CHALLENGE 1/2/2012: Weight
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Topic: CHALLENGE 1/2/2012: Weight
Posted By: administrator
Subject: CHALLENGE 1/2/2012: Weight
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 12:01am
Replies:
Posted By: MyO
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:04am
| (immediately thinks about Cherry Blossom Impact) |
Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 10:17am
 Very early WIP, An criticism welcome. Our favourite developer fluttering carelessly through the sky |
Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 12:59pm
Progress: Can't wait to see some of the other entry ideas. |
Posted By: Xamllew
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 1:28pm
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They told me I could be anything, so I became... ...Worth the weight. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 4:54pm
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I was thinking doing angels walking on clouds, what do you guys think ? something like this:   |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 5:24pm
| How exactly is that unexpected weight? You normally see angels doing that. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 5:30pm
| If you sit on a cloud you would fall down... |
Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 5:51pm
 This is pretty much the most common angel imagery there is, not unexpected in the least. |
Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 6:04pm
| I was thinking somebody looking up to see a piano falling on them, the piano blowing up, and a small piece of shrapnel crushing him. We'll see if I actually have time to even start that. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 7:27pm
| Thanks CPearson, this will help! |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 7:45pm
| I don't think you understand. It's not unexpected. Angels have wings anyway. They can "sit" wherever they want, not just a cloud. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 7:50pm
| so a bird sits on a cloud because she have wings? or they sit or they fly.. in this case they are sitting |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 7:56pm
| How many pictures have you seen that shows an angels falling through a cloud he tried to sit on? It's expected that an angel will be able to sit on a cloud, even if it is a physical impossibility. What would be unexpected is that an angel falls through the cloud, seeing as how we don't see that many references of angels falling through clouds. This challenge says unexpected weight, not real weight, which would support your case. However, in your case the your view of unexpected is expected, so you have to do the unexpected by doing the expected...wow, that's a little confusing... |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 7:58pm
| Actually, you know what? Do what you want. I'll just leave it up the admins to decide this. Don't feel like discussing this anymore. |
Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:18pm
Birds don't sit on clouds because they are a real animal. On a cloud (heaven) is literally the most likely place for an angel to be. Falling through a cloud would be unexpected for an angel. |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:21pm
| thank you. PLEASE tell me you're an admin... |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:26pm
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Originally posted by Jeremy Birds don't sit on clouds because they are a real animal. On a cloud (heaven) is literally the most likely place for an angel to be. Falling through a cloud would be unexpected for an angel. wait that means I can or I cant do the angel? since an angel falling on a cloud is unexpected? if no... thats ok for me to do an angel falling in a cloud?... |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:31pm
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Exactly...The unexpected is the angel...falling through...the cloud......
I think you know what you need to do... |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:35pm
ok then. WIP:    tell me what you think! |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 8:40pm
@mdog95: How about just having the piano floating in the air above his head? The other idea seems a bit much, unless you're planning on animating it, in which case..... ....you have my blessing...
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Posted By: Chibiwing
Date Posted: 02 January 2012 at 11:18pm
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Leaving an impact crater when cracking an egg on the countertop. An anvil falling on a wine glass and bouncing off like a balloon.
A butterfly carrying a giant dumbell.
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Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 12:16am
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@Airstyle
I was planning on animating it. It's why I'm questioning whether I'll have time to make it or not... It'll be cool if I do. If not, I'll think of something else that will take less time to make on Saturday :P |
Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 1:40am
  
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Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 5:45am
 Hands are hard to draw. |
Posted By: Denmen707
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 5:55am
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Originally posted by CPearson Come on, give the guy some privacy or at least some pants
Hands are hard to draw. |
Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 7:05am
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Cherub types usually have genitals. Guess you're not a fan of renaissance art then? |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 8:31am
| His nipples should be off to the left and right a little more. You have them dead center, from what it looks like. |
Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 9:07am
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Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 11:31am
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Posted By: Chibiwing
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 12:31pm
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Ah, Art history! The class where you were asked to scrutinise naked people quite regularly. Even at the college level there was plenty of childish giggling.
Nifty idea, Grain. Not sure about the readability of your stylized one. Buddy.
Air - Maybe his own irl nipples are centered?
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Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 2:06pm
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Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 2:46pm
What about this? Advice? What could he be lifting? I need help! |
Posted By: ||||
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 3:09pm
| Please don't remove cherubim's genitalia! I agree about the nipples though. |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 3:51pm
Bit of an update - obviously very rough still
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Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 3:58pm
| I have no idea what you should add...what can't Superman lift? |
Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 4:16pm
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Yeah, you guys are eight about the nipples, I jsut added them to see whether it would look right for him to have nipples at all. Also not sure about the position of the genetalia. |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 4:23pm
| Move them back between the legs. Right now, they're more attached to his stomach. |
Posted By: shampoop
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 4:43pm
| kryptonite |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 5:07pm
| I'm thinking it should be something comically easy to lift |
Posted By: Uncle_Gun
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 6:41pm
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Posted By: cure
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 6:44pm
| would be cooler if the kid were bumping the sumo guy out with his gut or something. right now I think 'unexpected force' rather than 'unexpected weight', due to the emphasis on the kid's push rather than him displacing the sumo due to mass. |
Posted By: Uncle_Gun
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 6:52pm
| yeah that would make more sense. I will rework it tomorrow. Thanks for the advice. |
Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 6:54pm
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@ingl0rius
Make him hold the internet. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 8:04pm
hey guys help me please! 7 colors, do you think its worth adding more? |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 9:30pm
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Yes. I can barely tell what that is, even knowing it's an angel. You might want to make both the cloud and the angel larger so we can really enjoy the hilarity!
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Posted By: _Connor
Date Posted: 03 January 2012 at 11:39pm
basic WIP. not sure about the palette, i'm kinda just trying random colours as i go. CC would be appreciated.
edit: Btw it's an Ark shipwrecked on clouds. There's an angel in the little boat which i might just remove, and focus on the actual ship. edit: still not sure about these colours, but i added some more detail 
edit: ffs forgot about max 20 colours, i'm at 30 :( edit: nerfed some colours, and the angel. I think it's more unified now, though i think the boat is now a bit harsh. 
Could still use some CC 
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Posted By: Chibiwing
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 2:23am
| Make him lift a loaf of bread. Or air. |
Posted By: CPearson
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 8:05am
Progress: |
Posted By: Herondetsu
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 8:55am
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I LoL'd when I read this challenge because I couldn't stop thinking about the scene in Thor when Thor places his ridiculously small hammer on Loki's chest, and Loki couldn't move. XD ------------- Tommorow never comes why wait for it? |
Posted By: juliano.tereza
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 10:45am
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Originally posted by _Connor
basic WIP. not sure about the palette, i'm kinda just trying random colours as i go. CC would be appreciated.
edit: Btw it's an Ark shipwrecked on clouds. There's an angel in the little boat which i might just remove, and focus on the actual ship. edit: still not sure about these colours, but i added some more detail lol did you based on philippejugnet? |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 10:59am
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Originally posted by Herondetsu I LoL'd when I read this challenge because I couldn't stop thinking about the scene in Thor when Thor places his ridiculously small hammer on Loki's chest, and Loki couldn't move. XD true lol |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 04 January 2012 at 11:56am
WIP this competition is very |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 12:15pm
Work in progress - Superman struggling with his lunch! |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 2:53pm
I did in 2 colors, tell me what you think please!!!!!!!!  |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 3:31pm
WIP update |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 4:14pm
| Very nice. I like the colors in this one, and your clouds look wonderful! |
Posted By: Lathien
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 5:53pm
| @ ingl0rius: Very nice work on the muscles and I love the colors and the idea, but his chest looks a little too long and because of that the logo needs to be moved down a few pixels. The bottom point should be past his pecks and onto his abs, here's a http://hannahlois15.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/superman_5.jpg - ref . |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 6:30pm
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I don't know if I am going to be able to finish it in time....... how do angels fall from sky...  |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 6:40pm
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It depends on what time you're capturing them falling.
When sitting down, the first thing that will happen is the angel will simply lean back and fall through, face-up. Then, as he falls through the sky, the wings will catch the air, and cause the angel to flip over. Or, if the wings are limp, which I couldn't possibly know, they would just stay lying on their back. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 05 January 2012 at 8:03pm
| no the pic's name will be that =D "how do angels fall from sky" |
Posted By: Jafhar
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 3:02am
Just a 2 min' scribble from a new guy showing how he thinks an angel would fall:
Although i would imagine it to either: -Fly off. -do crazy spins in mid air while trynig to fly. -or in this case, limp wings/unconscious. |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 3:07am
| It wasn't a question...as clarified last post. That's what the title of the piece is going to be. Don't worry. I got it wrong, too. |
Posted By: Gecimen
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 7:25am
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Originally posted by ingl0rius
Work in progress - Superman struggling with his lunch! I think he should be crushing under a speech baloon of Lois Lane |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 8:36am
| Thanks guys you gave me lots of ideas |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 11:39am
wip: I still think it is not good =/ I wasted more time with colors;;;       please help witch one is better? |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 3:08pm
Wip: working highspeed please help!  |
Posted By: Trick17
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 4:41pm
| All palettes are looking very monochromic, I would suggest to hue shift some colors. And the sunset is not very believeble because of the low contrast. |
Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 4:52pm
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Originally posted by Super17 All palettes are looking very monochromic, I would suggest to hue shift some colors. And the sunset is not very believeble because of the low contrast. better this way?  |
Posted By: Trick17
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 5:45pm
A bit, but I mean it more like this: |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 6:02pm
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Originally posted by Lathien
@ ingl0rius: Very nice work on the muscles and I love the colors and the idea, but his chest looks a little too long and because of that the logo needs to be moved down a few pixels. The bottom point should be past his pecks and onto his abs, here's a http://hannahlois15.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/superman_5.jpg - ref . Is this better? 
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Posted By: cuervo.taylor
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 9:18pm
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Wow love the super man it made me lol. Wouldn't it be funnier a banana? don't know banana is kinda funnier than a simple apple and would make a better contrast :D This is my entry for the contest: 
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Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 06 January 2012 at 9:29pm
| pretty funny, but you sure you don't want to make it a little bigger? You've got so much more space to work with... |
Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 1:08am
| I should have a few hours tomorrow to at least try to make my entry. I haven't even started yet... |
Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 7:33am
   
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Posted By: philippejugnet
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 3:37pm
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Originally posted by Super17 A bit, but I mean it more like this: thats not my style =/ but thanks |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 3:56pm
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Well here's what I have, but when i'm doing the colour checker its coming out as 53 colours??
What's going on? Can someone help me? 
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Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 4:36pm
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Posted By: Trick17
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 4:37pm
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@ philippejugnet: Was just a suggestion and not to be intended for copying from this ;) |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 4:39pm
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Originally posted by Graindolium
ingl0rius , 45 opaque, 8 trans !
I don't understand how! I used the same pallette throughout -(I thought) Is there any way to easily reduce this? How can I have 8 transparent colours, what's going on? |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 5:16pm
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Did you save it in .png? or Jpg? Apparently in .png, "artifacts" are saved with the file, making the file seem like it has more colors than what it does. Codewarrior had the same problem in the IsoAk project. Save the file in .gif format, and the problem should cease. I doubt you did it in JPEG, but just in case, JPEG saves in compression, so information is lost during the saving.
I don't know why, but .png is giving people a hard time now. I haven't had a problem with it? Does anyone know if there's more than one way to save in .png format? |
Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 5:29pm
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Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 5:31pm
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Originally posted by AirStyle
Did you save it in .png? or Jpg? Apparently in .png, "artifacts" are saved with the file, making the file seem like it has more colors than what it does. Codewarrior had the same problem in the IsoAk project. Save the file in .gif format, and the problem should cease. I doubt you did it in JPEG, but just in case, JPEG saves in compression, so information is lost during the saving. I don't know why, but .png is giving people a hard time now. I haven't had a problem with it? Does anyone know if there's more than one way to save in .png format? Ugh I've done something stupid - I've been working on the png instead of my .psd in photoshop, so I'm stuck with the colours (wont solve by re-saving) Is there any way I can reduce the colours automatically or hunt down the rogue ones? I really would like to enter this piece but i don't want to break rules obviously |
Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 5:34pm
| .png has never given me problems before. I always get only the colors I use... |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 5:45pm
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@ingl0rius: I only have one other option: point...and...click... :\
Click over each pixel, and make sure that it's the right color. Sorry it's not much help, but it's all I got. If you have the color replacement tool, or if you use GraphicsGale, which has a color replacement tool, and a color-counter (love that thing!), you could fix it. Either way, though, you'll still have to...point...and...click. :\ @mdog95: Yeah, I haven't had that problem much either, except for that one time when I saved in .png in PaintDotNet, and opened it in GraphicsGale. ~64 colors turned into 304!. Crazy stuff. All I can say on that is stick to one program when working on a project. |
Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 6:52pm
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@inglori0us: if you change image mode to RGB, then indexed, you should get a prompt for how many colours you want. If you know how many you had, just input that (it's 20 or under, obviously) and it *should* be back to normal. |
Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 7:37pm
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@Airstyle
Yes, paint.net is crap. I use Grafx2 and GIMP, depending on the project. I find animating a lot easier with GIMP, but general pixel art is much easier and faster in Grafx2. They both save .png and .gif the way they should be, and GIMP can save an animated PNG, not that it would be necessary since pixel art shouldn't be anywhere near 256 colors in one piece :P |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 07 January 2012 at 11:17pm
| I would use GIMP, but I don't like the way they handle their palette (can't dynamically manipulate it: have to "graph" it to the picture via gray-scale and whatnot). The animation set-up in GIMP seems too confusing. Those are the two things that made me use PaintDotNet, since you could download a animation plugin, and dynamically change the palette. However, Graphics Gale has Onion Skin, which is what pretty much sold me...unless I'm wrong about GIMP, and it's easier than what I've seen... |
Posted By: Jafhar
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 3:42am
| Just for the superman colour correction, if you have paint.net you can easily use the fill tool and reduce/increase the tolerance to fill in areas with the same colour even if they are of different shades. |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 5:31am
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Originally posted by Jeremy
@inglori0us: if you change image mode to RGB, then indexed, you should get a prompt for how many colours you want. If you know how many you had, just input that (it's 20 or under, obviously) and it *should* be back to normal. Thankyou so much, this worked! I had to further reduce the colours, but this was great. Thanks everyone else for your help and input too. |
Posted By: Shaggy
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 9:35am
I have not done the clouds, an elephant is flying above the clouds with a balloon, see:
The pallete is mine. Help to make skys and the elephant? |
Posted By: AirStyle
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 12:18pm
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Addressing the elephant, if the balloon is carrying all of its weight, the elephant needs to be centered underneath the balloon (or, at least, his center of mass), and in a dangling body position. Right now, he looks like he's standing on the ground, even if the ground is not there. Also, make sure you're only using 20 colors. I counted your palette, and it's WELL over. |
Posted By: ingl0rius
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 1:55pm
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Originally posted by AirStyle
Addressing the elephant, if the balloon is carrying all of its weight, the elephant needs to be centered underneath the balloon (or, at least, his center of mass), and in a dangling body position. Right now, he looks like he's standing on the ground, even if the ground is not there.Also, make sure you're only using 20 colors. I counted your palette, and it's WELL over. I'd also like to add that the string on the balloon should be tight if it's pulling him upwards |
Posted By: Shaggy
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 3:17pm
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Originally posted by AirStyle
Addressing the elephant, if the balloon is carrying all of its weight, the elephant needs to be centered underneath the balloon (or, at least, his center of mass), and in a dangling body position. Right now, he looks like he's standing on the ground, even if the ground is not there.Also, make sure you're only using 20 colors. I counted your palette, and it's WELL over. All my palette is in the corner, so you have many colors. And I could not make an elephant hanging, can you help me? |
Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 3:25pm
| I would like to address that Graindolium already used the exact same idea for this challenge. |
Posted By: Graindolium
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 3:33pm
<-- Graindolium <-- ../p/34532.htm - Sublyme
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Posted By: Zane444
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 7:55pm
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Posted By: mdog95
Date Posted: 08 January 2012 at 10:12pm
| I meant Sublyme. My bad... |