CHALLENGE 10/15/2007: Selective Outlining
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Topic: CHALLENGE 10/15/2007: Selective Outlining
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Subject: CHALLENGE 10/15/2007: Selective Outlining
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 12:20am
CHALLENGE: Selective OutliningUsing only 15 colors of your choice on a 150x150 canvas make an item on a transparent background which focuses on the SelOut (Selective Outlining) technique.The pixel itself may be a figure, object or anything at all. While overall idea and general pixel prowess is of some importance in getting votes. The SelOut is what matters this week. Rules:
CHALLENGE RULES
EDIT: Rule adjustment/refinements-jal 10-16 CHALLENGE JUDGING
CHALLENGE PRIZES/GOODIES
CHALLENGE VOTING/pixels/poll.asp?id=1058' name='vote' target='_blank'>Vote now for your favorite pixelart in this week's challenge!CHALLENGE AWARDSThe Selective Outlining pixel art challenge is complete and we have three new champions. This week's challenge awards go to the following pieces:/pixelart/25659.htm' target='_blank'>  Up Down Left Right Chu Chu Chu! by /p/9033.htm' target='_blank'>MashPotato/pixelart/25657.htm' target='_blank'>  CLANK! by /p/9697.htm' target='_blank'>Metaru/pixelart/25678.htm' target='_blank'>  Sold out selout fishy by /p/10782.htm' target='_blank'>The_ElderThanks so much to all who took the time to vote and participate in the challenge! /pixelart/25658.htm' target='_blank'>  Vampire Mockup by /p/11794.htm' target='_blank'>MR21/pixelart/25669.htm' target='_blank'> Blue Gelcap by /p/11778.htm' target='_blank'>Koch/pixelart/25542.htm' target='_blank'>
SelOut Bottle by /p/8215.htm' target='_blank'>Beeblebrox |
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Posted By: PJB21
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 2:22am
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hey can anyone quide me to a good explanation of selout, because i dotn know what it is >_<
i may enter if i know whats happening, heh.
PJB21
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Posted By: tuaarita
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 2:31am
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i wasnt able to find the Links-section in www.spriteart.com - www.spriteart.com (site didnt load correctly oslt), but i found this http://pixel-zone.rpgdx.net/shtml/tut-selout.shtml - http://pixel-zone.rpgdx.net/shtml/tut-selout.shtml ------------- I'm running in the desert, running in to the sun, running out of blood and I'm going numb. |
Posted By: greenraven
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 9:28am
St0ven's tuts were pretty awesome. But sadly Spriteart went down some time during the summer. 
-------------  "pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso 
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Posted By: tuaarita
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 9:41am
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i found this just now http://www.spriteart.com/tutorials/ - http://www.spriteart.com/tutorials/ couldnt find the selout tutorial(?) ------------- I'm running in the desert, running in to the sun, running out of blood and I'm going numb. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 10:37am
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http://www.zoggles.co.uk/asp/tutorials.asp?tut=8 - http://www.zoggles.co.uk/asp/tutorials.asp?tut=8 zoggles rocks ------------- |
Posted By: Doomcreator0
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 1:39pm
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Im afraid I'm still not sure what Sel Outline means. Is it basicaly just like a show of wips? |
Posted By: PJB21
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 2:40pm
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correct me if im wrong, but is it basicly shading your linework as well?
(eg, light parts of the image have the corisponding linework lighter, while dark areas of shadow have a darker line)
thats what i got after a flick through the links anyway, feel free to correct me if im wrong.
PJB21
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 5:00pm
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You are correct PJB21. Its not quite that simple and good selout is a true skill worth learning. The most exaggerated examples are seem in Pokemon Gameboy game. They rely heavily on 'bad' selout.
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Posted By: pixelblink
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 6:48pm
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Selout means "Selective Outling" meaning that it is not a simple black outline nor is it use of aa. The best example of this is http://www.derekyu.com/extras/pixel01.html - a great tutorial by Derek Yu If you go through his complete tutorial before just jumping to the Selout bit, you'll understand it alot better. Hope that helps everyone ------------- |
Posted By: eghost
Date Posted: 15 October 2007 at 7:21pm
| Quit nit-picky question...Do we have to have our piece touch all four sides of the 150x150? Or just be large enough to require that kind of canvas? |
Posted By: PJB21
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 4:20am
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i belive its the latter, since most pixel art has a 'bleed' area around it, and making a piece with a square outline (or rather square dimentions) would only add to the complcations and would typicly mean sqewing the image.
however i didnt make the comp, so i suggest waiting for a more experianced opinion.
PJB21
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Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 4:38am
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Animations allowed?
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 9:46am
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Animations are best kept out of it, me thinks : / Yes that's a max size of 150x150 Rules edited, thx guys. ------------- |
Posted By: PJB21
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 12:45pm
| hopefuly ill be able to get soemthing done (time permiting) |
Posted By: Doomcreator0
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 2:43pm
| Thanks for that pixelblink. That cleared things up a lot. I'll get to work on this. |
Posted By: Shadow-gamer
Date Posted: 16 October 2007 at 7:10pm
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I have a question.
Would a submission be allowed to take up one full side and half of two others? Like, say, a mountain? |
Posted By: PJB21
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 2:57pm
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the max size is 150 pixels * 150 pixels, it can be smaller, but not bigger.
so a sprite of medium size, or an object maybe, something like that. of corse you could do a mountain, but remember it must have a transparent background, and as such should be a free standing entity.
PJB21
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Posted By: Shadow-gamer
Date Posted: 17 October 2007 at 3:15pm
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Originally posted by PJB21 Of course the image is still 150*150 I wasn't changing it.
the max size is 150 pixels * 150 pixels, it can be smaller, but not bigger. so a sprite of medium size, or an object maybe, something like that. of corse you could do a mountain, but remember it must have a transparent background, and as such should be a free standing entity.
PJB21 I wanted to know if something that takes up 3/4 sides (leaving only the top of the landscape outlined) would be allowed. |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 18 October 2007 at 5:26pm
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looks like no one was interested in this one. or everyone is working on the PixelWeen ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: PJB21
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:58am
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it doeasnt seam exesivly popular, however i do have some spare time now so hopefuly ill be able to submit something.
PJB21
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:04am
Better chances for color ribbons  *where's skeddles? ------------- |
Posted By: eghost
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 1:42pm
I'm currently working on an entry for this one myself...Just figured I'd post the WIP for it on the WIP board...
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Posted By: MashPotato
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 5:28pm
I've started on an entry, if only just to finally determine what selout actually is 
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 10:07am
there was decision: the pixelween or the regular comps, and i decided the second. SV-000, Based on the Concept drawings found the PSX Version of Metal Slug ( ref ) (animated, of course.) ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: MashPotato
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 3:16pm
WIP; it's Ulala from Space Channel 5  ...what I'm doing here IS selout, right?  ------------- http://theindiestone.com - the INDIE STONE |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 8:27pm
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I love that game. i'll say yes, it is selout in my opinion. ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: MashPotato
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 9:44pm
Further along, only some tweaking left  ------------- http://theindiestone.com - the INDIE STONE |
Posted By: greenraven
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 11:24pm
That is looking mighty fine.  Throw in Micheal Jackson if you can. (He's in the game too.)  ------------- "pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:35am
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Mash I just can't express what a cool pixel that is. You make me feel inadequate.
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Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 9:59am
 http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/25657.htm - Finished! ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: MashPotato
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 11:06am
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http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/25659.htm - Submitted ! No Michael Jackson, I'm afraid Jal:  ------------- http://theindiestone.com - the INDIE STONE |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:27pm
| wow lots of entries this time =) |
Posted By: sedgemonkey
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 12:52pm
Yeah, I'm hoping the lack of entries is because all of you suckas are working on your Pixelween entries. 
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Posted By: MashPotato
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 1:13pm
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I think part of the reason for the lack of entries (so far, that is--there's still some time ), is that selout is kind of vague... I made an entry, and if you asked me I still wouldn't be able to explain to you what selout is exactly... the Zoggles and Derek Yu examples look quite different to me. On a different note, there are currently some entries that aren't following the transparency rules. Hurry, there's still time to fix it! ------------- http://theindiestone.com - the INDIE STONE |
Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 2:53pm
Uuuuh, this IS selout right?------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: Di0xygen
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 3:49pm
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Originally posted by BlackDragon
Uuuuh, this IS selout right?THERE's almost no selout in this , blackdragon. Selective outlining means not having a black outline everywhere, but having a colored outline that changes depending on the color and light, its quite hard to selout something that has a black suit. And those red gloves selout is quite shy tbh. ------------- c==3 |
Posted By: BlackDragon
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 4:08pm
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Oh, OK. Just checking, and good point. I just couldn't understand the concept O_o I always thought it meant making the outline smooter by breaking the outline a bit in places. ------------- "A little pain never hurt anyone." - Blueberry_Pie |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 5:57pm
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Originally posted by MashPotato
On a different note, there are currently some entries that aren't following the transparency rules. Hurry, there's still time to fix it! Fixed u,u ------------- I ate leel's babies |
Posted By: Shadow-gamer
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:30pm
| May I kindly ask why my entry failed? It followed all the rules. You even let some entries through that ignored the rules... |
Posted By: greenraven
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:36pm
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Post a pic of your entry. It's no longer visible now that it's been taken down.
------------- "pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso
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Posted By: Shadow-gamer
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:43pm
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Originally posted by greenraven I would if I could. But I'm not on my comp. Plus it's almost 10:00.
Post a pic of your entry. It's no longer visible now that it's been taken down. |
Posted By: eghost
Date Posted: 21 October 2007 at 6:59pm
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I was actually working on an entry for this and ended up getting a dissertation on the principles and evils of selout...So, while I won't have a piece ready in time for this I do think I learned a few things, and I think the piece will end up better...
Here's the thread ( Only for those really interested in advanced technique theory): http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=5253.0 - http://www.wayofthepixel.net/pixelation/index.php?topic=5253.0
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Posted By: greenraven
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:26am
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Oh noes, it got rejected. Now I'm going to have to go and throw a hissy fit. Nah, just kidding. Yeah, I was afraid I didn't quite get what a SelOut was. It's too late to get it back into the challenge, but at least I can figure out where I went wrong. "I have not failed, I just found 10,000 ways that didn't work." ~ Thomas Edison  Lil help on how this could be soldout?  ------------- "pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso
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Posted By: Skull
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 10:03am
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lol-soldout.
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Posted By: Noburo
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 5:30pm
Before I went and submitted this I wanted to make sure this IS infact a proper use of selout. OOOOHHH YEAH!!! |
Posted By: greenraven
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:10pm
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Contest ended already. You can still submit it, just not for the challenge. And I'm still waiting for a response myself. ------------- "pwnage comes with patience, practice and planning." ~ Jalonso
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Posted By: Noburo
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:22pm
| Well dang... :( |