jay lenno?

haha.. I'd suggest going for a more fleshy skin tone...  judging from the color of the hair, you might want to go with something lighter.  MAYBE even something closer to the back ground color of the forums.

something seems uneven, though.. I just don't know what it is.

oh man I said jay lenno and I meant connan obrien!!!

I actually think you need to bring the right eye (his left) close to the outside of his face.

Blocky or not, maybe he wanted it to be blocky. I really don't believe it that he wanted it to be real looking or real shape...

Nose is flat, yes. As I can see, there is a lighter line on the edge of noise, but make it more lighter, like you have in the outer corner. And add the dark line into the inner corner of nose.

Maybe add some light line at the downside of mouth ending too, as light shining back from mouth edge, so the mouth would be like more inner.

I don't know what kind of material you want ti to be, but the red part could use some more lighter shine on the edges what you have.

Ohhh...

Here, i made an edit for you. That should give you a picture.

You just don't seem to get the light.

Seriously.

Anyway, I really like it, even though it isn't really the style I like, it isn't that bad. Since I don't really have any experience doing these, I can't crit much, but I know that it is getting better

yeah and maybe sideburns? little ones... 

Originally posted by Dutrho

Minor update

tweeked the shading a bit
and yes its supposed to be blocky

Its hard for us to crit a piece when youre after a particular style and no one knows what that style is.

Theres a ton of things you can 'fix' but if want to look like it does then I not sure what to tell you to fix.

If youre happy with it, thats fine, but you should know people are going to crit with their own ideas in mind.

Good luck. ;)

Originally posted by imaxcs

You just don't seem to get the light.

You just don't seem to have the manners.

Ohh, you are so f**kin right. I don't have the bloody manners at all.

I don't need manners as long as I am alive. Manners are nothing more than pplain words. Ridiculous lies.

There was a world, like 2 centuries ago, in Abessinia where people had manners to tortue people. Local king was entertraining himself by piercing the eyes out of his prisoners and some servants by using pins while he was meeting with the guests of his country. Now those were manners.

You may say whatever nice but if you still piss into another mans well, then better be honest!

I may say "Oh thats so nice piece but maybe you just place that line to somwhere else where it would look more beautiful than it looks now," but I don't, because I feel as same cold as now and that wouldn't be critics to rip his work apart. And besides, being honest is less writing and you don't have to remember anything.

Thats the f**king way of manners and thats how I am going to be!

Good thing it isn't 2 centuries ago anymore then isn't it. And you really do need more manners. Calm down, don't need to get all defensive, he was telling the truth.

Yes, detail in the hair would be nice.

u may not feel that way about manners, however u dont need to be so negative.  u can give people criticism without being rude.

dutrho i like the style of this piece but i think its a little plain more texture and facial details would be good  i also think u cood change the skin color.

I am calm. I only threw those words into to show you I have no manners.

He said to rip it apart and I haven't even started...

woah, let's calm it down, kids..

last time I checked, this was the WIP forum, not the 'let's get off topic and fight about whatever' forum...

I know things can get out of hand pretty easily, speaking from personal experience and recent events.  If you've really gotta argue then just do it over forum PM, but not here.  This is the WIP forum.

Anyways, I figured I'd help you out a bit with more than just some crits, on this one.

One thing you've always gotta keep in mind is the light source.  I know it's not the best edit in the world... but maybe it'll help you out.  I drew an arrow in where the obvious light source is coming from.  Everything flat surface parallel to that surface should use that very same color.

You'll notice I did some work on the nose.  The problem with your old nose was that there wasn't any depth, at all.  You can go here http://www.portrait-artist.org/face/nose.html - http://www.portrait-artist.org/face/nose.html  to check out more about noses and their shapes.  Your nose was more stuck to the side of his face under his right eye, where as in the corrected version, the nose clearly protrudes from the face evenly between the eyes.  I also played with the shadows and high lights a bit... I noticed you had high lights on the wrong parts of the eyes and what not, so I fixed that.  Once again, it's important to remember your light source(s).

Contrast is a big issue in showing depth, too.. so keep that in mind.

yeah, I hope I helped you out a bit.  I know it's your style and everything.