I hate gay hate because it's just as bad as racism, sexism, or discriminating against anything else that someone can't change. Why don't gay people deserve the exact same rights as others?

greenraven you're so full of sh*t.


you don't have lesbian friends :p

I dont care about gay people as long as they keep their penises away from me.
I dont care about gay haters as long as they dont think I am gay.
But hating a person because he is gay is pretty stupid though.

What did you expect from youtube, a bunch of civilized eight-year-olds?

I have a "hate the sin, love the sinner" policy.

I hate to break it to you, but you'll have to get used to that... you can only watch your own views and behavior, let the world be as it is... cause that is really none of your (or everyone's) business... trying to change the world, is trying to change people... people only change if they agree, if they don't they just wont.  Just worry about you not doing things that you think might offend other people. :P



I think actually gay people are being more accepted... at least from my point of thinking lol... there are other countries that have it a lot worse, so you shouldn't really complain man... also I think you shouldn't really complain also since you're not gay (from what I read)... there are many things I hate in this world, but most of these things don't happen to me, so they don't really bother me much... but I know what you mean lol.

Anyways, have a look at this video, it's a point of view from a gay guy, on regards homosexuality and girls kissing... doesn't truly cover much on homosexuality in overall, but it's really ironic and true lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tHppucxMrM




Yes, I was just about to write a paragraph about something similar to what GR said here... seriously, you only need to be a human being to get bullied... it's part of life, it's negative side of it.

...the gay hate is just another number... of the hundreds or thousand of other types of hate and or negative acts you'll witness in life haha.

Hey, I can try can't I? ; _;

Sorry, but I'm just not one of those people that sits around and lets it happen. If I see someone openly hating gay people, I'm going to voice my opinion on the matter.

Guess I was just raised to be imposing and outspoken. XD




Actually, I am gay. :P

Also, true there are countries that have it worse. But there are also countries that have it much better. America is always raving about how much better it is than everyone else, yet they just kinda' "say not do". If they're going to talk the talk, they should walk the walk.


And the guy in that video isn't saying girl-on-girl is bad. He's saying it's bad how the media exploits it for profit.

I mean... it, like, wasn't even hard to pick up on that. o.o;




Okay?

I chose to rant about this and specifically this. I know there are other forms of hate, but I want to discuss this one. >.>




Touche. ;)

I stopped reading after "I was arguing on youtube"

@greenraven:

"Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral."
"All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing."


this entire thread seems like fishing for a homophobe to argue with.

That quote's good and all, but I fail to see how it makes sense. I'm not talking about retaliation, I'm talking about choosing between ignoring injustice in one's own society ("then they came for the jews, but I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a jew") and caring enough about minority groups that one is not a member of to work towards an end of injustice. Or if not, at least see how indifference is not the same thing as neutrality in cases like these.

No one's saying "gays are getting picked on so let's riot", just that injustice is wrong, and so is indifference to injustice. Vote to allow more rights, sign a petition, demonstrate, whatever. No one's advocating violence, so your whole post seems completely off-topic to me.




Edited by ThereIsNoCure - 24 August 2009 at 2:14pm

I haven't read everything here cause, holy crap gaise.

But I will say this. YouTube is a litmus test for stupidity on the internet. Don't take it as a true representation of the world and don't waste your time with it. If there's anything I've learned from volunteering for the gay community and being a part of it, it's that the people worth talking to and arguing with are the people who are willing to change their mind.

1. i don't care what you say, you're not born gay; you become gay when you feel a certain attraction towards the same sex. sexuality is not define by the genitals but rather by the heart (something my gay friend told me).

Take this conversation somewhere else.

Not true. Some people are born with a chemical imbalance in their body. Like hermaphrodites. Some people literally are born gay. Science FTW!


Well, here we go, it was just a matter of time before religion reared it's head.

I'd put out a few Satan jokes out there, but I'm not that much of a douchebag.

@ greenraven: i need to read an article about that..isn't science great? also, please do a Satan joke in case some religious numbnut decides to rear its ugly head

I don't hate gay people.
I hate BLATANTLY gay people.(well not really hate but really dislike and am annoyed by)

The persons that rub it in your face that they are gay. The ones that claim they're being discriminated
on sexuality if they are picked last in gym class while they really just suck at *random sport*.
The ones that wear pink clothes and rainbow underwear just because they want to show they're gay.

If you are gay, fine. If you are not gay, fine. If you like putting your dick in an anthill and rub it around,
fine. Just don't go and bother me with it. If at any point the necessity arises for me to know you are gay, I
would like to know, but not straight off the bat.
- If I go for a drink with you, I don't care.
- If we play games on the computer, I don't care.
- If we go to a sauna, i'd be slightly bothered.
- If we are in the same classes at school, I don't care.
- If you're in love I don't care about you being gay, just that you're happy.
- If you're in love with me, i'd be bothered and we'd talk about it.
- If we go swimming, I don't care.
- Et ceter a.

On the topic of religion vs homosexuality. I personally find religion useless in this time and age. It started
out as a way to explain things in nature (weather gods et al) but we've come a long way since there. Currently
the only use for religion (i think) is to give people something to hold on to and to believe in.
However I believe in humanity and that we keep improving ourself in terms of ethics (check: slavery, human rights,
foreign aid etc.)

Sins are a somewhat ridiculous concept. If it doesn't harm anyone it's not harmful and thus should not be punished.
Being gay does not harm anyone, thus it is not a sin. Killing someone kinda does harm someone. So it's a sin. Killing
a person so he doesn't kill dozens of people over them being gay is a sin. But does this weigh up against the dozens
of lives you save? Maybe. Thing is, sins are black and white in a coloured world. They are too abstract to be used
in reality...

Back to hating gay hate.

I once said that the Netherlands are slipping down because we got radically tolerant. Up to the point where we would no
longer tolerate intolerance. Sounds confusing, but basically there's pseudo-tolerant people out there raging at people
that show negative feelings towards something for some reason.

Some people have negative views. Be it against race, sexe, sexuality, religion or whatever. These people exist. They will
continue to exist. They will not appreciate what your life views are. If you hate them over those views, does that not make
you do the same as them? By hating gay hate you are effectually creating a new minority, you are discriminating yourself.

I say you shouldn't HATE gay hate. I'm not saying: love it, agree with it, support them. I say leave them be, disagree with
their view but do not attack them over it. Hate breeds hate breeds hate breeds hate.

wow snader that was very deep, but very true

amazing how a group can take a simple symbol and warp it into their own identity

Oh, I wasn't talking about the gays, I was talking about the bullies. Rainbows these days are like gang colors. Put them on even by accident and pay the price. Hence why I want the rainbow to be neutral again.

I haet gays!

Jeezuz herbert crabs! Why is this thing still going?! >:O

Eye for an eye bad, k. End of story.