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Quote Maestro Replybullet Posted: 30 August 2005 at 6:40am
No, seriously, Graphics Gale does EVERYTHING I could ever ask for.
It supports any fileformat I could wish for, custom hotkeys, onionskinning, the easiest animation tool (with a realtime preview window) ever created, and creating palettes is almost too easy, though I am not very good at it.
Rightclick + drag is select, which helps with animation sketches, simple rightclick is an eyedropper, and you can adjust all colours when you're done with what you were doing. I don't use that feature, cause I wouldn't get it right either way, but still it is there. What I do use is the replace colour tool, select the colour you wanna replace a secondary and just draw over it with the colour you want it to be, easy as that, and great for contour for example, or the famous selout.
It's fast, starts up in an instant, and hasn't crashed on me once. There is a trial period of thirty days, after that it's 14 Euros.
You COULD say it's a better paint, but even that would'nt do it justice I think. So I'd say, give it a shot, make an animation in it, customize some hotkeys, and you'll see that working with this baby is a breeze.

GG is THE tool for pixel art.
For other things it's GIMP all the way.


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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 03 September 2005 at 6:14pm

GAH! I still don't get it. You're assuming I know how to make the plugin itself work. I don't. I'm a complete tool when it comes to anything resembling programming, and that's what it looks like needs to be done for gimp-gap to work.

And I've tried looking for help. I don't get it, if you're still around, could you explain it to me?

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Quote neota Replybullet Posted: 04 September 2005 at 1:52pm
.. you're on Windows, right?
then you run the installer, and when it's finished, you restart Gimp and the commands are in the Video menu.


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Quote Saboteur Replybullet Posted: 04 September 2005 at 2:45pm
ah, ok. Thanks :)
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Quote space2 Replybullet Posted: 06 September 2005 at 1:57am
Originally posted by neota

Also, the gimp's builtin animation facilities are miniscule compared to the Gimp-GAP plugin, like a peashooter compared to a rocket launcher. Multiple layers per frame, onionskinning, running filters on a range of frames (optionally with varying parameters), moving objects along a path..


Yes, I agree. GIMP is my favourite also, I use it to do all sorts of gfx.

I really like also the dynamic shortcut feature: when the mouse is over a menu item, just press a shortcut key combination, and voili, your new shortcut is set (no need to dig in well hidden options/properties)

Also, when using pixel art, I open/create a new image, usually set also a grid, zoom to ~10x, then View->New, zoom to 1x, view->and deselct selection, border, grid, guides, menu, statusbar, and voili, you have a nice preview window.

Btw, One other very nice program was AutoDesk Animator... R.I.P.

Oh, and one more thing, I do gfx for mobile games, and recently observed, that the laptop's LCD screen is much closer in quality (and tehnology) to the screen of mobile phones, so sometimes I use the a laptop to work on small gfx.
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Quote teej Replybullet Posted: 10 September 2005 at 1:40pm

GRAPHICS GALE: i always use this for my pixel arts, unfortunately i only have the freeware version of it. GG's freeware version locked the GIF functionality. so there's now way you can use and\or produce gifs. well after finishing my work with GG i will import it to photofiltre to do GIFing for me.

PROS = all the tools are perfect for pixel artists, keyboard shortcuts is manageable, processing of PNG is very good, animation is posible (even .avi), the functionality of layers is great.

CONS = none, i dont have problems working with GG. except for the fact that i can't access the GIF functionality. (maybe ill buy this greats software later)   

PHOTOFILTRE (another nice freeware) : not really for pixel arts though. but is also as good a program as GIMP. i like it more than PAINT.net.

ADOBE PHOTOSHOP : very impressive program!!! but i dont use it for pixelling. i rather use it when im going to create full colored large images. but overall, it's the most professional, most expensive also.

MS PAINT : the first ever program i've used, (my first step to pixelling) i love it then but now it lacks some of the feature needed. (can't produce good GIF's, layers). but i still use this for some editing, still as useful i can say (always save your work as BMP when using ms paint).  

UNFREEZE : i use this for making animated GIF's. quite a small program and with small amount of feature. however it is very very useful for quick GIFing.

PIXEL STUDIO : it also has the tools that GraphicsGale has, nice GUI, and the instant isometric tool rocks. though working in pixelling is somewhat different from a standard paint program but you'll get use to it in time. 

PAINT SHOP PRO : i haven't used it.  though i hear a lot of good impressions about this software. (a photoshop rival? is it?)

 

 

 

 



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Quote yobonoc Replybullet Posted: 28 September 2005 at 8:39am

Originally posted by Belle

Graphics Gale owns all your souls.

http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/


For some reason however, it will not post links for me. Damn it's eyes.

hi sorry but, dyo no the english version of this site?

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Quote flyboj Replybullet Posted: 30 September 2005 at 8:01am
Originally posted by yobonoc

Originally posted by Belle

Graphics Gale owns all your souls.

http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/


For some reason however, it will not post links for me. Damn it's eyes.

hi sorry but, dyo no the english version of this site?


try switch to english in website (top right corner)
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Quote PixelGoose Replybullet Posted: 08 October 2005 at 11:42am

I use a trio of programs to make my GIFS:

MSPaint- Excellent program.  Gets better when you know all the hacks to it.  Started on MSPaint, live on it. 

Game Maker- gamemaker.nl  I use this program to start my GIFs.  I go frame by frame.  Bad part is the GIFs don't repeat.

MS GIF Animator- All I use this program for is to edit my GIFs, make them transparent, and repeat. 

 

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Quote ice9 Replybullet Posted: 02 November 2005 at 4:07am
hello there!

here's what i use for pixel art :

on winXP :
    grafx2-win32
    deluxe paint IIe & dp animator
    artgem

on linux :
    the gimp
    kolourpaint

though gimp is not as elegant as the tools i use on xp, which are designed for such kind of tasks, i managed to find a lot of useful functions for palette based gfx into it

i just discovered this small app (for linux):
http://www.btinternet.com/~mark.tyler4/mtpaint/index.html
it has many useful features, and from a "purist" point of view, it has everything you would ever need to do great pixel art (it lacks anti alias, but a real pixel artist doesn't want automatic antialias nor a smooth brush :P ;) )

note : it looks horrible in the original screenshots from mt site, but since it is a gtk app, it is theme-able ... mine looks pretty cool, with a dark clean theme :



icons could be nicer though, lol

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Quote KaZoiTeZ Replybullet Posted: 30 November 2005 at 5:18am
the best i ever know was on aimga Deluxe Paint 2
but now on pc im using gimp and graphics gale
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Quote 0xDB Replybullet Posted: 02 December 2005 at 12:46am
"Personal Paint" from "Cloanto" is also nice.(Amiga)
Even nicer is the fact that it comes with the "AmigaForever" CD, which can be purchased from http://www.amigaforever.com (This is not an ad, i just like that piece of software so much that i thought, i should spread the word.)
It is very similar to "Deluxe Paint III".
Oh and probably i should mention it: I'm using it on the pc, through WinUAE(amiga emulator), which can be configured to have direct access to your pc's harddrive, so working with it, works just like if it was a tool for your pc.
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Quote Psiweapon Replybullet Posted: 19 December 2005 at 4:12pm
Hi to all, this is my first post! First pixel art community I join, since I've only recently started to look into pixel art, though i've been doing pixel art for some time before I even knew what it was!

For me, it has to be GrafX2, with photoshop for handling transparency. In fact, GrafX2 was what triggered my interest for pixel-art, and I haven't needed anything else since... I haven't stepped into animation yet, I must say.
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Quote ZmanZ Replybullet Posted: 22 December 2005 at 5:41pm
I use MS paint, I have Graphics Gale but its not on my XP most used list, so i never really use it. And GIFFY was taken off so if anyone knows any transparency things (except Photoshop, I'm lazy, I don't want to do it manually) please tell me.
Get Paint.NET
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Quote Salim Replybullet Posted: 23 December 2005 at 1:27am
Already tried PixelStudio?

http://pixelstudio.virtualuna.de/

(Look at help, transperency is easy once you know how it works)
http://pixelstudio.virtualuna.de
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2006 at 9:39pm
well nothing beats photoshop, but if you use a MAC give "pixen" a try. it's FREE (open source) and works very well, and does some things even better than photoshop. the canvas size is limmited to 256x256 pixels but you can import art into photoshop. the circle tool makes it worth having. they also offer a free tile maker program that's ok too. don't quite remember the url but google "pixen" and check out the features.

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Quote Leath Replybullet Posted: 17 January 2006 at 6:13am
I think iDraw is still my favorite for pixelart along with photoshop. I tried getting a hang of graphics gale, but their selection tools are just not enough for me, or maybe I couldnt figure how to use it well.

iDraw was a freeware program that came with RPGMaker2k. It is really hard to find it though, so Im hosting the file.
idraw

Pro: Good selection handling
Right Click can be used as eyedrop tool
Easy color manipulation

Con: Only saves and Opens .PNG, .Avi, 258 Bmp files
Can only handle 256 colors
No layers
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Quote Atooi Replybullet Posted: 25 January 2006 at 2:35pm

Pro Motion
I use
Pro Motion for all of my pixel creations. I used to use Deluxe Paint / Deluxe Animation on the Amiga, and have found Pro Motion to be the closest alternative.

 

http://www.cosmigo.com/promotion/

 

Great for:

  • Static pixel art (sprites & tilesets)
  • Animation
  • Palette organization

Photoshop
Once I have a bunch of art assets created (character sprites, tilesets, and backgrounds, HUD, etc.) I like to use
Photoshop to adjust the hue, saturation and contrast of the separate layers. It is a very quick way to modify large objects/layers, rather than adjusting the individual colors in the palette.

 

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 06 February 2006 at 9:04pm
I found a link to this program
Its for Window XP only. Thought you'd like to know :D
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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 26 March 2006 at 12:59am
I've only ever used MS Paint, and graphics gale. The only use I've found for graphics gale was animation :P. I also use IrfranView from time to time to quickly add a transp. background, it's as simple as copying the image, opening irfanview, paste, save, and it asks you for the transp. color then :).

ProMotion seems nice. I may have to look into that. Never noticed this thread before ^_^
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Quote tuaarita Replybullet Posted: 16 April 2006 at 7:31am
i use paintshoppro9 but i dont get the layers, they were easier in #7 that i used to use.

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Quote Grindie Replybullet Posted: 07 May 2006 at 9:39am
Since I started pixelling, I've only used 1 program: iDraw. It's really simple and has everything I need. I don't see the point in learning a beast like Photoshop just to pixel.

I can't find any links to iDraw, so I uploaded it to my server if anyone wants to check it out.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/thomas.mccloskey/misc/iDraw.rar
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Quote edbox Replybullet Posted: 20 May 2006 at 4:22pm
Like Atooie, I use daily Promotion / Photoshop at work.

I use mainly Promotion to draw and animate, make tilesets, and Photoshop to adjust the colors, contrast...etc.
Photoshop is also quite handy to save in a limited amount of colors "Save for web" thing.
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Quote Biopharmer Replybullet Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:50pm
ughh... i just wish there was a program to do it all in! on my pc i use
mspaint and adobe imageredy, but imageready sux

A little while ago i looked into promotion seems nice but i'd rather
have the full rather than the lite one.

As far as uploading to the web... my Mac OS 9.1 is the only friggin'
computer in my house with internet!!!

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Quote tomic Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2006 at 10:41am

i'm a bit surprised that noone here has mentioned "grafX2" yet.. so: GRAFX2!(ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/resources/graphics/gfx2b965.zip)

i'm using it for like 95% of my works (the rest is good old deluxe paint IIe); although it is an 'old' dos-program, it perfectly runs under xp (and there are even win32 clones abvailable).. nearly only pros in this program:

- supports all classic filetypes (.gif, .pcx, .lbm etc.)

- drawing without wasting time to move your mouse to the buttons/palette/whatever as you've got customizable keys for every single function and even to move up/down through the palette (nice if you've only got 16 colors or so) or brushstyles.. so you just needa press the on key with your left hand to switch to the funtion you need (like line, single pixel, rectanle, floodfill, drawing etc.) and can go on pixeling whereever your right hand/mouse has been five seconds ago.. i'm mostly switching between 'draw' and 'pipette' and use the scrolling through palette thingy, especially when doing aa where this is hell effective!

- nice features like stencil or sieve (real favourite if you like checkerboard-dithering and wasted lot of time in this in recent years =)

a few cons:

- doesn't have layers (for those who need'em - i grew up without =)

- no automatic aa to switch on/off while drawing a line for example (again: for those who need'em, i don't except if i'm short in time, then i'm switching to deluxe paint for a minute)

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Quote tomic Replybullet Posted: 23 June 2006 at 10:51am

needa add, that due to the cutomizable-keys-thingy, you can hide the menubar and draw without any annoying menu around.. 

looks very insane if you're pixeling in public ..  like pro-mode in 3ds max (for those who know)

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Quote Biopharmer Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 2:54pm
that does sound pretty cool! does it do animation?

you guys should try the thingy by that guy, pixel studio it's pretty
cool, it has like automatic isometric box, pyramid, sphere, rectangle,
square etc. tools, and animation and layers, and transperancys, but i
cant get the transperancy to work, because the software is still
obviously in a beta phase, but i think it'll be hella' tight when a stable
copy comes out, it's open source i think,
get it here

have you tried MTPaint, search it on google, it looks good,

but i'm still looking for a legit mac os 9.2 pixel program... keep me
posted!

(p.s. seriously try pixel studio, it rox)
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Quote Biopharmer Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 4:15pm
here are some misc. painting programs i found (open source):
tile driller
kolour
paint

mtpaint (made for pixel
art)
Graphics Magick
gifsicle

some may or may not be binary versions, so you may have to do a
bit of compiling

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Quote Shark Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 5:56pm
if you want a mac program try pixen.
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Quote Setzer Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 8:09pm
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i'm a bit surprised that noone here has mentioned "grafX2" yet.. so: GRAFX2!(ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/resources/graphics/gfx2b965.zip)

i'm using it for like 95% of my works (the rest is good old deluxe paint IIe); although it is an 'old' dos-program, it perfectly runs under xp (and there are even win32 clones abvailable).. nearly only pros in this program:

- supports all classic filetypes (.gif, .pcx, .lbm etc.)

- drawing without wasting time to move your mouse to the buttons/palette/whatever as you've got customizable keys for every single function and even to move up/down through the palette (nice if you've only got 16 colors or so) or brushstyles.. so you just needa press the on key with your left hand to switch to the funtion you need (like line, single pixel, rectanle, floodfill, drawing etc.) and can go on pixeling whereever your right hand/mouse has been five seconds ago.. i'm mostly switching between 'draw' and 'pipette' and use the scrolling through palette thingy, especially when doing aa where this is hell effective!

- nice features like stencil or sieve (real favourite if you like checkerboard-dithering and wasted lot of time in this in recent years =)

a few cons:

- doesn't have layers (for those who need'em - i grew up without =)

- no automatic aa to switch on/off while drawing a line for example (again: for those who need'em, i don't except if i'm short in time, then i'm switching to deluxe paint for a minute)



Actually I downloaded that the other day. I love the fullscreen view of it, although it has many tools I don't have a use for, and I can't figure out the most important hotkeys :x [to go through the pallete; that's the main thing I love about pro motion]. It wasn't until you posted that the hotkeys were configurable that I decided to browse through the directory. I might be using this more often than I thought now :). I'd say another con is for those who're spoiled by hue/sat/brightness, it doesn't seem to be here in this application.

edit: It seems the hotkeys actually are [ and ] to move through the pallete; but for whatever reason, those keys are not working and I have no idea why?

another edit:
 seems that after changing them around they work fine. just not sure why they wont work for the []{} keys.


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Quote neota Replybullet Posted: 17 August 2006 at 6:47pm
I can't figure out the most important hotkeys :x [to go through the pallete; that's the main thing I love about pro motion]

That feature was also in DeluxePaint, which Is probably the origin of grafx2's and ProMotion's support for the feature. I believe they all use the same keys
(the square brackets) to move through the palette.
The windows version of Grafx2 seems to have the keyboard shortcuts broken. Did you mean that you downloaded Grafx2, or that you downloaded that particular file?

Since 2.3.9, GIMP has supported moving through the palette or image colormap, just like those three programs. In GIMP, these next/prev color actions are mapped to 9/0 (ie the parentheses). There are also other actions that you can assign shortcuts to -- for instance you can skip through the palette 4 colors at once, go to first or last color in palette.
I coded this feature. (it does require that you have the palette editor or colormap editor open.)

You can get Windows binaries of 2.3.9 from
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=121075


MTPaint also supports moving through the palette colors, though it seems linux-only.

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Quote Salim Replybullet Posted: 18 August 2006 at 2:53am
Hi,
I still like PixelStudio best. I can make Animations with it (GIF), transparency, opacity, grids, and many other things are no problem. Many Fileformats and high quality! The Application had a bug and didnt work for a time, but one can download an update now from http://pixelstudio.virtualuna.de (btw, it's free)


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Quote sinkquick Replybullet Posted: 21 August 2006 at 6:47am
I'm a Macintosh user. I personally use Pixen. It's a free program made for pixel artists. Pixen.

Pros: It's free. You can save in basically any format. You can using unlimited layers and have transparent filters.

Cons: Since it is an opensource program, there are still some bugs here and there. But these do get updated often.

I'm affraid Pixen isn't available for the Windows OS at this present time. But I highly recommend it for any Mac user interested in Pixel Art!
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Quote ulbandi Replybullet Posted: 16 September 2006 at 11:16am
Yeah, I use Pixen as well. It's decent. Basically:

Pros
Free!
Made specifically for pixel art
Layers
Export to lots of image formats

Cons
Doesn't handle images over 256x256 well
Color selection interface is a little clumsy IMHO
Slightly buggy and often slow

I tend to do my basic lineart/colors in Pixen and then finish it up in Photoshop.
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Quote Pmac Replybullet Posted: 17 September 2006 at 6:49am
Hello, I need a program that will allow me to transform a colour used throughout the whole art into a different colour.

For instance, if I drew a blue ball, I could change the exact blue on the palette to green, and from there, the entire ball would be updated in that green.

GraphicsGale supports this on 8-bit colour? But anything 16-bit or above would be very helpful. Thanks.
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 17 September 2006 at 6:52am
Pmac, Animationshop 3 has a very useful colour replacement tool. I got the program in a bundle with PSP8, so i'm not sure how easy it is to get it seperately. I'm sure there's other programs that do it aswel though. Good luck in your search.
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Quote ceddo Replybullet Posted: 19 October 2006 at 5:17am
Originally posted by sedgemonkey

Sometimes pixels along the borders of images don't respond to eraser or pencil.


Still a con as one needs to change the default settings to do this, but you can prevent this by turning off Snap in the View tab. This way, Photoshop won't automatically snap your lines, selections.. etc to the border, to gridlines, or to guides. It was extremely annoying for me until i looked around and solved it.

Originally posted by jalonso

...but if you use a MAC give "pixen" a try. it's FREE (open source) and works very well...

I have pixen, but it doesn't work at all for me! Whenever I create a new document and use the pencil, nothing appears. I tried importing an existing png document, and it worked, but nothing works when I create one myself.

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Quote silent sniper Replybullet Posted: 10 November 2006 at 7:59pm
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Paint.NET
PROS:
I've never used it, but I hear it's less powerful than Photoshop, but better than most programs out there. My guess is that it's somewhere around Graphics Gale level.
CONS:
Never used it, never heard any complaints. Mustn't be too bad.
Paint.NET is by far the easiest program EVER. and is still pretty powerful and rocks with pixel art.
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Quote Christopher Replybullet Posted: 10 February 2007 at 7:35pm
I cant figure out how to make the background transparent for an animation using any of those
Other then graphicsgale. My shareware ran out. -.-
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 10 February 2007 at 7:44pm
I don't know of a free one for PCs. www.iaza.com does single frames. Photoshop Elements is very cheap and even comes free with some stuff.
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Quote Jonathan Replybullet Posted: 10 March 2007 at 11:59am
Yea I know this is an old topic....
But I have a question, I dont have Photoshop and I use MS Paint for pixeling, but now I wanna try to make an Animated GIF.
My question is: Does anyone knows a simple programme (like unfreez), and supports .PNG or .BMP....
 
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 27 March 2007 at 8:26am
Originally posted by Dejital

And one for Animation Shop.

Animation Shop Pros
This is of the most popular animation programs because it comes free with Paint Shop Pro (Trial or Full Version), has a very easy interface, and has fun little effects. The program's interface is very simple (think MS Paint). Startup is instant. There aren't that many effects, but there are pretty much enough of them already. Transition effects include fading, which is all an animator pretty much needs. To make an animation, you simply copy and paste images into the program, which makes animation as easy as ever.

Animation Shop Cons
Some effects (like Shaky Cam) get overused by newbies. When working with an image with transparency, pasting an image that has space around it (space that is unused), the program automatically takes out the space to make them image tightly in place. Sometimes you have to trick the program by adding a pixel at each corner and erasing the trick pixels once the image has been pasted.
 
that's easy to solve: first paste the image you will use as a new animation and then paste it into the desired sequence. ASP3 will respect the transparencies and original size, even if it's bigger than the original.
 
 
i'll add some Pros and Cons
 
Animation Shop 3 PROS
The Propagate Paste Feature, wich allows you to insert an entire animation into another, without losing any of them. also, it comes with a handy Onion Skin to check diferences between frames. ah! and the most important: you can easy edit a frame, or an entire animation in Paint shop pro by just select it and press sh*t+X, and then send it back to ASP3 updated. also, supports custom palettes.
 
Animation Shop 3 CONS
The brush tool is, by default, antialiased in sizes over 3x. that's such a pain of you're using this for static Pixels. it doesn't have any shortcuts for the tools, and the 'gif optimizer' that comes with the program tends to fail sometimes, and ruin your picture by replacing unsoported colors.
 
Originally posted by Larwick

Pmac, Animationshop 3 has a very useful colour replacement tool. I got the program in a bundle with PSP8, so i'm not sure how easy it is to get it seperately. I'm sure there's other programs that do it aswel though. Good luck in your search.
 
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Quote hiei14 Replybullet Posted: 15 April 2007 at 4:55pm
I use Artweaver for pixel art.
I'm still messing around with Gimp.
I still don't know how to make pixel art with it.
I've made some sweet CG'ddrawing with it tho.
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Quote Mathias Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2007 at 9:05am
I use Photoshop for everything.
 
Only problem I have is an actual size view window so I can see a WIP at normal size while zoomed in working; can't seem to find a solution for that.


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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 24 April 2007 at 8:53pm
What? Graphics Gale is no longer freeware!?
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 25 April 2007 at 4:07pm
there is a Freeware version of GG, but doesn't have support for GIF format(static and animated).
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Quote ZeroFive1 Replybullet Posted: 25 April 2007 at 6:27pm
I use MS paint. Graphics Gale killed me with it's complexity. Wah.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 26 April 2007 at 11:21am
did you noticed? MS paint is THE ONLY ONE that let's you use three colors at the same time
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Quote Vidd Replybullet Posted: 26 April 2007 at 2:20pm
What do you mean?
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Quote dragonrc Replybullet Posted: 26 April 2007 at 11:41pm
right click gives you a color
left click gives you a color
ctrl+ right or left click gives you a color
 
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