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initial_reality
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Joined: 03 March 2005 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 53 |
 Posted: 12 March 2006 at 6:02pm |
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Originally posted by Boder Ork, maybe you could explain a little bit more about the code and content pipeline. Like how the .gfx files are made, what MPF is, what the other dependencies are. I feel the same way. Were is the tile map stored rigth now? About my editor: I can place objects in the map but I have to write the code to save'em to the map file. Ork, can send-me your msn? |
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Ork
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Posted: 12 March 2006 at 11:44pm |
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I have started a technical document here. If it doesn't answer your questions now, it will later;) > Boder: Also, what file format are we thinking of for storing level data and user > Boder: One thing I would definitely suggest is to put the tiles on one image > Initial_Reality: Where is the tile map stored rigth now? |
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Boder
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 1:14am |
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I'm going to vote for text files. There are some very good reasons for this.
Binary files are very opaque so you have to document them like initial_reality did in this thread. Text files can be somewhat self-explanatory and digestable by humans  Binary files are not as flexible. I have a feeling throughout the game we are going to want to make many little changes. With a well designed text file you can simply drop in a new section and still be backwords-compatible. Binary files are less forgiving between versions. Easier to debug. With binary files, you have to be concerned with endianness. Best to play it safe. Binary files load faster, but I don't think you'll notice the difference. Remember, "90% of the time is spent in 10% of the code" |
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imaxcs
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 8:53am |
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XML-files all the way. In combination with TinyXML, it's really simple to use and yet very powerful. :)
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miau
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 11:51am |
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I always used binary files in my projects as well.. I was too lazy to code a decent parser/invent a decent syntax scheme for a text file format.
Well, why reinvent the wheel if TinyXML takes care of most of that? Although I'm not too acquainted with XML itself, but I guess it would be a good choice... Implementing an XML based format in Flash should be no problem so level data could be shared easily, right? Well, I messed around with bg layers and sprites on GBA recently.. merely for self-education, not going to continue it and nothing special. Just to see how PJ would look on the GBA. PJtest.gba Works well with VBA and any other emulators... probably :S Edited by miau |
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kwigbo
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 1:20pm |
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The flash game will be using XML. Something to think about if ya wanna try to use the same level structure. Instead of making the levels twice once for each game.
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Boder
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 3:14pm |
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I think it is something we want to think about!
 We would only need one level editor. Has someone started on a level editor in flash? |
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Ork
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 11:05pm |
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XML is fine and TinyXML does the job. Kwigbo, do you already have any plans or specs on the level structure? Could you write an example of a small level so we can investigate further? |
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kwigbo
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 7:14am |
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I will post something tommorrow on the xml structure. Today is my day away from the computer. For the most part.
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randomblink
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 9:24am |
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I am currently working on an XML structure that works.
However, I am building it with my knowledge of Flash behind me... So I will need some feedback from the C/C++ team so we can make it all work together. If you would like to see the structure as it is coming together? http://www.kwigbo.com/ninjasquirrels/FlashFiles/PlatformEngi ne/xml_structure.xml I am going to create an explanation sheet to go with it. If you have any questions, please direct them to your team leader... C/C++ Team Leader: Ork Flash Team Leader: kwigbo I believe that does it for this post... Peace out one and all... |
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Shark
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 9:38am |
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random: perhaps put many of the decisions from this topic eg the
XML choice, in with your stickied topic that isnt for discussion. |
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randomblink
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 12:36pm |
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great idea as well... thx
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Ork
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Posted: 14 March 2006 at 10:57pm |
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Randomb: Nice. So this xml describes all the levels and the actual tilemap data is in separate file? (..makes sense..)
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randomblink
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Posted: 15 March 2006 at 6:30am |
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I will be putting together a description file to go with this once I get it perfected.
The idea behind it is basically that by creating this XML file, AND having the related files necessary, the game should be able to create each map, level, character, etc... SO... I am working as fast as I can. Creating / Editing the actual classes in Flash as I go. Peace |
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initial_reality
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Joined: 03 March 2005 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 53 |
Posted: 30 March 2006 at 5:59am |
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hey guys
I think I won't be able to work in my editor for a couple of months  .
I just moved and I don't have a computer to work. A tool to place
obects in the map is almost finished. If someone wants to work on it, I
can send the source files. It's a Builder 3 project wich can be ported
to Builder 6. Otherwise, feel free to use another editor.Good luck! |
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ElvenProgrammer
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Posted: 20 April 2006 at 5:33am |
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I was trying to compile it with mingw but...
 Where are GetSystem and APP_ASSERT declared? Thanks |
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Boder
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Posted: 21 April 2006 at 1:44am |
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I've been working on a tile editor that can be used in the game for a while. It uses OpenGL and GLFW, so it should be 100% portable, and it currently uses text files which helps with the portability.
Features: * smooth scrolling controls * 2-levels of tilemap (foreground and background) * load map from text file * Zoom from 4x to 0.25x * Message Feedback * Unlimited Undo/Redo * Eraser * Right-click tile select * Tile Select Mode * Area Fill Soon: * save to text file * level boundary marker * increase map dimensions * background layer * load image command Future: * collision map layer * static object placement * parallax layers front and rear * game entity placement and attribute adjustment |
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Boder
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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 11:59pm |
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Here is a link to the editor, try to make a nice background if you dare! The background has to be power-of-two 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256
Download Link Forgot some controls: W,A,D,S - movement NUMPAD+ - zoom in NUMPAD- - zoom out Edited by Boder |
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Boder
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Posted: 02 May 2006 at 10:54pm |
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Did anyone try it?
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Souly
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Posted: 03 May 2006 at 8:59am |
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Oh, I noticed if you hold shift you can make a large filled square.
OK so I decided to read the readme... and I noticed that by holding spacebar you can select the tiles...
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ElvenProgrammer
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Posted: 29 May 2006 at 1:06am |
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Has the development of this game stopped? If not is there any way I can contribute? I could share some time and help with the programming part.
Regards Edited by ElvenProgrammer |
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Demon
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Posted: 29 May 2006 at 1:45am |
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Ya, but if we switched over to Java, we could both have run at developing it.
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