Floating Ruins Shading
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Category: Pixel Art
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Printed Date: 13 September 2025 at 2:12am
Topic: Floating Ruins Shading
Posted By: TheAmazingRando
Subject: Floating Ruins Shading
Date Posted: 18 September 2005 at 9:34pm
This is directly inspired by other images on this site, and is more of a practice in shading and textures with a limited pallete than anything else. Any suggestions on what I could do better would be much appreciated. |
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Posted By: DrunkyDuck
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 5:42am
Here's a quick edit:
I've just added some more dithering patterns in the sky gradient to make it look smoother using the same colors as you. ------------- Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. I embrace my desire to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human. |
Posted By: Wannahlakujuu
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 12:06pm
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Actually, the dithering doesn't look good at all on the edit. It doesn't look smooth, it looks VERY fake. Way over doing it. One thing that might help is making the dithering a little different for each shade, so it doesn't look so much like it was generated. Also unequal spacing would help. The clouds should have one more highlight, because right now it looks a little flat. Keep the lightest shade, and make one lighter shade for the highlights. ------------- I am Spartacus |
Posted By: Citizen_Insane
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 12:23pm
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you dont' really need diamond dithering on this one... I don't think the sky colors are working that well, maybe there shouldn't be as much contrast between the different shades. also, maybe you could define the architecture of the ruins a little bit more.. but it's shaping up |
Posted By: Wannahlakujuu
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 5:57pm
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Ok, I have to comment once more on this. If you look at a great tutorial by Adarias http://gmpixel.com/viewtopic.php?t=1484 - here you will see that you should not dither like that. I personally think that any piece using diamond dithering is instantly ruined, unless it is stylistic, but that is still pushing it. If you look around the site, you will se that Adarias is possibly one of the best pixel artists around. The point of dithering is to smoothen out colors without using a lot of colors like AA sometimes can. Using blocky diamonds, or the bars/ the dithering with dots placed one pixel apart like on the sky in his edit looks horribly unrealistic. While you may not be striving for realism really, it should at least seem partially realistic. Just looking at it makes my stomach churn. I'm not realy claiming to be a great pixel artist (we all know I'm not) but it looks so stupid. I find it to be as bad as or even worse than pillow shading. If you look at the clouds in real life (I don't really get out much, but I still look at the sky) and you squint a little, you might be able to see the individual shades a little, and if you can see it like I do after being on the computer for hours, you might be able to picture realistic dithering by maybe stoven or someone equally great. You would not picture some huge ugly diamonds sticking out around the edge of each color of the cloud. Ok, basicly what I'm saying is NEVER use diamond dithering. Thank you, Wannahlakujuu ------------- I am Spartacus |
Posted By: Citizen_Insane
Date Posted: 19 September 2005 at 8:17pm
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heh, yeah.. diamond dithering, in my opinion, should only be used to show texture. Dithering in general cuts back on color use... |
Posted By: DrunkyDuck
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 9:14am
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The point of the edit wasn't to tell him how to dither, only to give some example of dithering. ------------- Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. I embrace my desire to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human. |
Posted By: Wannahlakujuu
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 1:09pm
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I know, I meant no offense, just felt as though i needed to say that. ------------- I am Spartacus |
Posted By: TheAmazingRando
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 3:50pm
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I'm confused, is the diamond dithering advice here towards
DrunkyDuck's edit or the original? |
Posted By: Wannahlakujuu
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 3:53pm
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Ok, sorry for going off topic. The diamond dithering comment was directed towards him, and saying that I don't think you should do it. Again sorry for going off topic. ------------- I am Spartacus |
Posted By: Squirrelsquid
Date Posted: 20 September 2005 at 3:59pm
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I'm not going to comment on the sky since that has been done before, instead I will focus on the clouds and the floating Ruins; The lightsource seems a bit of, as if there where 2 lightsources, one directly from the top (clouds) and the other from the top right (ruins). Also, the brown rocks seem a bit flat and undefined to me; to improve this, you could loosen the dithering here and there, as well as adding one more shadow-shade here and there. it could work pretty well with your darkest brick shade. |