, just give a number, we can not assign tiles to you.


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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 3:51am
Ok, will wait. tanuki, please give me shout when your tile's right side is mostly finished. :)

While I'm waiting I compiled a little template of my own, including tanuki's color arrangement and some color wheel blobbery and ramps and the official scale, light source hints and the full palette. It's saved as an indexed png, so it also has the whole palette ready for use in your favorite pixel tool. Color at index 20 is not part of the palette and meant for transparency.



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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 4:23am
Much appreciated.

Added LuckyF's WIP as reference to neighbouring tiles.


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Quote Jackman941 Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 7:59am
I call 69.

It's my birth year backwards ;)
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 8:28am
#69 reserved for Jackman941.
We will be accepting 1 more no-neighbour tile reservation, maybe, but we want this last one to be someone who can start rightaway, and thus let other people reserve tiles as soon as possible.
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Quote Kravvon Nar'roth Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 10:21am
I call tile 59 (it's my age reversed - no just kidding ;) ), bottom left of tanuki's.
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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 11:08am
Just for clarification, as I do not see my name in the list, do I have 52 reserved or not?
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 1:03pm
52 + 59 reserved.
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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 3:58pm
I know I should wait until tanuki is mostly finished but I just couldn't hold myself back any longer and wanted to start playing around with the underwater theme, so here's my WIP:



I promise, I'll change/make it work to fit to what tanuki ultimately ends up with.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 5:14pm
Sure mate, no harm done. I'm sure you can solve the consistency issues later on.
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Quote tanuki Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 6:13pm


The minisub is going to be a challenge and I still need to add lots of details to it. I want it to look like it's slamming into that rock spire. The eel hasn't been started yet, except when I was sketching this. Various other details will come later like making some plants and 1 or 2 small rock spires in the upper right.

So far I've only used 9 colors, but the eel will have some more that I haven't used yet.




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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 7:34pm
Looks very promising.

@Tanuki and Dennis, just an idea, you can think of illustrating the light plays that usually drop on seabed.


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Quote tanuki Replybullet Posted: 15 December 2011 at 9:18pm


I'm still trying to make the submarine and eel look good. That submarine needs a lot of work. I'm going to try to add some light on the ground.

Soon other people can start working on neighboring tiles.




I tried adding some light. It's kind of hard to tell what it is from 100% view, but I kind of like the texture too.



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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 1:20am
Those rocky cliffs are looking great. I made a little edit to show how I would go about aa-ing the eel and the submarine and how the readability of the hatch and handle could be improved.
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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 3:22am
update to 52, still not finished but the right edge is probably not going to change anymore


I think the seabed water reflections do not work too well on a small scale like that which is why I'm reluctant to add them.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 4:07am
@Dennis; Well, just a quick doodle, cause without any texture I think it looks a bit concrete-ish.


@tanuki, going awesome. There are some 'wrong browns' on the tail of the eel.

@Graindolium; you haven't reserved a tile. If you're just trying out the palette, then I advice you to make some plantation or corals and see if you can get the use of all the colors in the palette. Then add up details such as the eel and jellyfish.


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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 6:03am
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Fish and Jellyfish are not isometric...keep an eye on that, k.
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Quote Kravvon Nar'roth Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 6:17am
Initial sketch of tile #59. Trying to imitate tanuki's awesome rendering of the cliffs as closely as possible for the sake of consistency, though obviously I still have plenty of work to do in that department.
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Quote Killermachine Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 6:23am

Can I pick tile # 44? il try to work with dennis and tanuki's tiles as much as possible
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 6:48am
@Killermachine; sure.

@Kravvon; I advice some kind of ground texture to you as well, to make it more 'underwater' and not just blue.
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Quote Kravvon Nar'roth Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 7:27am
@Gecimen: You mean texture or caustics?
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 8:11am
@Kravvon; up to you really, sand texture, light play (see my post above for an example, I think this is what you call caustics?) or seaweed, whatever makes it look like seabed rather than just ground.
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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 16 December 2011 at 8:56am
Thanks Gecimen, that doodle really helped.

update to 52, think I'm finished, unless there are any major flaws that need fixing:
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