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Hello there PJ'ers! It's been a long time since I've done something, so I decided to participate in the challenge for last week. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to do what I wanted, but decided to take the practice anyway.

To that end, I've made this:

I know it doesn't show rage/aggression, but I'm not done with it just yet.
I've been wanting to get some practice in with what an art critic said about my previous works so far, and so I tried to put them to practice here. I got a little bold on the color choice and stopped the "over-pixelling", at least so I think, that so plagues my other pieces.

Now for the question behind all this: what should I do to make it better? It doesn't resonate with me that much, and I was wondering if anyone sees anything wrong with it. Keep in mind the face is a little caricatured, so anatomy is going to be a little off. Additionally, I'm keeping with the limitations of the Drunk Tank Pink challenge restrictions.

Alright, PJ'ers...have at it!
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Topic: Smilling Man: C + C Posted: 22 July 2013 at 6:55pm
	Hello there PJ'ers! It's been a long time since I've done something, so I decided to participate in the challenge for last week. Unfortunately, I ran out of time to do what I wanted, but decided to take the practice anyway. To that end, I've made this: I know it doesn't show rage/aggression, but I'm not done with it just yet. I've been wanting to get some practice in with what an art critic said about my previous works so far, and so I tried to put them to practice here. I got a little bold on the color choice and stopped the "over-pixelling", at least so I think, that so plagues my other pieces. Now for the question behind all this: what should I do to make it better? It doesn't resonate with me that much, and I was wondering if anyone sees anything wrong with it. Keep in mind the face is a little caricatured, so anatomy is going to be a little off. Additionally, I'm keeping with the limitations of the Drunk Tank Pink challenge restrictions. 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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 24 July 2013 at 1:43pm
	Bump and mini-update! < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu" ed="ed">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish Detect language » Hungarian < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en" ed="ed">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish English (auto-detected) » English Edited by AirStyle - 11 June 2014 at 5:35pm
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Xhukari Commander Joined: 22 June 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 106	Posted: 24 July 2013 at 6:52pm
	I can't help but feel that your shading is awkward. You seem to be having an issue with different parts having different light sources... why does the forehead only light up on one side, while the cheek just below is fully lit? And you got seem weird shading going on (under the leftside of the mouth; what is that?). I think you'd benefit greatly from using dithering.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 24 July 2013 at 8:42pm
	Ok. Anyone else want to chime in? < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu" ed="ed">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish Detect language » Hungarian
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Mr.Fahrenheit Commander Joined: 01 April 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 238	Posted: 24 July 2013 at 10:43pm
	I'd personally advise against dithering. I think the peice is too small and the colors too far apart. A lot of you clusters have jagged edges which cause a feeling of dissonance. I also like the idea of using the green for the shading but I think it clashes a little too much as it is. Lastly you're sort of adding unnecessary detail to the shading which clusters it up and gives it a weird appearance. Check the shading on his forehead.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 12:11am
	@Mr. Fahrenheit: thanks for the color approval. I was trying to do something different with my colors this time. I like what you did with my forehead, but I'm at a loss as too why that works more than what I did. When should I use the wavy shading, if you can give me an example? Also for the chin and down: I will admit I'm confused myself at what happened. I was trying to show that the face is tilted up slightly, revealing the underside of the jaw. I was trying to portray that here, but I messed up somehow...not entirely how I did, though. Anymore suggestions? < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu" ed="ed">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish Detect language » Hungarian
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 3:46am
	Are those extrernal cheeks or ears? Why is his mouth so huge without the rest of his face compensating for it? It seems like we look at him from a bit underneath. Perhaps move the highlight on his head higher?
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 7:23am
	@Hapiel: In order: External cheeks with ears underneath. The ears have earrings. The mouth is huge due to an animation idea I planned on implementing. I don't see how the rest of the face isn't compensating for the huge mouth...I thought I gave it enough room... Yes, you are looking at the face from underneath; the face is tilted upward, as was previously established. @Everyone: After looking at myself in a mirror, I have some more ideas to try in order to fix some other issues around the neck, which may or may not fix what's already been pointed out. Thanks for the help, and keep it coming. I'll try to make this better over time. < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu" ed="ed">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish Detect language » Hungarian
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Mr.Fahrenheit Commander Joined: 01 April 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 238	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 8:55am
	On the wavy shading thing, If you have worked with contour lines in school, remember that when they show a stream it has the v that points into the direction of flow (downhill). Well the shading with the waves gives a similar appearance that there is a gouge in his forehead like a stream gouged into the land.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 9:05am
	Ok. I think I get what you mean. I did the lower section of the wave to accentuate the protuberance of the superorbital ridge of the face. However the top jagged part of the wave is indeed unecessary. < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu" ed="ed">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish Detect language » Hungarian
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porchpuppy Seaman Joined: 05 June 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 5:47pm
	You started the forum by saying the face would be aggressive, but the title is "smiling man," so it's confusing what emotion you want to portray. I used DAZ 3D to make some comparison faces. I think the emotions read more clearly from a front view rather than a tilted one, because you can't see what the character is mad/happy at. It helps to use grayscale so you can see the highlights, too. I tried to fix the colors to make them less bright (too bright to know where to look), but I had a hard time. Please make a palette on the side to choose the colors that gradually change color and match. I think the head was actually pretty close to the real thing, but the jawbones made the head seem jarring.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 11:22pm
	@porchpuppy: Thank you for the in-depth explanation of the ramifications of how the face looks when happy/angry, but you misunderstood the main idea of this posting. It is, indeed, a smiling man, and, yes,I will be making an angry version of the person in this picture. However, I was not planning on it staying in the same head position. I knew that smiling from an upward view would be fine for smiling. However, I was going to make the angry face with the head tilted down. This would capture the full effect of the scowl more than an upward view since you would looking down on the frown instead of up into it. Also, if you look at my first post, you will notice that his face is caricatured so the OTT cheek muscles are supposed to be there. That was not a anatomical overlook on my part. I liked the bubble-like cheeks; it kind of filled the face for me, even if you can't see the ears much. I really need help on the shading. I'm still having trouble reflecting light appropriately. By the way, I thought I was using the lightest shade sparingly....I have a hard time with leaving some spots blank, so I may need to make some more posts of less-shaded versions to accommodate for that. I understand I have some messed-up shading from the underside of the jaw down, and I really need to work on that. I may post one later on tonight, if I can. I thank you for showing me the jaw's crescent. I did not realize that was there. Or, at least, I never looked at it that way before... All in all, thanks a lot for the help. I'll keep working on it. < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu" ed="ed">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish Detect language » Hungarian
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cure Commander Joined: 23 March 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2859	Posted: 25 July 2013 at 11:48pm
	personally I think the bubble cheekbones look silly and are distracting. if they were located where the actual cheekbones are, it would make a little more sense at least (which is beneath the eye socket, look up the location of the zygomatic bone.) lack of a chin is a little distracting as well. it is risky to abstract the anatomy to such an extreme degree if you aren't first able to describe the anatomy realistically.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 26 July 2013 at 12:30am
	...perhaps I should start over? So far: 1. my colors clash, although the green is nice 2. My shading is messed up and the lightest color is too light. 3. my caricature of the human skull is distracting and silly. 4. The jaw is not pronounced properly or reading directly. All that leaves is the eyes and neck, and we already know the neck sucks. so....should I? EDIT: Actually, let me try fixing the anatomy a little bit. Cure, I understand that the zygomatics sit directly underneath the eyes and the quadratus labii superioris creates the bulge of the cheek bones when smiling. I suppose I have moved a little too far out from underneath the zygomatics. 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porchpuppy Seaman Joined: 05 June 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18	Posted: 26 July 2013 at 2:13am
	I don't think you should give up on trying to make your idea, but I realized this: If you want to animate your drawing and have to explain what you're imagining, you should draw the line art completely animated, THEN shade it after people critique the line art. There's no point in shading one frame from start to end, then having to change everything, and doing that same process for each future frame. Think of each process of waves. Like: Draw head ball moving with sketchy lines (basically the armature) Draw details next Draw secondary animation of the mouth (secondary examples would be like animal ears twitching or a tail wagging) Clean up line art Base color Simple shade all frames Final details It would be disappointing if you didn't finish, since you seemed like you really wanted to finish this project. You did a lot of work, too.
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	Attention, helpers: Since my first face was not planned well, I've decided to start again, this time planning out the face's skeletal and muscular structure a little better. My question to you guys, especially Cure is should I post the new stuff on this post, or kill this one and make a new one? This is not a message stating that I am quitting. Merely a tactical retreat and regroup. I will come back to this and finish it, but my main problem with this, as I am finding out, is my skull is not good enough. Just in case you're worried, I have deleted the picture or anything like that. 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cure Commander Joined: 23 March 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2859	Posted: 26 July 2013 at 12:55pm
	might as well post it here. you can always update the first post with the current image to show your total progress.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 26 July 2013 at 1:40pm
	Alright then. Allow me to do a "Checkpoint pic", to make sure I have, at least the skeletal figure down right. Here's a skull from which I will build the rest. I just did some minimal shading to make sure I have the depth right before I continue. 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	You should make the skull a little narrower, it looks too wide. Furthermore, make sure that the mandible isn't as wide as the rest of the skull, it seems way too wide the way it is now.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 27 July 2013 at 7:30am
	Quick update: < style="height: 80px; width: 444px; border: 1px solid grey; padding: 2px;"><>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="auto" ed="ed">Detect language< value="nl">Dutch< value="en">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish⇄<>< value="af">Afrikaans< value="sq">Albanian< value="ar">Arabic< value="hy">Armenian< value="az">Azerbaijani< value="eu">Basque< value="be">Belarusian< value="bg">Bulgarian< value="ca">Catalan< value="zh-CN">Chinese (Simplified)< value="zh-TW">Chinese (Traditional)< value="hr">Croatian< value="cs">Czech< value="da">Danish< value="nl">Dutch< value="en" ed="ed">English< value="et">Estonian< value="tl">Filipino< value="fi">Finnish< value="fr">French< value="gl">Galician< value="ka">Georgian< value="de">German< value="el">Greek< value="ht">Haitian Creole< value="iw">Hebrew< value="hi">Hindi< value="hu">Hungarian< value="is">Icelandic< value="id">Indonesian< value="ga">Irish< value="it">Italian< value="ja">Japanese< value="ko">Korean< value="la">Latin< value="lv">Latvian< value="lt">Lithuanian< value="mk">Macedonian< value="ms">Malay< value="mt">Maltese< value="no">Norwegian< value="fa">Persian< value="pl">Polish< value="pt">Portuguese< value="ro">Romanian< value="ru">Russian< value="sr">Serbian< value="sk">Slovak< value="sl">Slovenian< value="es">Spanish< value="sw">Swahili< value="sv">Swedish< value="th">Thai< value="tr">Turkish< value="uk">Ukrainian< value="ur">Urdu< value="vi">Vietnamese< value="cy">Welsh< value="yi">Yiddish English (auto-detected) » English Edited by AirStyle - 11 June 2014 at 5:46pm
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porchpuppy Seaman Joined: 05 June 2013 Online Status: Offline Posts: 18	Posted: 27 July 2013 at 10:24am
	From your first skull drawing, it seems to me like you think of the head as a cube. It's not technically wrong to do that, but it might be more helpful to think of it as a cylinder. The second, animated drawing improved a lot more and seems like the face is more arched like a cylinder. I made this animation for you so you can see how the skull works. There is also a profile view so you can see how the neck is bending. The skull doesn't fit the human perfectly because this is a mishmash of my downloaded models. 7__7; http://s599.photobucket.com/user/katt230/media/skull_bend_front_zps02b55081.mp4.html and http://s599.photobucket.com/user/katt230/media/skull_bend_side_zpsb8cabc68.mp4.html The animation is 44 frames long. It is 30 frames per second, and really short. At first, I tried animating it with 30 frames, but it was hard to focus on the face because it was too quick. (I know that doesn't relate to your drawing exactly, but it might give you an idea on speed differences.) I'm not sure, but it looks like your skull is 3-5 frames long. You probably need a couple more to smooth it out, since it's a bit choppy. The top of your skull should be longer/more oblong. It seems round like a sphere instead of slowly becoming longer as the head tilts down. A problem with the jaw you drew is that as it tilts in perspective, it looks like the angled sides of the jaw are becoming round like a grapefruit. The top of the upper teeth are not lowering, either. If you bite into a sandwich and see the arched hole you made, you see that the jaw is more dramatically curved. Think of a cup top, like this diagram. Sorry for rambling so much about this. I'm not sure how realistic you want the drawing to be, but it's good to know how the head works anyway. Hopefully it wasn't too overwhelming. x__x;; I hope your project goes smoothly.
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AirStyle Commander Joined: 13 November 2017 Online Status: Offline Posts: 376	Posted: 27 July 2013 at 10:52am
	@porchpuppy: Thanks for all of this. No, it was not overwhelming, although I find the animation of the bending neck to be difficult to emulate. Thanks for the animation that I can use as a reference for this. I noticed, after Night showed me it was too wide, that I made the face a little too square. I started out with something like this: but then after Night told me to fix it, the frame looked more like this: A much bigger improvement. I went with that to animate the four frames. I feel like i'll need much more to get the effect I want...oh well. continuing happily... I did notice the jawline and the teeth before I posted this. I plan on fixing that immediately. I posted this to make sure I was keeping this updated, and to make sure I was doing it right before I went too far. Thanks again. FOLLOW-UP: How's this? I think the first frame's jaw a little sketchy, but i'm working on it. I'll bend the neck later. 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Night Commander Joined: 29 January 2024 Online Status: Offline Posts: 168	Posted: 27 July 2013 at 12:19pm
	Much better. The eye sockets seem a little too short though, it's quite noticeable at the frame where the skull is virtually in front view.
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