its the verry start of the set at the mo.
any CnC for me?


EDIT...

ok i upped the saturation a bit which colours are better, old or new?

Old


New


I also added some new beach fade tiles (although these are only
visible with the new colours at the moment)...

CnC?

plus i resent that any of you think i stole them, theres nothing to
show i stole them because i havnt! i havnt stolen any graphics before
and i never plan to.., give me some credability here

EDIT.....

heres a new edit havnt done much in a while all iv done now realy is
a
tree and a bigger mockup of the tiles...

IMG]

EDIT...

i melded the trees to the ground and i changed some of the grass
colours to try n make em fit better.

i still need to change the grass to sand thingy (giveing me trouble)
and add some
highlights to sea foam.

"First thing I noticed was the colours, they almost exactly from SoM3"
they shouldnt be, i have even compared them and the colours seem
quite differnt.

mayb its when i save it as gif the colours seem to change from what i
see in the PSD i have no idea why but its anoying

anyways....
im also aware the house doesnt quite look right or fit properly yet but
ima workin on those.



EDIT...

i changed the grass to sand thing, looks a bit better to me im
probably gunna tweak it a bit tho,

added highlights to sea.



EDIT...
sab i assure u i have stolen nothing, and its not verry nice to be
accused either.. anyways heres how its shapeing up remember
nothing is final yet reli...

the trees seem to be the biggest problem at the most part, i myself
actualy like them so i have just changed them a bit to try n fit them
in better. i did try to make a new 1 with not much luck i may try
again.

lawn around the house is gone most probably wont be back!

tree grid has changed to make it less plain and unatural

door changed house generaly been edited.

still going to change the sand - grass thingy

but heres where i have it...


EDIT...

just an edit on the house...



EDIT...

changed the house allot.

and although it does apear to be some sort of beach house type thing
these are actual tiles which are going to be used in a game im
helping
put together, so the house will b used away from any sand lots more
then it will be used near sand. this lil sceene is just so i can get
feedback on how my tiles are looking and can make them better for
the
game.

anyways house:


EDIT...

not much updated in the form of tiles but here is the HUD i have
started
working on for the game.



EDIT...

ok so your constant nagging about the tree is paying off even tho i
liked
it lol, i have started a new one answer me these questions three

1. is it a good start to a new tree or should a restart again

2. how the hell am i suposed to go about doing the top

3. do you like vanilla ice cream



quick edit...



EDIT...

ok i threw away the new trunk cos the tree would be too big so heres
a
new one....



better?

EDIT...

ok iv basicly done autom tree's for variation.



EDIT...

ok trees are no longer radioactive and glowing.. also iv started on a
new set of tiles for a built up town or castle area...





EDIT...

ok i havnt updated in a while and i havnt done much but here is what
i have...

3 spritesheets of differnt people walking:

generaly same animation just differnt clothes, here is the main
charicer animated from the sprite sheet:


also i have done some head bases for charicter portraits, i have also
finished 2, the main charicter and an NPC:

Main:



NPC:


Edited by Artisan

I think i have seen some of those tiles before... have you posted this any where else?

I would saturate it a little bit, but it looks good all around.

yeah that is what i was remebering. But now that i looked back at the tut, i can clearly see that is yours. sorry for suspecting dude. It just looked so familiar...

well, on to commenting...

i think that the transition from the grass to the sand need a little more detail, maybe some shadows or some stray big blades of grass pokin through. That is the thing with grass. it will grow anywhere and everywhere. except fire, of course. like when i was ten and stuff i loved to play in this sand box and flood it with water in the summer. but every springall these weeds and grass would pop up, you see, i didn't have one of those cheap plastic turtle things that you put sand in. Mine was a Four foot x 7 foot enclosed with 8 inch high wooden planks with sand and all kinds of toys (and the occational suprise left by stray cats). yeah i had lots of fun in that thing. My friends and i would build cities trying to keep the water from th hose away from them by digging rivers and trenches. Oh and most importantly make small hole in others' walls so the rising waters had a place to go. As long as it wasn't mine.

Whoo! tangent... this is the info you need

• grass grows every where that it wont be dug up
• it is never just an even transition from grass to sand or gravel or dirt
• it is like the dithering you started but use real blades, not pixels
• the dirt tile is too uniform
• love the water and small waves. animate it.
• love the sand texture, try some variation in shape and scale(bigger)
•  transition from dry to wet sand shouldn't be dithered, just have the dunes become less and less define as they become wetter (try taking a trip to the beach, or looking at some more photos, it might help get what i mean. hard to explain)
• if it is the sea shore, make some shells and stuff 
• or if it fresh water add some sticks and stones
• the banks of fresh water can also be comprised of gravel/ pebbles.
• like the shadows. keep them going throughout, including in transitions
• cant wait to see more
• sand boxes are not litter boxes
• poo is not chocolate

whoo! that was a doosey... 

ok i upped the saturation a bit which colours are better, old or new?

Old


New


I also added some new beach fade tiles (although these are only
visible with the new colours at the moment)...

CnC?

plus i resent that any of you think i stole them, theres nothing to
show i stole them because i havnt! i havnt stolen any graphics before
and i never plan to.., give me some credability here

The trees clash with the rest. In style, color and the unrealistic lines. They're too vibrant and too cartoony to comfortably fit in with the rest. They're even more disconnected from the rest by now melding into the ground in any way. They're literally just sitting directly on top of the grass tiles.

I would also add some highlights to the sea foam. :)

First thing I noticed was the colours, they almost exactly from SoM3. And the trees colours are clashing, they are too bright in comparison to the tiles. And yes, the transitions are very stark. Don't be afraid to spread your colours around a little bit too. Besides that, its looking very nice.

i melded the trees to the ground and i changed some of the grass
colours to try n make em fit better.

i still need to change the grass to sand thingy (giveing me trouble)
and add some
highlights to sea foam.

"First thing I noticed was the colours, they almost exactly from SoM3"
they shouldnt be, i have even compared them and the colours seem
quite differnt.

mayb its when i save it as gif the colours seem to change from what i
see in the PSD i have no idea why but its anoying

anyways....
im also aware the house doesnt quite look right or fit properly yet but
ima workin on those.



EDIT...

i changed the grass to sand thing, looks a bit better to me im
probably gunna tweak it a bit tho,

added highlights to sea.



Edited by Artisan

trees look kinda dark

grass looks like it's from seikien densetsu 2

I wanna live there

Everything you added since the trees seems like they've been taken from a completely different tileset. It looks terrible, dare i say.

I don't think he's jacking stuff saboteur. It's obvious som was an influence here. That was the first thing I did when I learned to make tile sets. You just need to make everything fit together. Before you go any farther take the suggestions made here and improve your trees. Making one thing that fits well in the set is better than making ten things that don't. It's obvious your trying just keep at it and take your time. Work on the trees I think you have a good start on them.

http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1662& ;PN=1

take a look at his trees. trees are made up of a bunch of groups of leaves not just one big group. Good luck

I -did- say IF, but I suppose that doesn't justify things.

Blick: To be honest, I find it hard that they're all made by the same person. The grass and water are beautiful, in my opinion, and so are the trees. The house and lawn are not really of the same quality, and I know he said he's working on them. I can respect that, but they still do look like they're of yet another style. In fact, each new update has added something of a seemingly different style than the last update.

Yes, I know I take the risk of coming across as an ass by up and saying I think that these are stolen. Simply enough, I kind of do. I've reason to be suspicious, and I think you can at least see that. Sucks that you lose respect for me for that call, and to be honest it would shock me if I were right, because Artisan is a good pixel artist, from what I've seen, but the inconsistencies suggest that he is. So I state that. Sorry you don't like that, but that's my reality.

Artisan: One good and cleancut way to separate grass from sand is ye olde cliff method. Iunno if you want to do that, but a good cliff negates the need for straight sand-to-grass transitions.
Though I do like this attempt better, I feel as if it takes a bit of the height outta your grass.
And the top of your mown-lawn, where it meets the long grass, might benefit from some more defined lines.

The trees need to lose their sphere-ness and the dark line across the top, I think. I think they're salvageable, but making a completely new tree is also an option.

The house (I know you're working on it, but I'll c&c anyhow) needs defined ends on the edges of the roof, and maybe the door shouldn't occupy the whole of the height of the wall.

And sorry for being suspicious, but I am. You ARE a good artist, and I don't know why you would steal stuff when you've got the skill to make it yourself... just why the different styles?

sab i assure u i have stolen nothing, and its not verry nice to be
accused either.. anyways heres how its shapeing up remember
nothing is final yet reli...

the trees seem to be the biggest problem at the most part, i myself
actualy like them so i have just changed them a bit to try n fit them
in better. i did try to make a new 1 with not much luck i may try
again.

lawn around the house is gone most probably wont be back!

tree grid has changed to make it less plain and unatural

door changed house generaly been edited.

still going to change the sand - grass thingy

but heres where i have it...

just an edit on the house...

Hey Artisan! lookin good. love the sand and the tall grass. the transition between the sand and the grass is loking better, but it looks like the sand is the dominant tile; it should be the grass that should be the dominant tile. like the tall grass and the cut grass. the trees dont really seam to fit with your style or the climate of the piece there are only certain trees that will grow in such a salty places heathily. Maybe you should use mangroves or willows or anyother tropical or ocean/sea habitual plant.
I think that the roof of the house needs some work. maybe add a gutter or some broken shingles, a chimney, different materials like corigated iron or thatch. Some more texture and varience is needed too. the grass has plenty but everything else needs more. you could also change the shape of the house. some thing like:
|*********|         or         |**************|
|                |                     |                         |
|      |*****                      |      |*****|       |   
|      |                               |      |         |       | 
*****                               *****         *****

Also, in my expirience, beach houses are on stilts and have porches.
so maybe :
|***************|
|                           |
|                           |
|***************|
|_________________|
i think this would actualy look most reallistic.

one thing that i really liked in your first post was that there was some lone blades of grass sticking out of the sand away from the rest.

that is my input

Lol, i was just checking up and i glanced at your sand to grass area and noticed that in some way it looked like the sand was coming out of the ground like grass or leaves. I dont know if anyone else noticed that, but i thought i should say.

The house looks really good now. You should have a small shadow right under the roof line. To show the roof overhang. Maybe have more shading on the roof. One side should be getting more light than the other. Just a couple suggestions to give it more depth. Good job.

I still don't think the trees fit though.

you should have some more varience to the rocks. and there seems to be a difference in the levels of the rooves, i don't know if that was intentional or not. every thing else that i think needs work is in my last post.


Edited by MurrMan

Yeah, the trees just don't fit. They're just circles melting at the bottom. Also try making the trees way less bright. If you look at games with trees in 'em you notice they aren't like that.

Fix the trees. :'[

The HUD looks good, a tad large though.
Makes the game it's self seem tiny.

It looks better now that it suits the other art style.
Why not try looking at 7sons trees?
And yes, I do like vanilla icecream.

You might be able to get away with breaking your current ice-cream (that is now engraved into history) tree's texture up (to something like the grass, although much bulkier) and maybe make the pallette autumn colours? Then it'll be complimented by the house's roof. Also, make 3 or 4 variations of the tree to kill the monotony.

the tree do look more realistic, but what you need now in this game is variation. i like both trees, the round one and more natural one. maybe try to incorporate both into the scene, so it gives the game more edge? 

ok iv basicly done autom tree's for variation.