CHALLENGE 6/8/2009: Side Ship
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Topic: CHALLENGE 6/8/2009: Side Ship
Posted By: administrator
Subject: CHALLENGE 6/8/2009: Side Ship
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 12:04am
Elk's Ark by /p/4683.htm' target='_blank'>Elk
mushroom fantasy by /p/16997.htm' target='_blank'>Pixelarg
Our best pilot is a pig?! - Weekly Challenge by /p/17621.htm' target='_blank'>JinnDEvil
SS Challenge by /p/18675.htm' target='_blank'>birkwoodReplies:
Posted By: Game & Watch
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 1:12am
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Is it restricted to "sprites", or is a scene also allowed? I foresee a lot of creativity in this competition anyhow. |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 1:19am
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No, you are restricted to sprites.
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Posted By: Prenn Saranda
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 8:23am
For the challenge, please tell what to improve.
I know it is very simple, and I do think about adding more to it. |
Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 8:26am
| Someone forgot to sticky this, I think. |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 10:13am
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Originally posted by Prenn Saranda For the challenge, please tell what to improve.
I know it is very simple, and I do think about adding more to it. Can I ask how long this took you? |
Posted By: Prenn Saranda
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 1:42pm
| Didn't take the time, but not too long I guess.. Also I'll try do it better, so are going to work some more on it. |
Posted By: zlajonja
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 1:46pm
this is the first sketch:
and this is a simple outline before i go all colors on it: 
not much so far since i haven't drawn in ages. :( ------------- somnabularian insomniac 
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Posted By: AngelOTG
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 2:32pm
May or may not stick with this idea: Kinda' wanna' do something more elaborate. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 2:35pm
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Nice shapes on the last 2 comments, kudos. @angel just make that twice the size so that you have room to elaborate. The shape is wonderful. ------------- |
Posted By: AngelOTG
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 3:31pm
Well, I've been working on another concept as well: Tried (and failed) at adding tendrils to the bottom, but I'll get it! Which do you think is better? |
Posted By: hyperbear
Date Posted: 08 June 2009 at 9:26pm
| I've been playing a lot of Ogame recently, and I think it would be a good place for inspiration for anybody who's drawing a blank mentally. |
Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 9:27am
I wanted to make something with a "Tim Burton" flare.. it is not coming out how I invisioned it.. any ideas?
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Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 10:08am
I like the one that looks less like a race car.
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Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 10:12am
 sketch i made yesterday maybe ill animate |
Posted By: TropicalSnowcone
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 10:43am
| Good afternoon. I've a question to ask about transparency. I am using 4 shades of blue, purple and orange and 3 of green as well. I used my green pallet to create my lil pilot in the cockpit. But when I use my orange pallet as the transparency over the green I get shades of color that are not in my pallet. My question is do these other shades count as additional colors. If so I need to fix it. This is my first entry and I want it to qualify for entry. Thank you for your time. Love the site. |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 11:04am
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Yes, these are new colors. It is best if you refrain from opacity layers (maybe just determine the colors you need to add to your palette) and then pixel as opaque colors. ps: transparency is also counted as a color (since it is a color with a mask). ------------- |
Posted By: TropicalSnowcone
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 11:13am
| Oh ok. thank you very much. Time to edit lol. thanks again. |
Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 12:01pm
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Originally posted by Elk
Love this! It is bad ass!
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Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 09 June 2009 at 1:20pm
latest... suggestions.. please.
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Posted By: Zetabot
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 2:25am
WIP so far. Not sure if I want to animate this or not.   |
Posted By: jeremy
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 2:52am
| Elk's is like mine except he did it well. It's amazing. I guess you're not finished with it but the wood's a bit plasticcy atm. |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 5:08am
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1/4 done maybe thats why i said its just a sketch |
Posted By: Chace
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 9:12am
 WIP (durrr)It's a little simple, but I will try to animate it. any suggestions or comments? |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 10:38am
 update |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 10:40am
That is looking snazzt,Elk.
Lineart ------------- |
Posted By: minipuck
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 10:42am
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Originally posted by Elk update i surrender, this is now between you and jinn. Well im not gonna give up, but there's no chance im gonna get in top 3 (not that there ever was) ------------- http://dragcave.net/viewdragon/G3eW"> 
please click it, otherwise it will die, and it seems special. |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 11:41am
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Oh damn, might not enter! hahahaha 25 colors will have to repxiel with less ._.! |
Posted By: ellie-is
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 12:00pm
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Ha. Just remove some colors man. Like, 9 of them. :P |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 12:02pm
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Elk, how can you possibly pixel on a pink background? I really get blind while looking at it, and it is easier to pick good colors with a neutral background! And yes, 16 colors is the rule. And I am sure you can do that quite easily here. ------------- |
Posted By: Igthorn
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 12:22pm
Its a bit depressing to look at some of this stuff - I have so much to learn. A request for input - any glaring issues with this piece? I want to animate the main propellor, the smoke stack and the flags once I have completed the main image. EDIT - Oh, and the ropes coming from the prop shaft and nose.
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Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 12:59pm
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Lol lollige, i always use 255 0 255 as bg that will be transparent in future XD its just easier for me to adjust the saturation of stuff :D as it is very very unlikely to use that color in the piece itself and so the piece that is around it is centered |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 1:02pm
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Elk, you can just remove the colors and then draw over that version, changing the colors to get into perfection again? 16 color version:  ------------- |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 1:08pm
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That's what I did Look at my finished version on PJoint ^^ |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 3:40pm
Starting to colour. ------------- |
Posted By: lorderon
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 7:23pm
| ill see if i can work up the inspiration to make something lol |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 10 June 2009 at 11:56pm
| Very nice fawful! |
Posted By: DreamRunner
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 5:01am
One more ship for challenge) I think, it's still wip and I want to add animation and may be correct some detales.
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Posted By: Igthorn
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 5:06am
Still WIP before animation - please comment |
Posted By: Elk
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 6:01am
| That's really really nice :D |
Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 8:08am
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Originally posted by Igthorn
I like this piece.. My eye would prefer the smoke trail to be a bit longer.. I like your idea.
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Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 8:08am
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Fawful-
Your ship is cool..
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Posted By: hsn2555
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 10:24am
here is my entry  |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 11:38am
Thanks,Elk and NotLikeTheOther.
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 11:57am
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Some really good stuff, kutgw all.
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Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 12:14pm
I like this one better... what do you think?
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Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 12:52pm
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Here's your ship NlTO ../files/icons/full/space_ship2.gif">  I don't know about the execution. I can see keeping the pattern but its all just too flat and kinda looks washed out. I think you can do the same thing but colored with more precision and style. E: Rough idea  ------------- |
Posted By: orenshtiv
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 1:06pm
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Here's mine: ../pixelart/43810.htm">  i did it even i know i have no chance against Elk :P |
Posted By: NotlikeTheOther
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 2:40pm
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Thanks for your suggestions Jalonso! I will work on it a bit more.
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Posted By: TropicalSnowcone
Date Posted: 11 June 2009 at 3:02pm
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Greetings. I wanted to know if someone could tell me how the preview works. I know how to submit the final piece but not the preview. Thank You. EDIT: Figured it out. Thanks. |
Posted By: Igthorn
Date Posted: 12 June 2009 at 12:06am
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Fawful, lets see an update - I really like the detail on your work. @Notliketheother - Thanks for your perspective - I think I agree Close to final   
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Posted By: Club Beuker
Date Posted: 12 June 2009 at 1:51pm
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Oh crap, I really really wanted to do this challenge and had several designs ready... but then, on tuesday evening, the flu struck.. *sigh* Ohwell, let's hope next week's challenge is as fun (and do-able for me). ------------- Without me, it's just aweso |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 13 June 2009 at 10:05am
Update ------------- |
Posted By: -=casio=-
Date Posted: 13 June 2009 at 10:09am
| this nice |
Posted By: Levi
Date Posted: 13 June 2009 at 12:52pm
| Does this challenge remind anyone else of the episode of Family Guy with "the Side Boob Hour?" |
Posted By: monotov
Date Posted: 13 June 2009 at 2:32pm
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All entries are very cool! |
Posted By: Ninja Crow
Date Posted: 13 June 2009 at 6:44pm
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http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jBaSUV8s-WRYY0sX-4TB3g?feat=directlink - http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jBaSUV8s-WRYY0sX-4TB3g?feat=directlink Here's an entry idea that seems worth putting out. (For some reason I can't get my Picassa picture to show - if I can't fix it, I'll try another photo service) I feel it's pretty basic, but it may only need the right colours. I'd be too unmotivated to finish if I thought this was going in the wrong direction, so feel free to comment and criticise ruthlessly - I'll even take palette suggestions. Heck, if someone has the patience to colour it, they can have the credit - I'm way too inexperienced to do it justice anyway (even if it deserves any at all). |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 13 June 2009 at 10:11pm
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•Use www.tinypic.com •So that you know the challenge is about SPACE ships not just ships. •Use the lineden if you wish to donate linearts for coloring. •"I'm way too inexperienced to do it justice anyway" We'll have none of that talk around here. You will try and try and try until you get the experience. If you dream it, it deserves it. ------------- |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 9:01am
Now later i can hopefully animate it in time. ------------- |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 10:10am
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Fawful, your ship is looking great. I do think you should smooth the yellow stripe in the jaggiest areas on the bow since you have 3 yellows to easily do this.
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Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 10:40am
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Ah,glad you pointed that out.I'll fix that up.
:edit
 Not sure if the shade is too bright. ------------- |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 11:48am
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hmmm...that didn't do much. Maybe bring gold pipes to cover the worst areas ;) Your ship has the general feel of a train so you could add a cow catcher just below the observation deck? It would break the boxy front a bit.  Notice the big blue exhaust pipes do not connect nicely. ------------- |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 12:29pm
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Hmm,i don't really think i have the time to do much of that... I have some colours spare,do you think just adding a less distinct colour for that stripe would help at all?------------- |
Posted By: TotalPigeon
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 4:05pm
I put this together over the last couple of days. C and C would be nice. It is probably rife with errors, as I've never really drawn either a spaceship or anything this size before and I don't have a great deal of experience at pixel art yet either. |
Posted By: fawful
Date Posted: 14 June 2009 at 4:23pm
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FINISHED :D
http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/43923.htm - http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/43923.htm
Whey aye. ------------- |
Posted By: Ninja Crow
Date Posted: 15 June 2009 at 9:49pm
Oops, sorry, Jalonso (I'll try to be less humble in the future  ). Even though I didn't get finished by the deadline, can I still work on it in this thread, and ask for advice? (for example, should I have animated flames from the engines - seen at the stern - and does my palette need work, and does it need a starry background?)Thanks! |
Posted By: jalonso
Date Posted: 15 June 2009 at 11:30pm
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Take it to a regular WIP thread cuz these challenge ones die pretty quick. ------------- |
Posted By: Ninja Crow
Date Posted: 16 June 2009 at 12:14am
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Thank you, I'll fly it over there soon, and er, pretend I just came up with it.... By the way, a nice jaunty new avatar you have there - any kind of good stories behind it? |
Posted By: Rastek
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 4:41pm
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I suspect the user elk has used color reduction on his submition plus some retouching to make it less noticeable. I came to this conclution after he posted a wip in the forum where his sprite had 25 colors, and because the rules said 16 colors maximum he reposted the same picture with 16, with colors somewhat similar but not the same. Then i took the wip with 25 colors into photoshop, and, to my surprise, I got the same colors from color reduction that his new sprite had. Hence, it's ovbious he used color reduction. Here's my proof. version of 25 colors: http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6474/sheep.png version of 25 colors reduced to 16: http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9775/miidolo.png version of 16 colors: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4876/restrict3.png I did use the report function, however it has been a week and no one has gotten back to me about the issue. |
Posted By: Reo
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 5:12pm
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Originally posted by Rastek I suspect the user elk has used color reduction on his submition plus some retouching to make it less noticeable. I came to this conclution after he posted a wip in the forum where his sprite had 25 colors, and because the rules said 16 colors maximum he reposted the same picture with 16, with colors somewhat similar but not the same. Then i took the wip with 25 colors into photoshop, and, to my surprise, I got the same colors from color reduction that his new sprite had. Hence, it's ovbious he used color reduction. Here's my proof. version of 25 colors: http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6474/sheep.png version of 25 colors reduced to 16: http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9775/miidolo.png version of 16 colors: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4876/restrict3.png I did use the report function, however it has been a week and no one has gotten back to me about the issue. So, whats the problem? that is still allowed, he changed the colors of something that was already pixelart and the result was the same as if he'd done it by hand It only changes the colors and not the pixel technique... If you're reducting colors from something like a photo and then claim that its pixelart, that is not allowed but using color reduction to quickly reduce the colors of your PIXELART is allowed. |
Posted By: Pixelarg
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 6:22pm
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:O! that's true!! :O reduction of color is prohibited, in all its forms... because the color is chose for the computer and the computer did technically work repixel again, he only retouch lil imperfections of the PA |
Posted By: Celri
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 11:07pm
You know what - the challenge is OVER - stop nit picking - Have you SEEN Elk's work? He/She/It is a god of pixelling - so tone it down and get over it - sheesh!
There's a reason they didn't get back to you...
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Posted By: Reo
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 6:42am
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Originally posted by Pixelarg :O! that's true!! :O reduction of color is prohibited, in all its forms... because the color is chose for the computer and the computer did technically work repixel again, he only retouch lil imperfections of the PA As I just said it is not.... The thing that matters is the endresult and that you have control over the piece, using color reduction to make 25 colors 16 is therefore allowed. Plus he fixed the errors it brougth with it so i don't know what you guys are bitching about. |
Posted By: Hapiel
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 2:37pm
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I am not convinced, looking at the versions in detail gives signs that it could both have been done manually or automatically. He probably did do some automatical saturation shifting or so, and he probably did not use the same tools for reducing as you do if he did reduce. Either way, I would not call it a problem But: Why don't we just ask him? That could clarify a lot more than trying to see things in an image there might not be! ------------- |
Posted By: AngelOTG
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 5:57pm
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Originally posted by Lollige Either way, I would not call it a problem But... that's not really your call: Originally posted by A rule, as I'm sure you're aware of Any art you post should be PIXEL ART! Pixel art implies that each pixel is placed by hand (no filters, paintbrushes, gradient fills, etc). If he did indeed use a color reduction tool of any form, why would you give him and specifically him a lenience? If a newbie like me posted a piece of art that someone even hinted at possibly using some kind of a filter/restricted tool/etc., it'd be taken down immediately, ay? How is it fair if you play favorites? Now you say you're not convinced, and yet the color reduction and his piece show only a few differing signs. Just a few pixels different in only 3 or 4 spots. |
Posted By: PunkToastee
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 6:48pm
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I believe that you are blowing this completely out of proportion. This point need not be argued as I'm sure that it is completely justifiable in regards to pixel art. Originally posted by Rule Any art you post should be PIXEL ART! Pixel art implies that each pixel is placed by hand (no filters, paintbrushes, gradient fills, etc). You have quoted this rule, however, I am sure that you are aware that almost every pixel artist (Ones on this forum included) do not place every.single.pixel by hand, and yourself probably included. The line tool, fill bucket, the ability to change brush sizes and the color replace tool are tools that almost all of us use. Using these tools make pixel art easier, however, each pixel is not placed by hand when using these tools. Would you still consider a piece that uses the fill bucket tool or line tool not pixel art? The color redux in this instance has been used as another tool to make the creation of pixel art easier. It is not as if Elk has used the redux tool on a photo from the internet and claiming that it is pixel art that he has created. The piece that Elk has color reduced is his own, color reducing it has not given him an advantage over other pixel artists. The pixel techniques present in the end result are solely his own and not generated by the computer. It is comprable to those pallette generators on the internet (The ones where you input on color, usually your midtone, and it will generate a pallette with highlights and shadow colors based on your input). This is a computer generated effect that you can apply to your pixel art, though would using a palette that a computer generated mean that your pixel art is no longer pixel art? Because thats exactly what Elk has done here, his pixel art is still his pixel art. The computer did not generate the art for him, it simply generated the pallette. This is also not a case of favoritism. I'm sure that if you had used the color redux tool in the same way you would not be attacked on it the same way Elk is currently. I find Pixel Joint to be a fair and welcoming community, it is you who are stirring the trouble and pretending that it isnt fair. Originally posted by Angel of the Great Originally posted by Lollige But... that's not really your call:] Either way, I would not call it a problem Without trying to sound like a personal attack on you, because believe me its far from it, an attitude like this won't get you far on these forums and most likely in life either. Whilst it is true that it isn't ultimately Lollige's call, it isn't yours either. It is the moderators calls, and by the looks of it, if they havn't replied to your report or taken the image down, they have made their call. You may not think that it is fair etc. etc. However, the moderators are the authority here and even though you may not agree with their decisions you should at least respect them. The moderators are here to keep the forums and gallery running smoothly so ultimately what they say goes. Before you flame this post, or any other posts in this topic, try to look at the situation in detail. Is it really worth arguing about? Is it effecting your life so dramatically that you feel you must do something about it. You're better off not wasting your own and others time creating arguments over a piece of pixel art. |
Posted By: AngelOTG
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 6:58pm
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I didn't mean for my post to come off as rude or arrogant. D: I'm sorry if it came off that way. I apologize, Lollige. And, addressing your dispute about the tools: With the line tool, flood fill, etc., you may not be the one putting every single pixel in place, BUT you control it. You're telling it exactly what to do. With things such as color reduction, the script is totally automated and all you have to say is "Okay, go down to this many colors". As you've stated yourself, pixel art is pixel by pixel placement. With tools such as the ones in MS Paint, you're the one placing them. Maybe not individually, but it's relying on the creator. With a color redux, it's relying on the scripting. So the basis is: Elk could have made the ark to 25 colors, making it his pixel art. But if he did indeed use a color reduction, the piece is no longer his; it's the script's. [Edit] Also, to address the last piece of your post (which I missed until after I posted this), that's an unanswerable question. No because I could be doing better things, but yes because I could make this challenge prove to be fair. |
Posted By: Pixelarg
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 7:52pm
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Then, if what elk's doing is fine, I could use digital drawing (which is way easier) and even use sai's line corrector, then paint the picture digitally, use color reduction and some retouching and that would be pixel art? Pixel art that I could submit to a challange? I think not. It's taken me too much time to train my eye for the right colors for then being told I could have done it that way |
Posted By: Celri
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 10:13pm
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I have been biting my tongue so far but this is it .... I am going to say it....
1) Jealousy makes you nasty and waste your time while you could be improving your own pixelling by practicing what you preach and showing everyone how mature you are!
2) GET A LIFE! The guy's a genius.
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Posted By: AngelOTG
Date Posted: 02 July 2009 at 10:31pm
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1. Err, jealous? Far from it~ Elk has some great work in his gallery, no doubt, but I'm not jealous of him. I'm very happy with my life and my techniques. Why would I be jealous of someone when I'm happy with what I've already got? I'm fighting this because, quite simply, if he used color reduction it's not fair. It demeans the work of everyone in the competition. I didn't enter, start an entry, or even contemplate entering, so I'm an unbiased observer. I... don't really see how you pulled jealousy out of all this? o.o; 2. Coming from the one screaming at people fighting for justice? Talk about hypocrite~ And: Genius, no. Good pixel artist, yes, but... no, not a genius. A genius of pixel art wouldn't have any contemplation over the validity of his works. :P |