Looking through the glass ball
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Category: Pixel Art
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Printed Date: 09 September 2025 at 7:25am
Topic: Looking through the glass ball
Posted By: M.E.
Subject: Looking through the glass ball
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 7:19am
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Hello All, For my game I need some glass balls  There will be some with colored glass. I've been working on a regular white glass ball. The most reference pictures I have found had some surrounding reflected in the glass. The balls will be moved by the player and there isn't a chance to get the surrounding reflected into the ball so I have to improvise on the reflection. I have used the following two references: This one is actually a piece of a drinking glass with some grass below it:  And this one is a sphere on a stand:  I've come up with these steps:  This is the latest version:  And on the game grass:  I'm not sure if it looks like a glass ball. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance for your c+c. Best regards from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
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Posted By: FrostPumpkin
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 7:46am
tried an edit :  but it looks like a soap bubble :/ see the shadow on mine, it could help you, I hope |
Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 7:57am
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Hi FrostPumpkin, Thanks for the edit. The light source comes from the right in my game. As far as I have investigated you want me to make the underlying structure to be visible in the glass. The sphere will however deform the grass. But you might be on the right track with your idea. I will investigate what I can do with the original grassland. Still looking forward to other suggestions! Best regards from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: Metaru
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 10:38am
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you would believe me, but i was studiying a glass ball ligthing just this morning... i'll try to se what can I add to the thread as soon as posible sir
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Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 9:48pm
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Hello, Tried to apply FrostPumpkin´s edit. The first ball looks like it has animals inside it (snakes?). The second ball has very little grass showing. The third ball has the colors of the original grass tile in its middle. Trying to get structure inside without damaging the glassy look.  At the moment I'm more favouring the second one. But I feel a little bit as if I'm cheating since I don't seem to get the grass structure right inside the ball. Any advices? Best regards from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: eghost
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 9:55pm
| Best of the three from my perspective is #2, though I think your best bet is somewhere between 2 and 3...Maybe 3's upper portion and 2's lower... |
Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 10:26pm
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Hello eghost, Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate it! Your suggestion gives indeed a better result:  It is better, but I still think that it could have more .... Suggestions anybody? Thanks in advance from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: Hyrule_SwordsMa
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 4:29pm
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I think that it's a very cool sprite. It looks like an old crystal ball. I think that Pumpkin's shadow is really cool and realistic, I suggest you trying to make it similar to his. Cheers HSm, |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 6:50pm
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The glass seems too green to me. Notice in the photos that some blues reflected from the sky is shown. I would and some on the highlight point and accented with a bit of high contrast white shines. ------------- |
Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 2:26am
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My attempt of a sky and a bit of the hedges coming at the sides. Just thinking that most of the time there will be hedges around.  Any further comments? Best regards from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 12:51am
Did something on the grassball: 6 is the one I added using a bit of dithering. Usually I'm not a fan of dithering but I thought I would give it a go. Still, I think version 5 is the best. But it is not actually a glassball, it is more like a marble. Anybody got anymore tips? Should I aggerate the sky? try more darks to simulate the hedges? more dithering? avoid dithering? Again, thank is in advance for any comment/critique you might have! Best regards from M.E. ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: Squirrelsquid
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 2:14am
Posted By: Lawrence
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 4:14am
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Your references are hollow balls with a thin surface but you've put in caustic effects that you see from a solid glass ball. If the ball is supposed to be solid glass I think the environment would be refracted, and upside down, putting the sky at the bottom. Here are some 3D references: http://fritschy.de/LOG/2005-11-05/two_spheres_800x600_3000samples_1800sec_reinhard04.jpg - Sphere on the right http://fritschy.de/LOG/2005-11-07/two_spheres_1024x768_3000samples_3750sec.jpg - Sphere on the right Also the grass looks like random streaks. It would look much better if you shaded it in more detail. |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 8:40am
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Youll maybe find better referrences when searching for acryl instead of glass.. http://www.seriousjuggling.com/images/OtherBalls/acrylic_clearT.jpg http://www.jugglingdb.com/shop/img/product/1462_t.jpg http://www.contactjuggler.com/php/gif.php?imagenum=13113&resolution=images_medium http://www.magic.org/store/images/Acrlic_CntctBall.jpg ------------- |
Posted By: Doomcreator0
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 1:04pm
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I think the thing is still two green, the thing is mainly grey/blue with tints of green in certain areas.
Dithering doesn't work well on this one.
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Posted By: M.E.
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 12:20am
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A big thank you to all of you who made the effort of commenting. This was great help! @SquirrelSquid: Indeed dithering was bad! Tried the darker core but it looked like that there was something inside the glass. @Lawrence: The grass board is 600+ by 400+ pixels. It might be having a new look. But it is so much work that I'm focusing on other things first. But I do agree with you that it is more a pack of worms than grass  On the glass. That actually helped me allthough I didn't went all the way turning the sky downwards. But you made me look better at second reference and I noticed that it was the sky at the bottom. So I slapped some blue in and immediately it became better! THANKS! @Lollige: Thank you for those balls, but I really would like the glassy - shiny effect. I do appreciate the effort! Bedankt Man! @Doomcreater0: You were of big help by indicating that it was still too green. Jalonso had said that as well but I kept the sky small. I enlarged the sky which I think works better now! Also reduced some of the green in the middle and by simplifying it had a greater effect. So here are the latest versions:  7 has more and stronger dark 8 has a softer dark and less of it 9 has an even softer dark but the same volume as 7 I think all three are already much better and personally I prefer 9. Is this a wrap? Best regards from M.E. Edit: Bad text wrapping ------------- http://www.kunststukken.nl - KunstStukken.nl M.E. Art |
Posted By: GeorgiePie
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 12:40am
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Wow, amazing result! I believe nine is best = )
Don't have any crits sadly... think everything got covered really.
I love this by the way, so much like the real thing!
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Posted By: skamocore
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 1:00am
it's looking much better than before...but personally I think it just needs some more form to it...I made a really quick edit |
Posted By: theguy
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 4:07am
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don't add black lines they are too obvious plus its meant to be see through so you probably wouldn't need it and from what I've seen from the other sprites for this game there isn't an outlines
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Posted By: Monkey 'o Doom
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 1:10pm
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I think number eight is awesome; nine is okay but eight's dark areas are more concentrated and less rough. skamocore's edit seems to make it look more like a glass plate with a raised edge than a sphere. ------------- http://pixelmonkey.ensellitis.com"> 
RPG is numberwang. |