CHALLENGE 6/18/2007: 1BITty BITness
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Topic: CHALLENGE 6/18/2007: 1BITty BITness
Posted By: administrator
Subject: CHALLENGE 6/18/2007: 1BITty BITness
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:13am
Eerie windy windmill hill by /p/4628.htm' target='_blank'>FrankieSmileShow
Four seasons by /p/7478.htm' target='_blank'>drZool
ButterflyWalley by /p/10122.htm' target='_blank'>pain
Samuel by /p/9438.htm' target='_blank'>PownatizedReplies:
Posted By: sedgemonkey
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:30am
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Some excellent 1-bit examples... ../pixelart/14761.htm - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/14761.htm ../pixelart/12350.htm - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/12350.htm ../pixelart/17358.htm - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17358.htm ../pixelart/10014.htm - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/10014.htm ../pixelart/18756.htm - http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/18756.htm |
Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:54am
hm this is what I have so far UPDATE:  |
Posted By: Krysis
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 1:16am
Oh, no... a dithering chalenge. 
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Posted By: Mindiell
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 1:38am
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N00b question : What is Oekaki ? :) ------------- Mindiell French n00b |
Posted By: Saxamaphone
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 1:40am
| I might actually try this. New to the idea so we'll see. |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 2:15am
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Originally posted by Mindiell N00b question : What is Oekaki ? :) http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=Oekaki&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi - Google it , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oekaki - Wiki it , http://www.oekakicentral.com/fp/fp1/index2.php - Honestly !! 2 Colours, this is nice. Might actually finish it. :o ------------- |
Posted By: Krakatoa
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 3:09am
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Should be fun... let's see how I go xD EDIT: I'd like some crits on this piece, it is of Master Chief's helmet. If no-one crits I'll just start a topic...  |
Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 3:35am
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my first challenge
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Posted By: zlajonja
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 4:34am
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spartan.. 2 colors only.. u got 3 there :P
I have seen oekaki, but still have no clue what it is after googling, wiki-ing and Honestly-ing it... :D This one is fun, it reminds me of the drawings in Painter on spectrum lol :D ------------- somnabularian insomniac 
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Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 4:39am
| im leaving the background white for now until i finnish the skull then il draw shadows on the floor |
Posted By: BlackEye
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 5:33am
 like... yeah. |
Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 7:39am
 Feel like doing something huge-ass! been working on this for four hours so far... (the big black things going to be a windmill) |
Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 7:47am
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show off :P
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Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 7:55am
| Duh. :D |
Posted By: DJD
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 8:38am
| I'm curious, does that count as real pixel placement FrankieSmileShow? I've always wondered with your pieces and while I thoroughly enjoy each it seems more like a scribble technique then each singular pixel being placed with love and care. Either way you should finish because that looks damn awesome. <3 |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 9:32am
Hmm.. I'm unsure how to make this tunnel look more.. tunnel-ly http://illinois.sierraclub.org/shawnee/images/tunnel_hill/th-tunnel_north.jpg - Reference used. ------------- |
Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 10:05am
real pixel placement? You mean if I use the spray tool? Nope, thats all by hand. heres where its at now-- |
Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 10:22am
 I changed from skull to aang.
Any tips on making it look good????
 (the real file is .psd jpeg is for show only)
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Posted By: Pixitis
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 10:23am
I had an idea of 2 colours. So i made a platformer =]. It looks incomplete, any idea's.
 Spartan, don't use JPEG
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Posted By: Blueberry_pie
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 11:17am
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Originally posted by spartan_117  I changed from skull to aang.
Any tips on making it look good????
(the real file is .psd jpeg is for show only) Oh man, that's just painful to look at. Please do us all a favour and save it as a GIF or PNG next time ;) ------------- |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 11:46am
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Originally posted by FrankieSmileShow real pixel placement? You mean if I use the spray tool? Nope, thats all by hand. no, we mean its sort of scribbled, so you didnt draw pixel by pixel but you took your pencil tool and just scribbled to make some mountains.. you have drawn alot of lines next to each other to get a mountain, and you didnt zoom in to pixel level to place every pixel on exactly the right place... ------------- |
Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:02pm
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OK, pixel by pixel does not mean that you literally have to click for each dot.
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Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:08pm
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You seem to be very informed on how I proceed! Do you spy over my
shoulder as I lay down the pixels in such an horribly
pseudo-random fashion, a slap in the face of pixel art itself? May the gods of bitmap forgive my gratuitous insolence, and may I be struck by righteous divine fury where I stand! Give me 2*2 checkerboard dithering or give me death! Chaotic lines? yea rite more like ARTISTIC RAPE! Or it might just be my style, mh? Miiight be. Bah, strike me down nonetheless, to be on the safe side. :o (its just my style. And every pixel is lovingly(as in, I had children with every one of them(thats at least 480000 children)) placed. Honest. :D) |
Posted By: Rynen10K
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 1:47pm
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Hmmm... are animations allowed?
Still not entirely sure what I'm going to do, but I've always wanted to do a 1-bit piece :)
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Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 2:09pm
| I hope they are, because i'm sure as hell animating mine! |
Posted By: zlajonja
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 2:34pm
I've just started... but this is totaly opposite of the first idea I had.. lol...
and lol @ frankie :D, btw. exelent one :) i luv it so far :P ------------- somnabularian insomniac
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Posted By: Excalibur
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 3:03pm
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Here is my obvious WIP.
All Constructive feedback is welcome.
Excalibur
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Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 4:19pm
Perfect time to go back and explore the wood-cut style. I got the style down, just need a subject... boat? building? Not sure yet... ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: Excalibur
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 6:22pm
Here is a simple update. Please give feedback.
 Excalibur
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Posted By: klav
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 6:43pm
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Originally posted by Excalibur Here is a simple update. Please give feedback. Excalibur well, its a dragon... dragon's seem to be the most popular subject on pj. |
Posted By: Zhou9
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 7:05pm
It started out as a female:
 Then I filled in the background.
 Neither are particularly good, but which one's better?
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 11:24pm
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if the idea is to make her look like a piccaso's painting, mmm.... no. both are just the same thing. wich means both needs those anatomy problems to be fixed. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 18 June 2007 at 11:28pm
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Originally posted by Pixitis
I had an idea of 2 colours. So i made a platformer =]. It looks incomplete, any idea's. I don't know making a platformer is a good idea for this challenge cuz it said that it should suggest depth and volume.
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Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:05am
what do u think guys. (its png this time)
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Posted By: sedgemonkey
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:34am
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@AdamPlays: Very interesting effect you've got going there. @spartan: Much nicer now that's 2 colors. ;) @Frankie: Quite the start (and canvas size) you ambitious son of a gun. |
Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:36am
I'm hoping to do a fullsize piece, but until I can think of something good, I had an idea for a small "scene"... The ultimate battle- Still WIP... but I'm thinking of keeping this very basic, should I get a proper idea  |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:40am
 Metaru's list of things to do:
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Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 3:18am
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;_;
when you use colour reduction you make Akira cry ;_; I would post evidence of your reference moon craftily overlayed to show that it was clearly a colour reduction but could you just own up so i don't have to bother? |
Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 3:19am
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Oh metaru! xD es realmente bueno! parece que tomaste una foto de la luna y reduciste paletas en photoshop xD... se que te quedara bueno ;) PD: por cierto este es tu post numero 444 :O xD EDIT: no habia visto el post de arriba xD, em... viste, te dije que parecia una reduccion de paletas xD pero bueh, no se xD realmente parece :O por cierto estube viendo imagenes de la luna... y es muy sospechoso que tenga las mismas protuberancias tu imagen y la luna real xD My work: http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/21888.htm Comment :P Hey metaru, si quieres me puedes desbloquear en el msn, que sino no hay casi ningun pixel artista que hable español :O xD y no se pueden compartir opiniones bien formuladas en mi caso xD si respondes me puedes decir que es eso de canvas, que sinceramente no entiendo xD Adios! Bye! |
Posted By: Lawrence
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 3:57am
I sense a colour-reduction: |
Posted By: spartan_117
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:22am
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Im thinking of submiting mine tomorrow.
Anyway i can improve it?
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Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:37am
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Yes! The idea has come to me! Prepare yourselves for the sequel to http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17319.htm - The Great Duck Massacre ! I'm gonna call it "The Great Duck Revenge"... and I'm liking my WIP already  |
Posted By: Bouzolf
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:59am
Mt WIP so far:
It's called: the butterfly. |
Posted By: Excalibur
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 6:12am
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Wow. Metaru that is my favorite on so far as long as you did that without using color reduction.
Excalibur
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Posted By: Blueberry_pie
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 7:11am
Geez Metaru, I was making the exact same thing! Here's my WIP: But seriously, though. I took a frame from Lawrence's animation and colour reduced it with Photoshop. I must say, the resemblance is uncanny. That moon just screamed colour reduction + diffusion to me the minute I saw it, and I find it very hard to believe that even a single pixel of it was placed by hand. If you did do it all by hand, then please accept my sincerest apologies, but if it is indeed a colour reduction then you should know that you can get banned for it. And especially because it's for a challenge. ------------- |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 8:34am
well, since it's too obvius that is a color redux, i have to admit it, yes, i confess. and also, say that the real one is far from that thing. c'mon. is obvius! don't you ever though that i would be that stupid to post such thing as mine really?. take it as a bad joke, that's all......  note: can someone tell me whats wrong with tuti? ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 8:50am
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ouch metaru, you just shot yourself in the foot with a *really* big bullet =o tuti: nice ------------- http://sj-gfx.com"> 
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Posted By: dragonrc
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 8:56am
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Originally posted by Metaru
c'mon. is obvius! don't you ever though that i would be that stupid to post such thing as mine really? You did post it as if it was yours...
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Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 9:34am
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Originally posted by Bouzolf
Mt WIP so far: It's called: the butterfly. Aw is that for me? My initials are in the heart.
 I like the off choice of colors. ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 10:56am
 I sort of painted over a drawing I scanned for that. http://sj.djbouche.net/b/pencilsh*ts.jpg - source is this okay or what? ------------- http://sj-gfx.com">
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Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 11:26am
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as it is the problem with migo? Metaru, you speak in English because you do not know that I do not understand English, fag!... joke! xD
You also are thief? xD Emmm... that so it is my work? a note from the 1 to the 10 http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/21888.htm Comments plz! :P |
Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:17pm
New edit. Did a mild color swap and added some textures and a frame.
 ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:20pm
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Current WIP:  That "thing" in the blender is going to be one of bunny's ears, and maybe gonna shove in a foot too Any C+C? |
Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 1:12pm
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Originally posted by Setzer I sort of painted over a drawing I scanned for that. http://sj.djbouche.net/b/pencilsh*ts.jpg - source is this okay or what? Your link didn't work (for me), but that a cool pic |
Posted By: Blueberry_pie
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 1:21pm
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Yeah, the link got censored. Just replace the * with an i. That's awesome, Setz. You've done a remarkable job at making it look like there are more than two colours. Major kudos. ------------- |
Posted By: Setzer
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:07pm
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Originally posted by AdamPlays New edit. Did a mild color swap and added some textures and a frame.  that looks really cool and unique, I don't think i've seen much like it, at least in pixel art. And yeah, damn filters. I suppose I should've tested the link first, though :/ ------------- http://sj-gfx.com">
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Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:27pm
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The link is broken, but on the broken page it has http://sj.djbouche.net - another link which opens up a file directory and has the scanned page he's referring too. I think that's a fine technique because it's your own sketch and it's basically like using the tablet. There is also a funny video in the link of this guy having a major spill on his bicycle. YOU FAIL!! LOL! ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 3:03pm
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Originally posted by tuti
as it is the problem with migo? Metaru, you speak in English because you do not know that I do not understand English, fag!... joke! xD You also are thief? xD Emmm... Sorry? ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Excalibur
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:36pm
Here is my new WIP it was a pain to get it like this but I think it looks much better.
 What do you think?
Excalibur
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Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:47pm
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Blue? Brown? Or keep searching for colors?   ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: Excalibur
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 4:58pm
| I like Blue the most. It matches the style the most. rain = blue; lol. There might be a better color but so far, I say go with the blue. |
Posted By: terminal_arcade
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 5:13pm
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Originally posted by Excalibur I think it looks way better than before. Very cool style for the flame and the scales. Maybe try experimenting with different lighter colours other than white?Here is my new WIP it was a pain to get it like this but I think it looks much better. What do you think?
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Posted By: Reflects
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 7:19pm
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Excalibur, i was going to suggest that, but you beat me to it. are you going to add wings? or change the feet positioning(if its not flying) i hope that makes sence :S |
Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 9:58pm
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that so it is my work?:
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Posted By: AdrianJensen
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 10:33pm
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Originally posted by Metaru That's cute.well, since it's too obvius that is a color redux, i have to admit it, yes, i confess. and also, say that the real one is far from that thing. c'mon. is obvius! don't you ever though that i would be that stupid to post such thing as mine really?. take it as a bad joke, that's all...... ------------- My gallery lives here: http://www.pixeljoint.com/p/8355.htm?pg=1&sec=icons |
Posted By: BlackEye
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 10:57pm
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Originally posted by tuti that so it is my work?:
there´s something in the rules about oeaki |
Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 19 June 2007 at 11:09pm
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"there´s something in the rules about oeaki"
??? :P no, i use mSPAINt (paint in spain? xD) Edit: and photoshop for the palletes! :P |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 6:50am
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..Oeaki is commonly done in MS Paint... :/
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Posted By: Excalibur
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 7:35am
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Excalibur, i was going to suggest that, but you beat me to it. are you going to add wings? or change the feet positioning(if its not flying) i hope that makes sence :S Yeah, it makes sense. I think I am going to add wings. Thanks for the feedback.
pixel placement accuracy is a must. I think this is the section skull is talking about. Those are some cool dragons though.I think it looks way better than before. Very cool style for the flame and the scales. Maybe try experimenting with different lighter colours other than white? Thanks. I will try that. I might not change if for good though because I want alot of contrast, but I will try some other colors and see how it looks. Anywho thanks for the feedback.I made a small update. I have been messing around with different scale styles for the body how does this look. Oh yeah and I cleaned up all the lines,
 It was a pain. |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 9:51am
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Originally posted by tuti
"there´s something in the rules about oeaki" ??? :P no, i use mSPAINt (paint in spain? xD)Edit: and photoshop for the palletes! :P It's spelled OEKAKI, guys. Oekaki is like pixel art, but it isn't the same because when you draw in Oekaki style, you're more like scribbling or sketching than placing the pixels individually. It's not the program you use that makes it Oekaki, it's the style and approach. Stylistically, this is more a drawn image than pixel placed, less detailed, and larger. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oekaki - This should explain it better for you. Make sure to look at the difference between http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oekaki - Oekaki and http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_art - Pixel Art . Your piece looks like Oekaki, so I don't think it'll be accepted. ------------- |
Posted By: Varock Shade
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 10:19am
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Originally posted by tuti "there´s something in the rules about oeaki" ??? :P no, i use mSPAINt (paint in spain? xD) Edit: and photoshop for the palletes! :P Originally posted by Skull ..Oeaki is commonly done in MS Paint... :/ I think tuti, you should say it doesn't look really oekaki-ish. Well at least, i don't know pieces that critics claimed to be oekaki that looked even a bit like this. ------------- http://www.mega.freeforums.org/ < PJ Member Dran's Multimedia and RP Forum |
Posted By: DJD
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 10:33am
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Oekaki is like pixel art, but it isn't the same because when you draw
in Oekaki style, you're more like scribbling or sketching than placing
the pixels individually. It's not the program you use that makes it
Oekaki, it's the style and approach. Stylistically, this is more a
drawn image than pixel placed, less detailed, and larger. That's exactly what I was referring to before about FrankieSmilieShow's piece. Personally I'd like to see more of a leaning towards pieces like the Kraken, where each individual is actually placed with love and care for a nice effect instead of relying on large canvas sizes to fit lots of detail and bring a piece together. I don't mean to discredit Frankie's style or anyone else who submits a large "sketchy" piece, but I think it'd be sad to see this as a competition of who can draw the best as opposed to who can pixel the best. |
Posted By: Blueberry_pie
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 10:43am
Excalibur, I am really digging that dragon of yours so far. Keep this up and you might just get one of my votes 
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Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 11:12am
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Tuti's piece doesn't look like oekaki, but like its been traced from a
vector drawing. Especially the wings part. It looks at worst like a
color-reduced vector drawing (I mean come on, you can almost see where the vector vertex points are), at best a piece that was drawn using the
curve, bezier, pen and line tools exclusively. I might be wrong though: Any two-color work thats done in a very clean style can look like its been done in vector... Some dithering here would probably help a lot, but its not like we can FORCE someone to apply dithering. About the questions about the pixel art authenticity of my work: I protest! My work is done pixel-by-pixel. I honestly don't know what in it makes you think its free handed or even sketched. There is absolutely nothing in my piece that looks even remotely like its been freehanded in paint, except the unfinished parts (which are pretty much all gone now). If "chaotic" dithering, or the inverse, the absence of dithering, are to be considered impure non-pixel art, it means we are stigmatizing STYLES as NPA, thus NPA becomes an arbitrary label we can no longer rely on. Where my piece is at now...  Whats left to do is the clouds and the windmills' pales. Got a hard time drawing clouds, as usual. Trying to find 2-color drawings of clouds as examples, but cant find any... (the clouds in the sky right now are, like, my fourth attempt at drawing them, and they look just wrooong! what ive been TRYING to do here is to darken the sky a bit using noise-like dots, and "draw" the clouds by breaking the noise with white blots, and possibly further darkening the lower and upper edges of these clouds. It still looks very wrong, but im getting there... I think) |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 11:48am
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Originally posted by DJD
That's exactly what I was referring to before about FrankieSmilieShow's piece.Personally I'd like to see more of a leaning towards pieces like the Kraken, where each individual is actually placed with love and care for a nice effect instead of relying on large canvas sizes to fit lots of detail and bring a piece together.I don't mean to discredit Frankie's style or anyone else who submits a large "sketchy" piece, but I think it'd be sad to see this as a competition of who can draw the best as opposed to who can pixel the best. Take a look at Frankie's piece and the other guy's piece. Frankie's is highly detailed. It doesn't look "drawn" or "sketched". He couldn't have scribbled all over a blank MS Paint canvas and gotten something with such detail. While Frankie may have an Oekakish or messy seeming style, the detail he creates can't really be created through sketching. Notice ALSO, that rough lines or, as you guys call it, chaotic dithering isn't ALL he does. He's incorporated dithering, lines, etc. and other less "messy" techniques that aren't incorporated in Oekaki. And while I can't really say whether or not tuti's piece was made using vectors without AA, I can say that his is more akin to Oekaki because the piece lacks the detail and pixel aspects that make it pixel art. EDIT!! I'm in this one. Here's what I gots so far. :D  ------------- |
Posted By: Varock Shade
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 12:46pm
 Anyone c&c for this piece (colour edits will follow later) and ideas for a bg? ------------- http://www.mega.freeforums.org/ < PJ Member Dran's Multimedia and RP Forum |
Posted By: Blueberry_pie
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 12:53pm
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Very nice, Varock Shade. So many great entries already... I think I'll join in on the fun too. ------------- |
Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 1:19pm
Varock: You could try a honeycomb? Be quite difficult with 2 colours, but I'd be impressed! 
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Posted By: Varock Shade
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 1:45pm
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Originally posted by pmprog Varock: You could try a honeycomb? Be quite difficult with 2 colours, but I'd be impressed!
in fact too difficult... well, lets say: - im tired and im having a headache - im lazy at the moment - my eyes are sleeping - after a bad attempt of 15 minutes i decided to make it like this:  Im gonna submit it tomorrow cause now i need some sleep  maybe another attempt on the honeycumb tomorrow, but not for now... ------------- http://www.mega.freeforums.org/ < PJ Member Dran's Multimedia and RP Forum |
Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 1:51pm
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wtf? oekaki is one program according to wiki in Spanish :O emmm... I made my pixel art pixel by pixel, and single because I did not use dithering she does not mean that it is not a pixel art. this it does not have dithering, without is a pixel art :
 well, as it is the difference? both they have 2 colors and details with zoom lens… |
Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 2:04pm
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Originally posted by Varock Shade Originally posted by pmprog Varock: You could try a honeycomb? Be quite difficult with 2 colours, but I'd be impressed!
in fact too difficult... well, lets say: - im tired and im having a headache - im lazy at the moment - my eyes are sleeping - after a bad attempt of 15 minutes i decided to make it like this: Im gonna submit it tomorrow cause now i need some sleep maybe another attempt on the honeycumb tomorrow, but not for now... I *really* like that! Forget the honeycomb! Submit that! |
Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 2:07pm
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Yes, don't change the background! Good as is. ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: pmprog
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 2:08pm
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Originally posted by tuti wtf? oekaki is one program according to wiki in Spanish :O emmm... I made my pixel art pixel by pixel, and single because I did not use dithering she does not mean that it is not a pixel art. this it does not have dithering, without is a pixel art :
well, as it is the difference? both they have 2 colors and details with zoom lens… Did you save any WIP's? Might be worth posting one or two (or an anim). Not sure it would really help in this case, but couldn't hurt |
Posted By: DJD
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 4:40pm
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In all honesty, the mountains look like they could easily be done in paint with a relatively smooth hand at maybe 2x zoom. If you take a look at the mountains and the scratchy style I feel it's hard to argue that each individual pixel contributes to the piece in a way that each pixel is a necessity for the piece to exist as a whole. If you take a look at the kraken on the first page there's a significant difference in the pixel placement there and the more sketchy style. Each pixel is significant to the whole piece, whereas in the much larger piece it is individual groups of pixels that contribute to the entire piece. In that way not each individual is placed with love and care so much as each individual section is created with the whole picture in mind. However those individual sections could easily be slightly difference individual pixel-wise. That is not to say that there are certain parts that are clearly pixel art and it would be pointless to do without individual placement, windmills for example. And honestly, I think there are those who would agree that if someone suggested one would make a pixelart 800by600 they would think it ridiculous. Pixel art has traditionally not been meant for such sizes that other art forms would easily fit for because pixel art has been defined as placing each individual pixel as each pixel has an important to the overall piece. That's why it's so hard for me to accept this style as a style of pixel art when it contradicts the very definition of pixel as has been preached by the major pixel leaders on this forum and pixelation. Once again, I don't have some personal vendetta (and i'm not accusing you of saying I am, but I realize I may come off harsh) against you but I feel that this 'sketchy' style contradicts at least the definition i've been taught of pixel art. I don't think in any real pixel art piece you should be able to drag the mouse around and create a similar effect. If this were a multi-color challenge I feel the same 'sketchy' style would make my point more clear. I just don't see any real pixel art as being something that can be created with a tablet. This is my personal opinion, and since the definition of pixel art has been disputed before I think it's fair to express my opinion as to where style ends and a different medium begins. Either way, I like the piece a lot. Even though I disagree with what it would be classified under doesn't mean I don't respect it and think it's well done. Good job to you sir. |
Posted By: Scruffs
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 5:02pm
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It's an understandable argument. Frank's piece looks rather sketchy and uncontrolled for the most part. I'm not going to pretend I'm watching Frank pixel so I'm not saying it's oekaki. Plus we all know you have skill Frank, so I'll take your word for it. ------------- www.jakeww.deviantart.com - www.jakeww.deviantart.com |
Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 5:45pm
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yes! i saved the wip! "uploading xD" sh*t! my mom delete my folder T_T! Noo! hours and hours of work T_T       |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 6:55pm
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Originally posted by tuti
wtf? oekaki is one program according to wiki in Spanish :O emmm... I made my pixel art pixel by pixel, and single because I did not use dithering she does not mean that it is not a pixel art. this it does not have dithering, without is a pixel art :
well, as it is the difference? both they have 2 colors and details with zoom lens… You need to reread my post. I didn't say something had to have dithering to be pixel art. I said that the pixels had to be, largely, placed individually by hand which does not look like what you've done with your piece. Oekaki IS made on an Oekaki program, but it is also a *style* that is not conducive to placing pixels individually, hence it is not completely pixel art. There is no attention to detail on a pixel level in your piece, in my opinion. And I really don't think you need to have such a major attitude. And surely you can agree, DLD that there are major obvious differences on a detail level with tuti's than with Frankie's. ------------- |
Posted By: tuti
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 7:08pm
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Spanish: obviamente, pero si frankie´s usa un estilo, yo uso otro, son dos cosas distintas, en fin yo hice mi pixel art tratando de mejorar pixel por pixel y agregando calidad de detalles al rostro y demás, para que sean diferentes uno al otro, y en fin, yo use el mismo método de pixelar que casi todos. por lo menos no utilicé el método ilegitimo de Metaru Translating by google xD: obvious, but frankie´s uses a style, I I use another one, are two different things, in aim I I did my pixel art trying to improve pixel by pixel and adding quality of details to the face and others, so that they are different one from the other, and in short, I use he himself method of pixelar that almost all. at least I did not use the thief method of Metaru Bye |
Posted By: Aleiav
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 7:29pm
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I don't think it's pixel art. I don't think it's bad, it's just not pixel art. And that may be okay with the moderators of the forum. That's not my decision.
But just because you didn't steal it, doesn't mean it's pixel art. ------------- |
Posted By: Akira
Date Posted: 20 June 2007 at 11:42pm
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I actually believe that Frankie's is less precise (in terms of pixel technique) than Tuti's. For the record, oekaki does use dithering. Often.
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Posted By: AdamPlays
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 12:00am
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I sketched this on paint tonight. Will clean up the line-art at work tomorrow.
 Edit: I think I may have subconsciously copied http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/21957.htm - this!  ------------- And now for something completely different... |
Posted By: Varock Shade
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 2:23am
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Originally posted by pmprog Originally posted by Varock Shade Originally posted by pmprog Varock: You could try a honeycomb? Be quite difficult with 2 colours, but I'd be impressed!
in fact too difficult... well, lets say: - im tired and im having a headache - im lazy at the moment - my eyes are sleeping - after a bad attempt of 15 minutes i decided to make it like this: Im gonna submit it tomorrow cause now i need some sleep maybe another attempt on the honeycumb tomorrow, but not for now... I *really* like that! Forget the honeycomb! Submit that! ok i gotta change 1 more thing. My father told me bees have in fact got 4 wings, not 2. So, i might change that and ill submit it Edit: http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/21982.htm - Submitted ------------- http://www.mega.freeforums.org/ < PJ Member Dran's Multimedia and RP Forum |
Posted By: FrankieSmileShow
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 3:50am
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Originally posted by DJD blah By your definition, any pixel piece that has more than one object, focal point, or even worse, that has no focal point at all (like a landscape or a background), is IMPURE of the pixel art label? That a genuine pixel art piece HAS to showcase ONE object, else its not "focused" enough? What kind of arbitrary rule is that... Also, I find your attitude arrogant. Are you honestly pretending you can freehand that with your mouse, at 2X zoom? That anyone can? You want to discredit my work that badly? It took me about 8 hours to draw this piece so far, and its not even done. I'm very proud of this work, and your allegations are insulting. |
Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 4:37am
Added some eye candy.. ------------- |
Posted By: leel
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 7:12am
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Originally posted by DJD I just don't see any real pixel art as being something that can be created with a tablet. Haha I bet Jal has something to say about that!  ------------- |
Posted By: Varock Shade
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 7:18am
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DJD, Id say Frankie's piece is just pixel art. Looking at his work tells me he just make your art this way. http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/19031.htm - This and http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/19109.htm - This piece are not oekaki, it's a style. It looks almost chaotic sometimes, but then again it also looks too neat to be just a sketch or an oekaki piece. It more looks like the detail and sketchy-ish looks have been added later. Originally posted by leel Originally posted by DJD I just don't see any real pixel art as being something that can be created with a tablet. Haha I bet Jal has something to say about that! It might be more difficult to make a sketch for a piece with the mouse, but it doesn't say it isn't pixeling. http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17131.htm - This piece, and especially the WIP image shows that a sketch that's not made in paint can just as well form a pixel art piece. also, the tablet (as far as i know) only gives a major advantage for the sketch, not for the placement of the individual pixels (for the colouring for example) ------------- http://www.mega.freeforums.org/ < PJ Member Dran's Multimedia and RP Forum |
Posted By: Sirus
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 8:13am
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I know I don't post here much, but I come here every week to view the challenges because I love seeing everybody's work, and I keep telling myself I'm going to make an entry sometime. But I wanted to throw my two cents in, because I think its pretty bad that people are criticizing a style here. Pixel art is art, which from the get go means it doesn't have too many restrictions, at least in my mind. Art should be very much an individual thing. As far as what was said that pixel art "traditionally" isn't that big, or does not look that "sketchy" or whatever... A: Videogame panoramas are pretty big and were/are often done by hand, and B: Who cares what it traditionally is, its great if people want to push it further and see what they can do with their skills. And really... If you tried to do what frankie has there at a 2x view, you would get something that looked awful. There is clearly a ton of attention to detail there. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everybody's entries are coming along well, I may try to do something myself. Really that like that bee one too. |
Posted By: Fraise
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 9:23am
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Horrible Already sent to the gallery, since I'm not so encouraged to edit her... I hate this "style" (if I can call it so, because my work is done with "how-it-comes-out-it-is" style) By the way, it's it...  |
Posted By: DJD
Date Posted: 21 June 2007 at 10:17am
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Also, I find your attitude arrogant. Are you honestly pretending you
can freehand that with your mouse, at 2X zoom? That anyone can? You
want to discredit my work that badly? It took me about 8 hours to draw
this piece so far, and its not even done. I'm very proud of this work,
and your allegations are insulting. Actually I've said from the very beginning that I don't mean to discredit your work, but that the definition of pixel art that i've picked up from here and pixelation would disclude your stylistic choice. I've stressed that it is my personal opinion and while I am not discrediting your skill as an artist I disagree with the medium you would classify it under. I realize it's hard to accept someone as being just curious and questionable when it has to deal directly with your work (especially something you've spent time on), but please keep in mind that I've tried to mention on multiple accounts that I like the piece and I don't mean to discredit your work. It is the medium, not the artistic talent, that is in question for me. I've seen some incredibly talented artists do things with a hand I thought impossible (punaji) and I have no doubt that people would possess that level of talent. Considering your other work in your gallery I honestly could say you have the talent to be able to achieve that too. That's designed to be a complement, not a degrading statement. I apologize if I find it hard to accept your style as pixel art when I've watched people like Scruffs spend hours painstakingly switch one or two pixels around for hours at a time on my monitor. That's what i've come to know as individual pixel placement with love and care, and that's why I developed the opinion that you couldn't have possibly applied that same manner to such a monstrous canvas size. Also I've become used to 1bit pieces using a combination of solid shapes and dithering techniques, such as can be seen by the examples that were posted on the front page and in the gallery. Your style is new to me for a 1bit piece and from a psychological standpoint it's hard to classify something different under the same group that's already filled with a bunch of matching styles. I apologize for that difficulty, and I'll try to view it from a broader spectrum if pixel art is considered to include this style. I'm sorry if you felt offended, but I've stated the entire time that this was my personal opinion of the definition of pixel art, that I've liked the piece from the very beginning, and that I did not mean to attack or discredit your work, but rather better understand what exactly is the boundaries of pixel art. Once again, I like how it looks and I hope it does well in the challenge. |