>(")< does something not ISO
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Category: Pixel Art
Forum Name: WIP (Work In Progress)
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Printed Date: 10 September 2025 at 7:40pm
Topic: >(")< does something not ISO
Posted By: jalonso
Subject: >(")< does something not ISO
Date Posted: 23 May 2006 at 10:36pm
So I started this fighting game background for another forum and
thought I'd get c+c here since that forum is mostly programmers. I was
wondering if going from a very flat foreground and going to a mock
perpective looks OK. Is that lame? The front buildings wont be that boxxy, they're just there to help visaulize. EDIT: the sprite is not by me ------------- |
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Posted By: Dra_chan
Date Posted: 23 May 2006 at 11:25pm
The background kicks ass!
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 12:16pm
no c+c   ------------- |
Posted By: Quickie
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 12:38pm
| holy fuggnuggets thats awesome. love the background! |
Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 12:51pm
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the background is super-f**king-awesome in the first pic, but in the second it looks qutie distorted. the foreground tiles seem abit overdithered as well - Almost as if you're placing patterned lines instead of thinking how it would actually look, and it makes the rooftops look almost too clean. the windows on the red building also don't make much sense, I have no idea what's going on with them to be darkened and all of a seemingly different brightness - the front building roof and the back building roofs should be of different brightnesses, else the player might think of them as platforms [and you're not going to be able to jump ontop of a building roof in the background; it just wouldn't make sense.] I can't find much else to crit about this for now, but I do like the overall look except for some of those parts I mentioned. ------------- http://sj-gfx.com"> 
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 1:02pm
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pic 1 = <3
pic 2 = AAAARRRGG my eyes!!  ------------- Snark, we love yuu. |
Posted By: Corvox
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 1:49pm
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I am new to pixel arting but Think this looks alittle to cludder, (2nd pick) stearing at that for an extremly long time would start hurting my eyes,Its great work, but the back ground seems to have too much,maybe thats just me though. I been told alot sometimes less is better, maybe that holds true here? |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 2:04pm
I dont think the background's the problem, that's brilliant (although i dont like the scanlined look. And the 'car' lights in the first one didnt really look like such.) The stuff in the foreground is too sharp and contrasted for me. 
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Posted By: MurrMan
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 2:20pm
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Originally posted by Larwick I dont think the background's the problem, that's brilliant (although i dont like the scanlined look. And the 'car' lights in the first one didnt really look like such.) The stuff in the foreground is too sharp and contrasted for me.
i think those are meant to be street lights not car lights larwick and yeah, the second one is way too cluttered. |
Posted By: mixxedstuff
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 3:00pm
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Yes, a background needs to remain just that- a background. The most recent one is a bit to busy for this purpose, to the point of being distracting/disorienting. The rear background layers are fine, but the frontal ones are too "fused" with the foreground.One solution may be to lower the brighness of this background layer, to make it less "fused" with the foreground objects. ------------- This is a signature. What it is for, I have no idea. |
Posted By: Psychotic_Carp
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 4:10pm
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Originally posted by jalonso
no c+c
There are some really neat designes on some of the buildings here but its just a bit too busy -------------  got game?
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 8:06pm
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Back to the drawing board. I see everyone's point about the overall busyness. I am very new to game bkgs so I really appreciate ALL comments on this. The programmeros of this clan really love it as is, but they may not be very artistic so I'm counting on the PJclan 
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Posted By: Toopsie147
Date Posted: 24 May 2006 at 10:04pm
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the backgroung is getting a bit fuzzy, the buildings have quite kewl designs. i think there should be a little more space between two windows or doors of the front most building. otherwise it's AWESOME! ------------- |
Posted By: Brian the Great
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 6:27am
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I'm joining the crowd by saying I'd like to see a bit less random shading. ------------- http://www.twoschizos.com"> 
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Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 8:38am
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Originally posted by Brian the Great I'm joining the crowd by saying I'd like to see a bit less random shading. Yes.. looks great, but a little too heavy. ------------- |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 1:19pm
Am I on the right track with this? EDIT: sprite for size only, made by the game spriter ------------- |
Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 1:37pm
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I like this much more |
Posted By: PixelSnader
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 1:58pm
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Posted By: Shark
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 3:20pm
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Posted By: Souly
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 5:55pm
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Posted By: Bifur
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 6:10pm
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background is WTFOMFGTEACHME why dont u make some buildings with diff style so theres more deph? dont know if it works tho... ------------- 
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Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 7:50pm
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I still some pixels taht just seem random and out of place on the rooftop tiles, but you can tell what's on the main plain now, so that's defenitely an improvement, the background is much cleaner, but some of those buildings in the background [the big ones] just seem like they have too much dither on them. some of those flat color blocks seem out of place compared to the business of everythign else. I'm too tired to go into moer depth than this right now :( ------------- http://sj-gfx.com">
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 10:21pm
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This updates includes all the concerns raised here I hope. I have
unified the colors down to 24 (can be 18 but not finished, excludes the
6 colors on the sprite) @leel and snader, I did not make the sprites for this game. I modified the colors a bit, I will attempt to get the spriter to modify his palette too cuz he's not supposed to be asian, actually I don't know what "it" is. @Shark, hope your eyes feel better XD @Lar and BtG, the contrast is more consistent, I hopes @Those who loved the background, sorry it had to go (I actually hated it) @Setz, I think I will never please you and finally to quote Flameruler13, more c+c PLLEEEEAAZZZEEEEEE  ------------- |
Posted By: Dra_chan
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 10:54pm
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Originally posted by jalonso This one looks awesome. The background is woa and the buildings are very detailed and woooo |
Posted By: Saboteur
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 11:34pm
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HOLY CRAPGASM. If this were a game, the number one thing that would piss me off is that I'd always try use the background as platforms. I mean, it's too PRETTY to be a background. And I'd probably bail on the faintest row of buildings. It probably would look fine without them. Either that or down the contrast so they're even subtler. ------------- "I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business." |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 25 May 2006 at 11:41pm
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It is for a game. I see your point Sab. I'm a detail person and find
simplifying this really hard to do. Back to the drawing board, I
thought I had made great progress with this update too
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Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:08am
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It's friggin awesome. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: fil_razorback
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:36am
Sure it does 
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:40am
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Indeed it shall. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com"> 
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 5:54am
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I see you still left the rooftops insanely weird-random-dithered, but other than that I'm loving this upduate :D
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 5:58am
Pssst! That's detail and grime, not dither.  ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:20pm
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Originally posted by Monkey 'o Doom Pssst! That's detail and grime, not dither. Indeed!  Am I done yet? ------------- |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:23pm
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*drooels.* Looking fantastic. Now for shum sprites. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:33pm
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I believe he implied that was someone else. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:37pm
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That's brilliant- super attention to detail on the buildings. Reminds me of that new 'The Batman' tv show.. I kinda like it.
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 12:44pm
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Yes, I will not be making any sprites (I fail anyways) for this game collab only the level backgrounds.
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 1:28pm
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I have to crit now, I guess. More like suck up actually. The details are sweet, the colors are perfect, the perspective is sweet, and I love the atmosphere. 6/5 stars. EDIT: Typo; that pool water screws up your coordination. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 2:08pm
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Originally posted by Monkey 'o Doom
I believe he implied that was someone else. Ok alright, i suck at reading things properly. Thought that other one was just a filler.  But yeah, good work jalonso. ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: alkaline
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 2:49pm
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Pretty, but the yellowy buliding sorta has that pillow shadin' thing going on. try getting rid of the darkness on the bottoms and leave it on the top.
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Posted By: Saboteur
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:01pm
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That's incredibly fantastic. No further questions, case closed. ------------- "I was minding my own business and walking across a pebbled path, and a Duck started giving me the business." |
Posted By: Bifur
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:15pm
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I may be the only dumass to say something at this point but.. maybe some city lights? xD awesome anyways -------------
I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow... |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 4:36pm
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Originally posted by Bifur I may be the only dumass to say something at this point but.. maybe some city lights? lol. Not a dumbass at all. I wanted to get the layout right before adding the lighting, good call. EDIT: I see what you mean alkaline, will do. ------------- |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 26 May 2006 at 9:42pm
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I like it. :) It feels very Gotham city to me... or maybe I'm just on crack. :P But yes, I like it. ------------- |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 10:32am
Update with alkaline and Beefur's suggestions. I've also deepened the
blues for a darker night, light or dark? This should be pretty much
finished now unless there are other glaring errors. ------------- |
Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 10:48am
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The light one is more moody; this one more mysterious and nighttime-ish. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com">
RPG is numberwang. |
Posted By: Larwick
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 11:00am
Well done jalonso. This is brilliant. I aspecially like the lighting on the far right building in the darker one.  ------------- http://larw-ck.deviantart.com">
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Posted By: Bifur
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 1:07pm
Very sutble light , now its perfect 
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Posted By: d-p
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 1:57pm
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Looks awesome, neat development, hope you treasure the other versions, they are cool, too.
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Posted By: KawizradSaddrax
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 2:15pm
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very nice! Its starting to look a bit like brooklyn! |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 27 May 2006 at 3:59pm
Ok this is the final version, thank you, thank you, thank you ALL. I
submitted to the gallery so please take a sec to go rate it :D ------------- |