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Atomicrat12
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Topic: Sapphire
Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:18pm

im working on a pixelart of a cut sapphire, but im not sure if anythings wronge with it (flameruler13 helped me, but i just wanted 2 see if anything else was wronge with it)

i dithered it on the new one, so it looks better

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cure
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:52pm

Rule #1: Upload the right filetype. Never .jpg (or .bmp)*, always .gif or .png . Otherwise the image looks blurred and we can't efficiently critique it. Maybe you already knew this, and it was a simple mistake. Either way, try reuploading it.

*Edited to cover all sh*tty filetypes.

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:54pm

First off, NEVER save pixel art as JPG. It ruins the quality drastically. Please save it as a gif or png first, then I will be able to provide you with some good crits

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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:56pm

Right off the bat, I see you JPGed it. Don't do this. JPEG format features lossy compression, which means what we see is not what you drew.

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Atomicrat12
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:04pm

i'll fix it l8er, it'll be fixed by 2nite

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Atomicrat12
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:04pm

and, not like it maters, but it's bmp

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Pixel_Outlaw
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:44pm

Originally posted by Atomicrat12

(flameruler13 helped me

Oh...........

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Skull
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:55pm

Originally posted by Pixel_Outlaw

Originally posted by Atomicrat12

(flameruler13 helped me

Oh...........

And yes, the jpg quality really messes this up, doesn't look much like pixel art down to that.

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:58pm

Originally posted by Atomicrat12

and, not like it maters, but it's bmp

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/atomicrat12/Sapphire. jpg

No, it's not.

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Nitram
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 3:02pm

Well it was bmp photobucket converts bmp to jpg :[

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Monkey 'o Doom
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 3:28pm

THEN USE PNG OR GIF OR TIF OR WTF!

RPG is numberwang.

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Nitram
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 3:40pm

"i dithered it on the new one, so it looks better"

Although I can't see that since it's jpg'd, I can tell it's not gonna look to good since you dithered it. Sapphire's are gems inwhich they are shiny, never dither anything you want to look shiny.

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Bifur
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 4:35pm

even if its jpg i can see u have no care with the real beauty of gems.. the lithg refreaction... search for some ref

I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...

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Flameruler13
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:17pm

Originally posted by Skull

Originally posted by Pixel_Outlaw

Originally posted by Atomicrat12

(flameruler13 helped me

Oh...........

And yes, the jpg quality really messes this up, doesn't look much like pixel art down to that.

all i said was it sucked-fix it and post it on the forum

u guys r jerks

Edited by Flameruler13

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:23pm

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Flameruler13
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:31pm

cool

Souly is A GIANT (and stupid) DONUT MANATEE.

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Atomicrat12
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:35pm

Here's the new sapphire

it's a png now, so now u can look at it

"even if its jpg i can see u have no care with the real beauty of gems.. the lithg refreaction... search for some ref "

i have, i found a picture of a sapphire ring on google, which im going to make this into, this is just the sapphire.

older one-

and, i do need 2 add some light/dark spots in different places

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Ensellitis
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:53pm

The edges that are closer to the viewer should be lighter, not the same color as the border.

Dithering is best for softening the details, with this being a jewel, you may want to dither a bit less to make it crispier.

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Atomicrat12
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 6:20pm

my friend this looks good, bit i want to know for sure

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/atomicrat12/Sapphire3 .png

wat do u think?

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Bifur
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 6:21pm

the limit angle of the spahire is low so when light reaches enters in it , it makes lot of refreaction in it untill its able to get out of the gem ,

so u should make one basic highligh , samaller highlights on the corners followed really black spaces with saturated spaces in the middle

I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...

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Souly
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 8:06pm

Originally posted by Atomicrat12

(flameruler13 helped me)

Well then I guess you're f**ked.

I am the jesus of PJ.

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jalonso
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Posted: 09 June 2006 at 9:37pm

Leave Flammy alone, he's a real "gem" around here.

@Atomicrat12, Try bringing in som whites to add shine and sparckle.
Check them all out since I couldn't quite fint the gemstone one, but its in there and really well written. I highly recommend these tutorials. http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~s-iga/tips/tips&tricks.html

Atomicrat12

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Blick
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Posted: 10 June 2006 at 12:33am

Gems are specifically cut to absorb and trap any light that passes through them and make said light bounce off each flat plane within them to make the gem become as close to its own infinite light source as possible (obviously light is lost since you can see it) and for this reason I strongly advise you to work on something less complex. Find something with a lightsource that's easier to follow (even metal is easier than cut gems) and comprehend and try learning from that. Because at your skill level (and at just about anyone else's) it's going to be difficult to make anything convincing and even if you do, you won't know why it is so and in turn learn nothing.

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Skull
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Posted: 10 June 2006 at 2:00am

Might want to now loose the black outline.

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Atomicrat12
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Posted: 10 June 2006 at 8:58am

Here's my newest work-

Originally posted by Blick

I strongly advise you to work on something less complex.

the main reason im working on this is for a game, and i wanted 2 make it myself, and im not going to give up now. I wanted 2 make it anyway, i like sapphires

p.s. just wondering....... y does everyone h8 flameruler13?!

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Bifur
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Posted: 10 June 2006 at 11:12am

little story:
flameruler13: Hi i need help!
Bifur:heres urhelp!
flamerules13:GTFO *throw help in bifur*

why dont u try to use contrast and maybe white

I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...

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Pixel_Outlaw
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Posted: 10 June 2006 at 11:22am

Flammy is a good guy he is like the low wolf that has to lay on it's back and let the top animal maul it. Sorry mr.13. I don't hate you but your introductory post left something of a bad taste in many peoples' mouths.

Perhaps add some hard shines to the facets now.

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Atomicrat12 Seaman Joined: 28 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Topic: Sapphire Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:18pm
	im working on a pixelart of a cut sapphire, but im not sure if anythings wronge with it (flameruler13 helped me, but i just wanted 2 see if anything else was wronge with it) i dithered it on the new one, so it looks better
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cure Commander Joined: 23 March 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2859	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:52pm
	Rule #1: Upload the right filetype. Never .jpg (or .bmp), always .gif or .png . Otherwise the image looks blurred and we can't efficiently critique it. Maybe you already knew this, and it was a simple mistake. Either way, try reuploading it. Edited to cover all sh*tty filetypes. Edited by ThereIsNoCure
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:54pm
	First off, NEVER save pixel art as JPG. It ruins the quality drastically. Please save it as a gif or png first, then I will be able to provide you with some good crits
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Boder Commander Joined: 07 February 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 112	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 12:56pm
	Right off the bat, I see you JPGed it. Don't do this. JPEG format features lossy compression, which means what we see is not what you drew.
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Atomicrat12 Seaman Joined: 28 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:04pm
	i'll fix it l8er, it'll be fixed by 2nite
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Atomicrat12 Seaman Joined: 28 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:04pm
	and, not like it maters, but it's bmp
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Pixel_Outlaw Commander Joined: 01 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3829	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:44pm
	*Originally posted by Atomicrat12* (flameruler13 helped me Oh...........

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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:55pm
	*Originally posted by Pixel_Outlaw* *Originally posted by Atomicrat12* (flameruler13 helped me Oh........... And yes, the jpg quality really messes this up, doesn't look much like pixel art down to that.

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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 1:58pm
	*Originally posted by Atomicrat12* and, not like it maters, but it's bmp http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/atomicrat12/Sapphire. jpg No, it's not.
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Nitram Midshipman Joined: 03 June 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 3:02pm
	Well it was bmp photobucket converts bmp to jpg :[
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Monkey 'o Doom Commander Joined: 24 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 3:28pm
	THEN USE PNG OR GIF OR TIF OR WTF!
	RPG is numberwang.
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Nitram Midshipman Joined: 03 June 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 51	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 3:40pm
	"i dithered it on the new one, so it looks better" Although I can't see that since it's jpg'd, I can tell it's not gonna look to good since you dithered it. Sapphire's are gems inwhich they are shiny, never dither anything you want to look shiny. Edited by Nitram
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Bifur Commander Joined: 15 April 2006 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 194	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 4:35pm
	even if its jpg i can see u have no care with the real beauty of gems.. the lithg refreaction... search for some ref
	I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...
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Flameruler13 Commander Joined: 20 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:17pm
	*Originally posted by Skull* *Originally posted by Pixel_Outlaw* *Originally posted by Atomicrat12* (flameruler13 helped me Oh........... And yes, the jpg quality really messes this up, doesn't look much like pixel art down to that. all i said was it sucked-fix it and post it on the forum u guys r jerks Edited by Flameruler13
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:23pm

	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Flameruler13 Commander Joined: 20 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:31pm
	cool Souly is A GIANT (and stupid) DONUT MANATEE. Edited by Flameruler13
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Atomicrat12 Seaman Joined: 28 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:35pm
	Here's the new sapphire it's a png now, so now u can look at it "even if its jpg i can see u have no care with the real beauty of gems.. the lithg refreaction... search for some ref " i have, i found a picture of a sapphire ring on google, which im going to make this into, this is just the sapphire. older one- and, i do need 2 add some light/dark spots in different places Edited by Atomicrat12
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Ensellitis Commander Joined: 19 June 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10099	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 5:53pm
	The edges that are closer to the viewer should be lighter, not the same color as the border. Dithering is best for softening the details, with this being a jewel, you may want to dither a bit less to make it crispier.
	ಠ_ಠ There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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Atomicrat12 Seaman Joined: 28 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 6:20pm
	my friend this looks good, bit i want to know for sure http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/atomicrat12/Sapphire3 .png wat do u think?
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Bifur Commander Joined: 15 April 2006 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 194	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 6:21pm
	the limit angle of the spahire is low so when light reaches enters in it , it makes lot of refreaction in it untill its able to get out of the gem , so u should make one basic highligh , samaller highlights on the corners followed really black spaces with saturated spaces in the middle
	I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...
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Souly Commander Joined: 13 December 2020 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2451	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 8:06pm
	*Originally posted by Atomicrat12* (flameruler13 helped me) Well then I guess you're f**ked.
	I am the jesus of PJ.
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jalonso Admiral Joined: 29 November 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13537	Posted: 09 June 2006 at 9:37pm
	Leave Flammy alone, he's a real "gem" around here. @Atomicrat12, Try bringing in som whites to add shine and sparckle. Check them all out since I couldn't quite fint the gemstone one, but its in there and really well written. I highly recommend these tutorials. http://www.tcp-ip.or.jp/~s-iga/tips/tips&tricks.html Atomicrat12
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Blick Commander Joined: 19 November 2025 Online Status: Offline Posts: 389	Posted: 10 June 2006 at 12:33am
	Gems are specifically cut to absorb and trap any light that passes through them and make said light bounce off each flat plane within them to make the gem become as close to its own infinite light source as possible (obviously light is lost since you can see it) and for this reason I strongly advise you to work on something less complex. Find something with a lightsource that's easier to follow (even metal is easier than cut gems) and comprehend and try learning from that. Because at your skill level (and at just about anyone else's) it's going to be difficult to make anything convincing and even if you do, you won't know why it is so and in turn learn nothing. Edited by Blick

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Skull Commander PJ Pioneer Joined: 03 August 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1521	Posted: 10 June 2006 at 2:00am
	Might want to now loose the black outline.

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Atomicrat12 Seaman Joined: 28 January 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10	Posted: 10 June 2006 at 8:58am
	Here's my newest work- *Originally posted by Blick* I strongly advise you to work on something less complex. the main reason im working on this is for a game, and i wanted 2 make it myself, and im not going to give up now. I wanted 2 make it anyway, i like sapphires p.s. just wondering....... y does everyone h8 flameruler13?!
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Bifur Commander Joined: 15 April 2006 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 194	Posted: 10 June 2006 at 11:12am
	little story: flameruler13: Hi i need help! Bifur:heres urhelp! flamerules13:GTFO throw help in bifur why dont u try to use contrast and maybe white
	I know! Leafs shouldn't make shadow...
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Pixel_Outlaw Commander Joined: 01 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3829	Posted: 10 June 2006 at 11:22am
	Flammy is a good guy he is like the low wolf that has to lay on it's back and let the top animal maul it. Sorry mr.13. I don't hate you but your introductory post left something of a bad taste in many peoples' mouths. Perhaps add some hard shines to the facets now.

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