nothing to say but : ill be shocked if u havn't inspired jal.

Very good, I prefere this more than the strict and squared iso.
It looks like an original heroic fantasy RPG house !
Continue in this way, and try with less details and less satured colors

i just noticed something.

the roofs that extend from the main one dont look like they are joined.
it might just be me but it doesnt seem right.

greenraven Before 1 year have one project for RPG but he never will finish. I make 2 buildings of that type than - but this is new except one type of windows :) Else I like RPG :)
FrostPumpkin I think that need much details !!! Because one building have too much details !
spartan_117  hm
Lawrence yep for me roof is like flat because I placed 3 colours near one to other ... Here is 2 variants where in the roof I exchange places of two colours ... I have 5-6 pixels betlwen boards and can go and make better vision of second variant ? But than will look as old type of graph and I'm not shure :(


Here repair some parts of the window covers, repair some wooden parts of column, some details on the wall, ets ...


PS
have only one element with grey, but I will need grey in another elements that is why I make him with diferent colours.

front window is bad for me - maybe he is very big ...


Edited by zi-double - 10 January 2008 at 1:11pm

What I meant about the overall shading being too uniform is that since you have the roof curved there are bound to be shading differences over the expanse of the whole roof (not to mention shadows on the walls etc):



Assuming the light is from above, the top part of the main concave roof should be slightly darker than the bottom part because it is facing more horizontally and not receiving as much light. Vice versa for the protruding roof, since it's convex. This shading should really be done from an early stage.

Yep jalonso repair the roof over stairs - I test and with another types but think that type as front part is best ! In first work /below/ I test with little chimney, but maybe better is my first - because he is on the top of house and like he is from two sides of the roof, but place circle outlet on the top ... also repair that poor pillars on the stairs, repair the door and some other small corrections :)

Understand  Lawrence :) Thanks you are totally right - I always think for lights on the vertikal elements. This is my mistakes :( But it's very good that somebody say me that. I will try with available colours and here start that, but in the end if I dislike result will add maybe 1 or 2 dirty colours :)

kwigbo I will try to improve shadows ... else until now I make only classic iso, back part of roof is high, but think that roofs of such /fantasy/ buildings are out of simmetric ! This is just what I think :)




Jal I know Bulgarian language hahaha. More seriously my english is very poor I easy understand when somebody write without translator, but wnen I must write something than going bad hah. That is why I prefer don't comment works because for me is difficult to give good critique, it's a pity but  :( Else I know Russian better from English :)

Also I talk with barry /he is live hehehe/ because I'm afraid that with so biggest buildings can need 2 blocks :( But in Pixel Creek when I choose you have one of the best black works which I see

Thanks for so usefull comments :)

I think that need veranda in front of the door, but will see ...


Edited by zi-double - 11 January 2008 at 11:51am

hmm
wow. im really really quite liking this
i really quite enjoy this style and type of iso.

i just may have to jump in here and help with some crits and edits!
ill see how it goes for alittle,
but soon. maby next update.

oh noes?
im no bad thing!
.. or maby i am
haha

I like it. The window no longer seems real big.

Who lives there?

oh, ouch.
how rude. hahaha

on topic though.
im going to make you an edit.
and then give my comments and criticism for it.
i should have something for you soon.

I don't yet know where you're going but maybe a water wheel will add something special.
One of these:

The connection of the cottage to the hayloft is not logical.
It may be the base line. It may be something else.
Perhaps a wider space between the two. Removing the third window (next to the door). Or a small roof to connect them on the second floor.

Well, they don't have to be connected but they should relate to each other.
The illocial thing I find is that this farmer would not have built the hayloft so close to the cottage because the space in between the too is too small for the animals to make it through and the people too. If you have a gable that connects its nice but thats a luxury. You have to imagine that the horses won't all enter thru the opening on the side. Even if they did the people will not and so the alley is too small to be logical.
The third window is just a layout thing and the more I look at it the more it stands out : /

EDIT: The windows on the hayloft are also too long. A horse may jump out.


Edited by jalonso - 12 January 2008 at 9:11pm

hm I plan to obstruct that alley with garbage and green ... and where that horse will go when in back part of the houses have fence ! When I was in many old villages the building are so close one to another and have such cracks between them :) Ok I think that variant with the bridge is better :)

This is workshop that horse must be crazy to jump there - will take 2 or 4 pixels from the height of the windows, else idea was to be more brightly inside when somebody work there :)

If I remove window than the wall will be empty ... but can stay with 2 windows and can build vertical wooden pillar between them I was think for that but until now I'm not try ...


Edited by zi-double - 12 January 2008 at 10:10pm

I keep seeing posts about lightsource over and over in zi's work.
Perhaps he has not made himself clear or maybe I just have it wrong. I understand from him that his process is to pixel without a lightsource until all the elements are laid out and the scene is constructed.
Not a bad idea actually. I find myself changing shadowing a lot.

zi, now that you have laid the scene out the loft to house is fine. It was an optical illlusion.

oh, ok.
sorry about that. I musta missed when you said you were working flat.
my bad.

Ill wait till its closer to being finished.
Ill let you flesh out your ideas,
and then ill start giving crits and edits, for a more finalized piece.
Edits can be a waste, if the image is going to change soon anyways.
So ill keep watching,
and closer to completion Ill come back.

I agree that the boards are too thick and too wide.
Its too chunky of wood for me,
but I wasnt sure on what exactly you were going for.
Ill see how your next update goes.
But maby ill help with that when I can.
Im fairly busy at the moment, so giving an edit, might be difficult.

I really really quite like the grass and the soil.
The only thing that stands out to me, is perhaps better transition between the grass and the soil. Look like you layered the grass ontop, and used an eraser tool to show the soil through.
Otherwise, excellent ground

flaber hm the grass have too much colours and when make shadows will have some problems maybe, but will see

yep thanks good idea Morgan cook :)

else here is current ... and work on the car now I take 4 pixels from his height but maybe must remove more ! ... and will make some barrels, wheels and other elements ... than will think for plant ... and have one idea how to push water in the work ;)

Work on the roof going slowly because I'm not shure is he right enough :) Also I dislike right part of the fence because this is repeat of elements and will change with stone wall maybe ...




Edited by zi-double - 15 January 2008 at 10:44am

I just put them to see how will fill area over building in limited space /like background/ ... else you are right ... but I think for some green with lianas or somethink ... maybe they will be make good and dream-land atmosphere, of course somewhere must have big tree - maybe there combined with lianas :)

I want to hide half from one windows of the building in left part :)


Edited by zi-double - 15 January 2008 at 11:43am

pfff today I'm not sleep, but working on the ground heh

here is result until now - now I have water for windmill /if I make it/. Think to make 2 bridges want 1 ot them to be with ropes and wood !

Add 2 new colours for water - but will change one of them with more blue - because I'm not see, but he is near to gray palette ... Will remove right fence 100% ...



Now go to sleep kekeke

PS
Of course need shadows from high level of the ground ... as from all other elements


Edited by zi-double - 16 January 2008 at 8:02am

the wood against the bench that is under the window looks like bread 
anyone else see it? Also the path and grass look weird... but  that's only my opinion.

Yep the hay is too yellow, but hay is near to the brown, but always is brown :( else not problem in the end I can change saturation, because will use yellow in too many details and main for hay :)
I repair a bit Morgan cook
I haven't work in the office flaber and in home hehehe else the grass is just as background ... now easy can build and shade elements and details - I think to use previous grass just in very small areas .

start to make some environment, because I don't know what to make in empty red area ?




Edited by zi-double - 17 January 2008 at 6:07am

Yep, but was funny to make 2. if I'm not lazy and make mill 1 will go there ... maybe if I put stone wall will be screen a bit second bridge ... The question is, are the wall isn't very wide ... I can put ladder ets. and will be as castle wall, but I'm not shure is this good choice to finish right border ?




Edited by zi-double - 17 January 2008 at 1:48pm

yep maybe this is good to add pond with green and fern :)

until now I think only for garden with vegetables and for draw-well, but pond will be better for fantasy environment :)

I can make ditch going to lake ... and add some goose hehehe


Edited by zi-double - 17 January 2008 at 2:04pm

Here is idea for the stone wall - spaces between bulges in the upper part of the wall are too big and some soldier can climb from there heh, but think that in that variant looked more detailed !

Also repair the car and add more green on the tree which is as hedgehog :) Will repair green of him of course later on ... and change 1 yellow colour for the hay - Feron was right now look better.

Must repair a bit end of the stairs because now look at maybe need 1/2 step




Edited by zi-double - 18 January 2008 at 8:18am