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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 03 April 2021 at 3:05am
Something else I'd like to depict if I can nab some more edge space eventually, is the fountain of youth.

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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 03 April 2021 at 9:22am
Wip of #3 :)

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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 03 April 2021 at 11:34am
@Mirre; As good as it possibly can be.

@cjlm123; many people in a small space look good in collabs.
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 03 April 2021 at 12:52pm
@Mirre, two heads rocks!


@Sazdx, this is what I intended more or less, but if you canít make it work just go with yours and I will adjust my tile later.

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Quote jeremy Replybullet Posted: 03 April 2021 at 4:46pm
Can I reserve 53?
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 04 April 2021 at 2:12am
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Can I reserve 53?


Surely
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Quote Krugelix Replybullet Posted: 04 April 2021 at 4:42am

I'd like to give 66 a try, but i cant get the triceratop skull right.
Any suggestions?
The Idea is a Knight, who thinkgs about the skull, if it was a Dragon.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 04 April 2021 at 6:43am
@Kurgelix as a matter of fact i have drawn  an isometric triceratops in a previous collab.

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Quote SeDiceBisonte Replybullet Posted: 04 April 2021 at 9:23am
Little WIP update of 49. Been a busy week again but I'm aiming for the next post to be the final one (or at least it'll be finished enough that someone can work on its neighbours):


Now with stained glass and the start of some roof beams!

@Mirre: That dragon looks amazing! I love that he's picking up the little peasant who's stealing the egg. Great story there.

@Krugelix: Love the concept of your tile!
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Quote Sazdx Replybullet Posted: 04 April 2021 at 11:16am
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@Mirre, two heads rocks!


@Sazdx, this is what I intended more or less, but if you canít make it work just go with yours and I will adjust my tile later.

Lovely! I'll adapt it into it and tweak it ^^!
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Quote Eggy Replybullet Posted: 04 April 2021 at 2:17pm
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I'd like to give 66 a try, but i cant get the triceratop skull right.
Any suggestions?
The Idea is a Knight, who thinkgs about the skull, if it was a Dragon.

References, references, references! References are super helpful!
When you struggle like I do sometimes, it helps to look up terms on Google Images that match what you're trying to do. E.g. "triceratops skull", which is what you want to do. Here's an example:

(just so happens to be from a game I like to play!)
And another one behind this link that's too big to embed on the forums as is.
I use the same method to work on my own tile, especially as I'm not at all familiar with buildings so references (and some common sense) help me a whole lot to depict Gargamel's house to the best of my abilities. Hopefully images like these can help you make the triceratops skull, of course within the iso perspective as well (these are just some examples I picked out) :)
Hope this helps!
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Quote marcelcomics Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 12:02am
Superb work ! Love the troll.

Sorry that I messed up the geometry to start with but you definitely fixed it.

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How about this?


(I think I'd like 29 if it's available)


Edit:
hmm, the troll kind of looks like stinky from The Moomins.
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 1:15am
@Gecimen, @gawrone, @SeDiceBisonte: Thank you!

@SeDiceBisonte: #49 is coming along so nicely!



Originally posted by cjlm123


Tile 59:
@cjlm123: Such a well made tile, and it continues the neighbouring tiles perfectly. I'd, personally, really like to see what you could come up with that's to do with the medieval theme to add to this tile. Something small would really make this tile fun! Like a sword in a stone, a fallen knight, or fairies, or something.
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 1:52am
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@Gecimen, @gawrone, @SeDiceBisonte: Thank you!

@SeDiceBisonte: #49 is coming along so nicely!



Originally posted by cjlm123


Tile 59:
@cjlm123: Such a well made tile, and it continues the neighbouring tiles perfectly. I'd, personally, really like to see what you could come up with that's to do with the medieval theme to add to this tile. Something small would really make this tile fun! Like a sword in a stone, a fallen knight, or fairies, or something.



Maybe just a hand of the lady of the lake with a shiny sword?
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 2:23am
@Gawrone

Was literally jsut about to suggest a strange woman lying in a pond, distributing swords as a basis for a system of government.



Might work on that once I've finished tile 29.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 6:10am
Tile 29:


Perhaps I'll add a little guy sitting on the riverbank.

Update:


Let's call it done
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 1:40pm
Looking great!
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 1:55pm
Can I reserve 17?
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 05 April 2021 at 2:50pm
Update of #3:


Starting to get somewhere!
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Quote Gen_void Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 1:57am
Can i reserve 45?

This is going wonderfullll
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 2:44am
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Can I reserve 17?


17 doesn't have any complete neighbors yet, may I give you another tile?
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 2:47am
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Can i reserve 45?

This is going wonderfullll


Hello Gen_void, if you have the energy, can you check out the critique on your previous tile and apply them, before reserving another tile?
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Quote Irenaart Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 4:20am
Hmmm... I'll wait a bit with my corner tile #91 to see what Sazdx would do with her #76. I donít want to rush with my concept until I know what sheís going to do, at least roughly
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 7:23am
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17 doesn't have any complete neighbors yet, may I give you another tile?


Oh, My bad, I thought diagonals counted, but I was mistaking the self adjacency restriction for the neighbour restriction - 18 then?

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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 9:18am
it's yours :)
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Quote Gen_void Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 10:11am
I have done it a few pages ago.
Iīll repost here again.

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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 12:19pm
Originally posted by Gen_void

I have done it a few pages ago.
Iīll repost here again.




I think that you did not add much of the improvement suggestions you have received recently and you seem to be arbitrary choosing which of them you try to apply and which you decide to ignore.

All the users try to help as much as they can, and of course you are not obliged to use that, but the mods, besides helping, also have to supervise the overall quality of the final image.

Becasue participants vary from complete beginners to ultimate pros, the quality of all tiles will be obviously different, but everyone have to put to their tiles as much as they possibly can acording to their skill level.

If the mod is requesting more revisions from you it means they belive in you, that you definately can do better. Rushing to the next tile before perfecting the actual one - within the boundaries of your abilities - would be a waste for the collab and for you.

I was a beginner in previous collab two years ago, and I was trying to pay attention to every feedback I got, even if that resulted in some tiles looking much different than I thought they should, but thanks to that I've learned a lot during the whole collab.

From what I see I think that adding the yellow aura is not a good choice, but you got many suggestion you haven't yet tried to add, like shadows or  demon's perspective fixes.
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Quote Gen_void Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 1:20pm
I applied all the suggestions, the horned gxd perspective even i think you ignored that moment. I took all the suggestions and added the aura and didnít recieved a feedback or whatever, that was the other week even.

If its fine mods, tell me, this is getting frustrating and sad
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 2:29pm
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I applied all the suggestions, the horned gxd perspective even i think you ignored that moment. I took all the suggestions and added the aura and didnít recieved a feedback or whatever, that was the other week even.

If its fine mods, tell me, this is getting frustrating and sad


Noone here is trying to attack you. I hope you're not feeling sad because of the feedback. I understand it's frustrating to have to come back and revise a piece of art, but it's honestly only meant to help you get better. It's not meant as an attack on you or your art. This is also a forum thread where comments can be quite fast-paced at times, and we might miss entries by other participants. Instead of going into defensive mode, you can just ask what part you might have missed, or we missed?

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but English is not your mother tongue, is that right? In that case we also understand if there are misunderstandings along the way. (It's not mine either, btw.)

When I started with pixel art as a teen, I received sooo much c&c (constructive criticism) and at times it was a little overwhelming and tough to accept some of it. It could feel like someone was ripping apart my work that I was proud of, but in the end I learnt so much from trying and applying the advice that I got.

My only advice right now, is just go back to the comments that were left for you and see if you might have missed something, or if you didn't try to apply some of the feedback you got.
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Quote Christoballs Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 3:03pm

Now the difficult question is, what do I put in here? I really want to do something with that kid's head, but I'll be thinking about the rest more.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 3:13pm
@christoballs

Maybe you could get some inspiration from the plot of the fairytale?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Billy_Goats_Gruff

Is the brown part at the top meant to be an earthen riverbank? Not sure if my tile up there reads well enough, but the bank is that ~8px high blue/black rocky material.
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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 3:15pm
@Christoballs: also include the third goat/kid! :D
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Quote Quiara Replybullet Posted: 06 April 2021 at 3:41pm
Oh god oh god, this is extending far past what I expected. I think I'm just going to tentatively withdraw my claim on tile 80. :(
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 2:32am
I've been sick for awhile, but I was struggling with 16 even before then. I had in mind a kind of enchanted castle garden but it wasn't quite coming together. Might scrap it all.
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 3:58am
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I made an edit for you, to show how you can make the demon closer to isometric. Also added some grass texture, fixed the shadows + added the end of a stairs to connect with the tiles #4 and #19.



Originally posted by Gen_void

I applied all the suggestions

Gen_void; no need to be sad. You're saying you applied all the suggestions but on the edit I made for you (you can see on page 6) I guess you didn't see the perspective change I made on the demon and the shadows and the texture on the ground. You only added the stairs. I saw this and I told you:

Originally posted by Gecimen

gen_void; i'm assuming you don't want to work on your tile further, I don't mean to force you to death so I'm adding your tile to the main image but if you have the will and time; polish this tile further before grabbing another.

You can also find this comment on page 6. I guess you didn't see this either.
We're trying to help you get better. If you refuse our help, that's not a "collaboration".
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 4:01am
@Christoballs; maybe a baby in a basket or another river related myth?

@Reo; that's coming along great actually, I really like crowded tiles.
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Quote Krugelix Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 4:37am
@Gecimen and Eggy, thank you for your help. The triceratops from last colab is amazing.
But i couln't really replicate it/fit it into the tile.
So i tried a different idea: Is it readable?



The Frog Prince (and also some ducks and a fox hunting a heron).

I'm open for suggestions and tipps. Dont know if i should put something on the bridge...
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 4:46am
@Krugelix; the moment I saw your tile I said to myself, how did I never think of this :D
If you mean (by readable) the princess kissing a frog and a fox is jumping on a white bird, they are readable. Though a few more border-ish pixels would help define the white bird, it would be cool, not mandatory, though.
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Quote Nitbe Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 6:15am
I want to cancel #13

Because of work, there is no time to finish
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 6:39am
@krugelix

I really like all the ideas depicted, but there's a really inconsistent treatment with the outlines. I reckon it would read much more harmoniously if the different characters/animals had outlines more like the Princess.
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 7:55am

Alright! Getting somewhere, might require some help from Chris to base it! Gonna move the unicorn and not quite happy about the tower.

Also I must say that I am amazed by the progress here! When I did the palette I sort of imagined it as very grim dark and was unsure how well it would be suited for bright, whimsical fantasy but you've really shown how that is was way more versatile than I thought!
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 8:29am
WIP of 18


Based on a classic "zwiebelturm"



Update:


I think I'll add a window and call it done, unless anyone has suggestions.
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 9:32am
@cjm123: Really great spire! Great job indicating the texture! Tiniest of critiques would be that the background trees look a bit flat like cardboard when the roots all end parallel to each other.


There's room for a character or an animal as well! Maybe something fun from those medieval marginals? Even just a rabbit would add some charm :)
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Quote gawrone Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 9:54am
Originally posted by Krugelix

@Gecimen and Eggy, thank you for your help. The triceratops from last colab is amazing.
But i couln't really replicate it/fit it into the tile.
So i tried a different idea: Is it readable?
The Frog Prince (and also some ducks and a fox hunting a heron).
I'm open for suggestions and tipps. Dont know if i should put something on the bridge...




There was an idea of putting GoT characters on the bridge. You can leave your part of the bridge empty now and get back to it when GoT mini collab get some form.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 10:23am
Thanks for the feedback.
I think tile 18 is done

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Quote Mirre Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 10:58am
#3 finished:
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 11:34am
@Reo: you can use the empty pixels of Christoballs' tile as you want. It's in the rules.

@cjlm123: you depicted the tower perfectly, different architecture really shines!

@Mirre: I love every pixel of this!
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Quote Reo Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 11:47am
Stunning detail and color usage Mirre! Wow!

@Gecimen: Oh right! Good, good.
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Quote cjlm123 Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 11:56am
May I claim 2?
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Quote Gecimen Replybullet Posted: 07 April 2021 at 12:05pm
@cjlm123: sure, itís always good to see pieces come together :)
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