Strangely enough, I usually fail to make any progress when a piece gets to the point where I'm so stuck that I have to resort to wip-threadding. Owell, here I am again with a WIP I actually care about.

Two hours in so far, today's personal challenge is to document the piece well (save often, and just for kicks make a movie of it as well) and see how much of a bitch glass is to make.

I've got big plans for this piece, and I need your guyses help figuring this bit out. Then I've got some animating to do. Should be fun :)

Progresses:

http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/SaboteurGreg/?action=view&current=Bottle_2.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/SaboteurGreg/Bottle_3.png
http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y73/SaboteurGreg/?action=view&current=Bottle_4.png

The smiley face stays :(


Edited by Saboteur - 25 March 2008 at 9:44pm

Here is a sample of a rotation of a cylinder similar to your bottle.

Took me a few secs, but I get what you're saying P_O

And Aleiav... O_O

Will make bottle shorter and construct the oval righter. Checkmark.

Well you didn't so I cried for days :(



Half hour ish update. Made the bottle smaller (though now that I look at it, not much smaller) and fixed up the bottom a lil (though it's still off) and realised it's gonna be a giant bitch to do without reference, so I need to drink a bottle of wine in a green bottle and lie it down in a forest in the fall. Pronto.

And it really trips me out that the brown squiggles in the shadow on the leaves-side of the bottle looks like I just took a pen and made jaggedy lines in brown, but really it's just a series of random brown pixels.


Edited by Saboteur - 25 March 2008 at 9:48pm

I can see that it's a bottle, but... it also looks like a telescope from this angle. Maybe a change of perspective is in order? Rotate a bottle a bit?

Here's a ref pic:


Aleiav, lol.

I plan to make it more transparent-looking than it currently is, which should fix the "I look like telescomp lol" problem. As for rotating the bottle, that sounds like a lot of work I dun really wanna do.

scamocore, you're right, the top of the bottle is wonked. I'll address that next update.

An' P_O, which one of us is the "hers?"

I feel like I'm just changing the perspective. Am I just changing the perspective?



I'm just changing the perspective :(

I don't have access to my mathematic tools right now but if you like I can show how to draw this with a sort of projection system geometrically tomorrow.

I'll leave that notion to a 12 year old.

Tell that to Filippo Brunelleschi, the founder of perspective drawing. Tell that to Da Vinci who constructed fablous concepts and art. Your middle school art teacher is ignorant if he/she "taught" you this.

 

Sometimes you need to make a reference if you have a mathmatically definable shape. I took an average looking bottle model and forced it into a perspective projection.

 

Edited by Pixel_Outlaw - 27 March 2008 at 10:26am

Understand what you're saying Talos, but it seems obvious that Sab would prefer to make the image he's creating believable in that sense. He probably would have said otherwise if he was going in some other direction.

I was about to talk about that Art Guerrilla rant up there, but everything was already said.