Pixel Joint Forum: Run/Walk cycle (Now with added jump)

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Shall I Run?
here is a run cycle i am working on.  

its 12 frames, and anyone is free to use the lines for it...

here is my progress:

(psst, ^^^ his past is catching up with him. )

FINAL

REALLY...  THIS IS THE FINAL, I SWEAR!

Nah, I'll walk...
now im doing a walk...

progress

FINAL:

FINAL FINAL VERSION

JUMP JUMP JUMP
And now, to continue my "human movement study"...

FINAL 1:

Edited by Ensellitis - 07 June 2007 at 3:26am

WIP (Work In Progress)
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Topic: Run/Walk cycle (Now with added jump) Posted: 01 June 2007 at 8:15am
	Shall I Run? here is a run cycle i am working on. its 12 frames, and anyone is free to use the lines for it... here is my progress: (psst, ^^^ his past is catching up with him. ) FINAL REALLY... THIS IS THE FINAL, I SWEAR! Nah, I'll walk... now im doing a walk... progress FINAL: FINAL FINAL VERSION JUMP JUMP JUMP And now, to continue my "human movement study"... FINAL 1: Edited by Ensellitis - 07 June 2007 at 3:26am
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Feron Midshipman Joined: 17 September 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 8:59am
	that's awesome, look forward for more progress.
	hmmmm.
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grave Commander Joined: 27 November 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 127	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 10:24am
	Really smooth. But instead of removing frames to make it faster. Why not change the frame speed :)
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pixelblink Commander Joined: 19 February 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2865	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 10:29am
	I think you could easily fix his shoulders. Right now they're pretty stiff... think of his shoulder joints as being on a T-bar to his body, rocking side to side. This would give it more character and flow Edit: that would also apply to the hips Edited by pixelblink - 01 June 2007 at 11:32am
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 2:13pm
	Ok its not walking very realistic... Most people who are running, do exactly the same thing with there left leg as their right leg.. Paste it in your GIF editor, and watch every frame. I did not make edits, but I have added some lines.. From frame 3 to 4, the leg moves just a bit up... the left leg.. frame 9 to 10, it not only moves up, but it also moves to the left alot.. Now the first frame he is released from the ground he hits the line.. thats the farrest point he will ever get.. for the other leg, that happens in frame 5, thats the second frame after the release from the ground.. also that moment the other leg is at his farrest point at the right.. thats not the case in frame 10.. From frame 5 to 6, the right leg moves down alot and alot to the left... on frame 11 to 12, it doesnt have to move that far down.... This way there are many many more things you can see, that are wrong.. chech the arms too.. they should be doing the same too.. You can just create 1 leg and then copy that and put it in another layer with 6 frames difference on the front of it... Because now, there is soo much difference, its not hard to see the light blue leg is way to long in air when its on the right.. and it moves too fast to the left.. the dark blue leg is pretty good, but it looks like its size is changed a bit at frame 5..
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 6:52pm
	not true. not everyones movements are mirrored. there are many many many factors that prevent that. most people do not run the same. i prefer to keep this more realistic than like typical art where everything is done once then copied. update thanks pb, i will tweak it a bit to make his shoulders/hips roll a bit more
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Kfuchoin Commander Joined: 11 March 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 740	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 7:19pm
	12 freames the animation is so smooth :O just for fun i did what you said.. erased that frames and made it faster result: nothing to say.. i just hope to see the final result. Edited by Kfuchoin - 01 June 2007 at 7:20pm
	may the pixels be with you.. ~Kfuchoin eMo looking for people for an RPG info: http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4903
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ZeroFive1 Midshipman Joined: 15 April 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 76	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 7:26pm
	Pretty awesome. What bothers me though is that the figure does not move up or down, but stays at the same height.
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 01 June 2007 at 7:31pm
	added bounce and started coloring... edit: clothes dont expect updates for atleast a day, i cant draw faces at this angle for sh*t Edited by Ensellitis - 02 June 2007 at 12:41am
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Mykola Commander Joined: 22 September 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 195	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 1:16am
	@lollige: "most people do EXACTLY the same thing with both feet/legs?" WRONG. don't you know about having a strong foot? you obviously never played a second of basketball (or futbol for that matter) in your life. everybody has one foot stronger than the other, and the footstrike of your strong foot is ALWAYS different, whether you're playing ball, running or even walking. @ens: if ya don't wanna draw the face, why not draw him in some crazy ass mask? a la robocop or casey jones.. or something inbetween? LOL really it'd look cool at this angle :D.
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 1:27am
	*Originally posted by Mykola* @lollige: "most people do EXACTLY the same thing with both feet/legs?" WRONG. don't you know about having a strong foot? you obviously never played a second of basketball (or futbol for that matter) in your life. everybody has one foot stronger than the other, and the footstrike of your strong foot is ALWAYS different, whether you're playing ball, running or even walking. hmm.. You are right, I have a strong foot and a bad one.. but I still think, that his left leg (the one on the back, the darker now, that was the lightest before) is hovering too long above the ground when its allmost going to be placed on ground.. if you are looking only to that leg, and not to the whole thing I get the feeling it almost freezes for a very short time..
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:20am
	ok, face didnt take as long as i thought :P removed a pointless frame, too. so 11 frame run cycle now Edited by Ensellitis - 02 June 2007 at 2:22am
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 3:02am
	*Originally posted by Ensellitis* ok, face didnt take as long as i thought :P removed a pointless frame, too. so 11 frame run cycle now ah now it doesnt "freeze" anymore :) Howeevr his right arm (his right) is moving pretty weird when going to the left (our left) His upper arm is going too high. try to do that with your own arm.. not possible...
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 3:20am
	considering my ref is me running my last pt test, then yes, it is im already working on the jumpiness
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 3:33am
	Besides the somewhat scarey-emotionless face.. it's the sex.

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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 3:49am
	update. and lol at the first post. looks like a marathon Edited by Ensellitis - 02 June 2007 at 3:58am
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dragonrc Commander Joined: 05 May 2006 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 294	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 4:06am
	Looks very good. I don't really like how the head moves though, people don't turn their heads that much when running. You should put less movement in it. Also, watch the back arm when it turns back, I think that could use some work. It doesn't look as smooth as the other arm.
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Mykola Commander Joined: 22 September 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 195	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 4:25am
	I like the head movement now, he looks like he's out to just maim somebody! LOL really, it looks cool :). Edited by Mykola - 02 June 2007 at 4:25am
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zeid Midshipman Joined: 16 January 2025 Online Status: Offline Posts: 46	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 5:25am
	The head moves a little much from side to side. Also the body remains pinned in the air, watch the pelvis there should be some gravity applied as well as recoil (think springs). Apart from those crits everything looks nice
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 02 June 2007 at 10:39am
	ok, im calling this done. i got it down to what i wanted it to be. thanks for the help all
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 4:12am
	now, on with the walk... steve is a pimp... his walk proves this fact
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Di0xygen Commander Joined: 03 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 401	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 8:28am
	He walks like a teen, I rekon a normal human would not bounce as much while walking. Headache much? :P
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 9:02am
	they do whilst in the middle of big ball'n :P
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Mykola Commander Joined: 22 September 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 195	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 9:59am
	LOL love the walking strut. somebody give him a goddamn cane and a feather hat LOL!
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 11:23am
	update on walk: fixed a hug ass error i some how made with the legs...
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dragonrc Commander Joined: 05 May 2006 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 294	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 11:57am
	It looks very good. I noticed a few things though, I think you shouldn't let the foot bend that much on the following frames: And the knees look a bit to high, I think it would look much better if it were a pixel or 2 lower in some frames. Also, I think that you should stiffen the hand a bit. It looks very loose now. Although it might be this way because the hands are still a sketch.
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leel Commander Joined: 29 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3001	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 2:58pm
	holy crap that run is awesome! wtg :D
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 2:59pm
	update. thanks dragon, updated it... removed much of his "Strut" and fixed a few other errors
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ZeroFive1 Midshipman Joined: 15 April 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 76	Posted: 03 June 2007 at 3:41pm
	That looks great!
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 04 June 2007 at 1:10am
	HE IS NINJA! NINJA IS NINJA! NINJA KILL YOU NO TOLERATE DISRESPECT! SUPER HAPPY FUN TIME HOUR NINJA TIME... in conclusion, he is a urban ninja...
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 6:57am
	Now he must jump... this one is going to be a bitch, so anyone's 2 cents is welcome delays in frames IS INTENTIONAL Edited by Ensellitis - 06 June 2007 at 6:59am
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 7:16am
	what do you mean with 2 cents? However, I have no idea whats ur refference, but I have one for you :p http://www.urban-style.nl/nl/news/lessons.php?itemid=62
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 8:49am
	*Originally posted by Lollige* what do you mean with 2 cents? ..you're an idiot.

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Di0xygen Commander Joined: 03 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 401	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 8:52am
	*Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Lollige* what do you mean with 2 cents? ..you're an idiot. wow skull that was such a constructive post... -- The jump is nice but i would suggest looking a prince of persia or flashback references, your jumps is nice but maybe a bit exagerrated. Or maybe film you jumping then retroscope it with pixelart.
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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 10:03am
	*Originally posted by Di0xygen* *Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Lollige* what do you mean with 2 cents? ..you're an idiot. wow skull that was such a constructive post... It really was.. wasn't it. :) The basic animation so far looks great, the bent knees and partial bentness before the jump - all good.

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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 10:17am
	update
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zeid Midshipman Joined: 16 January 2025 Online Status: Offline Posts: 46	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 10:23am
	At a low frame rate it looks ok. But... the arm motion is really, really exaggerated. He looks more like he is focusing on swinging his arms then gaining momentum for the jump. There is also some choppiness in the leg motion. But it is looking good. These make a really nice showcase of animation great work so far. Try a spot jump, you wont bring your arms above your head, it feels fairly unnatural. Edited by zeid - 06 June 2007 at 10:26am
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 11:43am
	removed the frame with arms coming over head... added heads on some frames, now trying to redo angles of the head for the others
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 12:41pm
	*Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Di0xygen* *Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Lollige* what do you mean with 2 cents? ..you're an idiot. wow skull that was such a constructive post... It really was.. wasn't it. :) The basic animation so far looks great, the bent knees and partial bentness before the jump - all good. now I still dont have an answer.. yes I know a cent is a 100/ts dollar/euro/whatever, but I dont think ens meant he want 2 cent from us..
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dragonrc Commander Joined: 05 May 2006 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 294	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 12:45pm
	Here is a rough edit of frame 5, you don't really stretch out your arms like that before you jump. I don't really like how the shoes shrink in the last few frames. Also, I don't really like the arms in the frames 2, 6, 9 and 11, I think they should be closer to eachother. I really like these animations, keep up the good work
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Di0xygen Commander Joined: 03 July 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 401	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 1:00pm
	*Originally posted by Lollige* *Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Di0xygen* *Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Lollige* what do you mean with 2 cents? ..you're an idiot. wow skull that was such a constructive post... It really was.. wasn't it. :) The basic animation so far looks great, the bent knees and partial bentness before the jump - all good. now I still dont have an answer.. yes I know a cent is a 100/ts dollar/euro/whatever, but I dont think ens meant he want 2 cent from us.. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=2+cents
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 06 June 2007 at 3:36pm
	*Originally posted by dragonrc* Here is a rough edit of frame 5, you don't really stretch out your arms like that before you jump. I don't really like how the shoes shrink in the last few frames. Also, I don't really like the arms in the frames 2, 6, 9 and 11, I think they should be closer to eachother. I really like these animations, keep up the good work the arms like that are done for reason. this guy is running like a bitch, so things he does are way over exaggerated at times. the show is smaller because it is now pointing towards the user and will be make more clear once the shading is done. the arms are still being constantly tweaked and worked on, so expect some updates tonight. thanks for the help so far all.
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 07 June 2007 at 4:46am
	thanks di0xygen I think he is not jumping far enaugh.. if you would bend your knees like that and jump like this with this speed and this angle you should be able to jump much further.. check the link I posted.. thats a normal distance...
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 07 June 2007 at 4:57am
	of course he isnt jumping that far. its a sprite confined on a small canvas.
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Hapiel Rear Admiral Joined: 30 June 2023 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3266	Posted: 07 June 2007 at 5:34am
	Those red lines should be allmost the same... the first guy is jumping as far as possible now, the second guy is jumping upwards.. if you want the first guy to jump upwards as well than the red line should be in the same angle as in the second guy.. so he should not lean over that much in that frame..
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