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Climax
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Okay...
So I am new here and as the title implies, I was wondering if on this site "Sexual Themed" content could be uploaded. I am (one of the very few) pixel artist that works on adult themed comics. They are comics books made a lot like douhinshi/hentai only in pixel art form. I have a massive collection of pixel art I have made over the years that I would like to share (both adult and not adult content) and I was looking for a site to mainly upload my adult content on. So I found this site and was wondering if I finally found what I was looking for... Thanks. |
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tanuki
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One of the upload rules is "No pornography. Tasteful nudity is OK, but make sure you provide a warning as to the image's content."
Of course I'm not exactly an authority on this kind of thing here, I'm just saying that's from the upload rules list. I'm pretty sure that the WIP section of the forums does allow what you're referring too, as long as the thread title has a warning in it, but that doesn't mean it can be uploaded to the gallery. At least that's my understanding on it. Edited by tanuki - 06 May 2011 at 7:13pm |
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Climax
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Originally posted by tanuki One of the upload rules is "No pornography. Tasteful nudity is OK, but make sure you provide a warning as to the image's content." Of course I'm not exactly an authority on this kind of thing here, I'm just saying that's from the upload rules list. I'm pretty sure that the WIP section of the forums does allow what you're referring too, as long as the thread title has a warning in it, but that doesn't mean it can be uploaded to the gallery. At least that's my understanding on it. I really need to find a website that lets the uploading of pixel art adult stuff... Wonder if anyone knows of any..? |
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jalonso
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This is a very fine line and where art meets adult is subjective. We are a bit strict because of our 13yo min, membership age which means some younger ones lie :/
The best solution for you is to have your own site with whatever content you deem acceptable to you. In order to share with the pixel community you can share detail/sections/parts of your art that are viewable by all with a link to the adult art on your site...with warnings if needed. When it comes down to it we look and admire pixellin' skills and powers and only then get into content. So if you can hold your own (no pun intended), bring it on. |
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greenraven
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Said it before, saying it again: We should have an adult section. Just have a liability waiver checkbox or whatever. Everyone wins.
Sexuality is a part of art. Why should us connoisseurs suffer because of a bunch of whiny brats and their 'morally righteous' parents. Put the EULA up and let the cards fall where they fall. My two cents, a dime, and a quarter. ![]() |
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Climax
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I find it sad the lack of Pixel Art websites on the internet that don't support Adult content... For this reason, me and my group of XXX Pixel Art comics were truly famous back in the days.
However, I do have my own website though, which you can upload ANYTHING and everything. Though it is well hidden in the internet, it is there for anyone that wishes to use upload anything they want to it. But you will need to send a request to register via the email shown on it. http://www.clan.gofreeserve.com/index.php It is a website that is not limited on the number of pictures you can post, and it is not limited to the kind of pictures you can post either. Edited by Climax - 06 May 2011 at 11:42pm |
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cure
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I really don't think we do need an XXX pixel art section. members can submit such work to their personal websites.
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greenraven
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Yes people can keep these kind of things on their personal websites. They can also keep them in their personal basements and personal attics.
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Climax
Seaman ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 May 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
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Originally posted by cure
I really don't think we do need an XXX pixel art section. members can submit such work to their personal websites. Originally posted by greenraven Yes people can keep these kind of things on their personal websites. They can also keep them in their personal basements and personal attics. ![]() You both should understand there is a big difference between porn and sexual themes... And I believe you both are stuck on the "porn" part. I'm not going to go into detail with that, but I will say if sexual intercourse didn't give the strong emotions/feeling it did... Clothing would of never been invented and people hanging around naked wouldn't be of a concern. Still, don't fall off of the main point... There is nudity, adult, sex, sexual theme, porn, and pornography. And all is a world of their own. And believe me, I know every inch of each of its meanings. Edited by Climax - 07 May 2011 at 2:05pm |
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Alex Pang
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Well I think you shouldnt go past the adult line. Because it could be alitle harsh for the younger members.
Ps. I think pornography should stand before porn ;) |
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greenraven
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Climax, no I wasn't really talking about porn. I was talking along the lines of Royo, Vallejo, and Frazetta. Also I take it by your response you didn't read past the sarcasm to tincle fairy.
![]() Alex Pang, EULA, younger members wouldn't accidentally just stumble into something like that. It's like asking for your id when you go to a bar. |
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Alex Pang
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So you say children don't lie about their age?
Anyways would you like to get exposed to this as child? Yeah I'm going to delete the link when you get the point... Edited by Alex Pang - 07 May 2011 at 4:10pm |
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greenraven
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Again, EULA. If they get exposed it's their own fault, they have received a warning and willingly chosen to open Pandora's Box. I could care less if they lie about their age, all I'm concerned about it keeping PJ free from liability.
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neota
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So you say children don't lie about their age? Anyways would you like to get exposed to this as child? Sure, some, even poor quality information about as important a subject as sexuality, is better to get in advance rather than, far too late, getting a little info in school. Greenraven, your sig, is that four for the price of one ? ;) That's a pretty good deal ;) |
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absolutely.
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greenraven
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Four? I'm only counting three. Unless we're counting jal as a double. XD
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neota
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Pwnage[1] comes with patience[2], practice[3] and planning[4]
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absolutely.
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Climax
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This is what I find funny on every website...
Unless a website has NO pornographic/adult content at all, then and only then is when no risk of a younger community will see it. When a website does have restrictions such as areas in the description where you can CHECK MARK and/or TAG that the image has sexual content/pornography, then you will find younger people stumbling over it. On the internet when you search, if you don't have the SAFE SEARCH on, just typing in the word "Girl" on the search, the very 1st link/image it will show is a naked chick. You can try this yourself. Now if you have adult content on a website followed by warning about it... That website has nothing to do with what little kids decide to look at. It's not the websites problem, it's the parents and the kids problem. SO please don't be coming over here telling me such nonsense because in this industry about porno and hentai or whatever, I know very well. And most of the time, the kids that do stumble upon such actually stumble upon it on purpose... Not accidentally. I can't recall when I have stumbles into a porn site looking for something I KNOW what I am looking for. Originally posted by Alex Pang Ps. I think pornography should stand before porn ;) "Porn" and "Pornography" are not the something. In the dictionary, it means the same thing, only the word has been shorten, but in the industry, Porn can also relate to Hentai, or cartoon porn. As in Pornography goes more to only human-living things and is considered (since it has real people) photography. Edited by Climax - 08 May 2011 at 5:47am |
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tanuki
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Originally posted by Climax
On the internet when you search, if you don't have the SAFE SEARCH on, just typing in the word "Girl" on the search, the very 1st link/image it will show is a naked chick. ... And most of the time, the kids that do stumble upon such actually stumble upon it on purpose... Actually I use moderate safe search and even still google sometimes presents me with things that should be filtered out, but aren't. It's erroneous to think that people have safe search available therefore it's their own responsibility if they stumble across something, and they'll never stumble across it on accident. It's my observation that most people who say things like "most people" are actually speaking from their own experience and not because they actually have statistics to back it up. Your own experience is not necessarily transferable to others, and even if you find it on purpose doesn't mean it's always that way. Pixel joint has a very large number of younger members. It's not an insignificant number at all. I believe allowing this content would be a mistake considering the user population that is already here. |
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Climax
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Originally posted by tanuki Originally posted by Climax
On the internet when you search, if you don't have the SAFE SEARCH on, just typing in the word "Girl" on the search, the very 1st link/image it will show is a naked chick. ... And most of the time, the kids that do stumble upon such actually stumble upon it on purpose... Actually I use moderate safe search and even still google sometimes presents me with things that should be filtered out, but aren't. It's erroneous to think that people have safe search available therefore it's their own responsibility if they stumble across something, and they'll never stumble across it on accident. It's my observation that most people who say things like "most people" are actually speaking from their own experience and not because they actually have statistics to back it up. Your own experience is not necessarily transferable to others, and even if you find it on purpose doesn't mean it's always that way. Pixel joint has a very large number of younger members. It's not an insignificant number at all. I believe allowing this content would be a mistake considering the user population that is already here. Well hey, don't get me wrong now... I'm no one to be intruding into you guys website and demand that adult content should or must be added or anything. I'm not going on that road at all, I'm simply just saying that the only way to keep 18+ content out of any website is by simply never having it on the website to begin with. I have many pixel arts I have made in the past that doesn't have anything to do with adult content, so I'm cool. I just wanted to point out that there is no such thing as a "safe" website for the under-aged unless the website sorely restricts adult content to it. On a side note, how long does the "AWAITING APPROVAL" last? I have had my things up on there for like... 4 days now. Or does it normally take long? Edited by Climax - 08 May 2011 at 10:58am |
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greenraven
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Originally posted by tanuki Pixel joint has a very large number of younger members. It's not an insignificant number at all. I believe allowing this content would be a mistake considering the user population that is already here. Allow me to demonstrate my point... ![]() Tell me exactly where you can find the strip club. (Not simply the gallery of the artist who made it, but where is it from and where it belongs.) I'm willing to bet it will take you at least half an hour to find it, if at all. edit: Approval time varies. We have a voting system.
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Climax
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Originally posted by greenraven [QUOTE=tanuki] ![]() That actually looks really nice. And a "voting system"?.. Never seen one of those before, well, as in the actual community selecting what should and should not be added though. |
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greenraven
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We have what we call a queue. Basically members vote on pieces and then the mods approve the ones with the highest score. It's like a pixel version of American Idol.
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Climax
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Originally posted by greenraven It's like a pixel version of American Idol. ![]() LOL! That makes sense, in that case, I'll just have to wait then. |
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jeremy
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PJ is open to 13 year olds and above (though younger people can lurk ofc) so the site content has to reflect that - chaste-ish nudity that you could see on TV. I can't see any issues with work like Royo's, Vallejo's or Frazetta's getting in either gr :L
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Climax
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Originally posted by Jeremy PJ is open to 13 year olds and above (though younger people can lurk ofc) so the site content has to reflect that - chaste-ish nudity that you could see on TV. I can't see any issues with work like Royo's, Vallejo's or Frazetta's getting in either gr :L This site could have nudity or explicit content with just a simple warning "check box" added into the image descriptions. Any under age that "strolls" by the image, is their problem, not the sites. |
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jeremy
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That's not very fair on the two mods under 18 though, is it? We should always have the ability to effectively manage the queue etc. What about the people who don't have an age in their profile, or lie about it? There's also the fact of a quite subjective view of what is/isn't pornographic - as we can see in this very thread.
And there quite frankly isn't the interest here for x-rated PA to warrant such a feature. |
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Climax
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Originally posted by Jeremy That's not very fair on the two mods under 18 though, is it? We should always have the ability to effectively manage the queue etc. What about the people who don't have an age in their profile, or lie about it? There's also the fact of a quite subjective view of what is/isn't pornographic - as we can see in this very thread. And there quite frankly isn't the interest here for x-rated PA to warrant such a feature. Speak for yourself... But those that might want the X-Rated material might not bother asking for it since they came to this site with it not approved. Those that lie, lie to themselves. This is the internet, where everyone is anyone and everyone can be no one. And it is very fair, because those that are under 18 should be studding instead of looking around for other forms of "entertainment". |
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neota
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What an unfortunate typo ;)
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absolutely.
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Climax
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Originally posted by neota What an unfortunate typo ;) ...? |
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greenraven
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Originally posted by Jeremy And there quite frankly isn't the interest here for x-rated PA to warrant such a feature. That you know of. Not everyone is a loudmouth like me. ![]() The truth is that most people are ashamed or embarrassed to admit that they look at porn (especially when fetishes are involved). It's hard to estimate interest or demand when people are afraid of soiling their public reputation. I'm willing to bet money on the fact that there are more PJ members who want x-rated content than those who don't. The problem is getting them to come forward and admit it. No one is going to own up to getting all hot and bothered watching tranny porn. ![]() |
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Climax
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Originally posted by greenraven The truth is that most people are ashamed or embarrassed to admit that they look at porn (especially when fetishes are involved). It's hard to estimate interest or demand when people are afraid of soiling their public reputation. That's my whole point. Edited by Climax - 09 May 2011 at 9:20am |
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jalonso
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PJ has no problem with nudity or even risque material and the gallery has many pieces that fall into a 'grey' area. Most often the quality is a deciding factor. Some pieces like the art shown above (by me) is not sexual in nature in that its not showing any sexual/pornographic imagery, even though it is obviously of a sexual nature. We only draw the line where a piece just reads as crossing the line, any penetration, for example. We are not always right and these calls are always subjective and dealt on a piece by piece basis. Even when something 'questionable' is added because we felt it was ok to include, if enough members complain then we sometimes remove. There is one piece in the whole PJ gallery that is probably in the pornographic side of things but no one has ever complained about it and it was added years ago (PJ members, let the hunt begin). Again, on a case by case basis because all art demands it.
Above all else, pixel quality and skills rule the day. From simplistic pixelling to the very complex is not what's important. Its the pixelart that in the end matters. Imo, before this thread continues into a subject we have thought through plenty of times and because I've yet to read anything posted that is of worthy consideration on our current opinions on questionable piece (PJ is always open to rule modifications. PJ is community driven and the staff are only hall monitors not the 'man'). For this reason please post a sample of your pixelart (for all ages-PG) where you feel your skills are showcased. We can take things from there... can't wait to see :) |
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greenraven
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Originally posted by jalonso There is one piece in the whole PJ gallery that is probably in the pornographic side of things but no one has ever complained about it and it was added years ago (PJ members, let the hunt begin). ![]() Di0x's penis for $500 Trebek. |
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jalonso
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fail!
A penis on its own is not pornographic. Especially, a cartoony one as that is. Edited by jalonso - 09 May 2011 at 10:41am |
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Climax
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Originally posted by jalonso PJ has no problem with nudity or even risque material and the gallery has many pieces that fall into a 'grey' area. Most often the quality is a deciding factor. Some pieces like the art shown above (by me) is not sexual in nature in that its not showing any sexual/pornographic imagery, even though it is obviously of a sexual nature. We only draw the line where a piece just reads as crossing the line, any penetration, for example. We are not always right and these calls are always subjective and dealt on a piece by piece basis. Even when something 'questionable' is added because we felt it was ok to include, if enough members complain then we sometimes remove. There is one piece in the whole PJ gallery that is probably in the pornographic side of things but no one has ever complained about it and it was added years ago (PJ members, let the hunt begin). Again, on a case by case basis because all art demands it. Above all else, pixel quality and skills rule the day. From simplistic pixelling to the very complex is not what's important. Its the pixelart that in the end matters. Imo, before this thread continues into a subject we have thought through plenty of times and because I've yet to read anything posted that is of worthy consideration on our current opinions on questionable piece (PJ is always open to rule modifications. PJ is community driven and the staff are only hall monitors not the 'man'). For this reason please post a sample of your pixelart (for all ages-PG) where you feel your skills are showcased. We can take things from there... can't wait to see :) You're way of creating sentences and explaining ideals and your details is pretty impressive. Nice to see someone with such skill in pixel art be able to calmly express what they believe without sniping, trolling, or flaming. I like that and well done, respect to you. However, I seriously don't think I can show my "main" adult content... But I will show you this one: ![]() It's a simple pixel art with nothing advanced or anything about it. However, keep in mind this is really nothing compared to what I create in my line of work... Also, my main Pixel Art that is based on Adult content is not raping and blood and all that crap... It's more like 2 individuals making love. Edited by Climax - 09 May 2011 at 10:48am |
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greenraven
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The only other controversial old piece I can think of is this one...
![]() Unless it's the one where Abe Lincoln is having sex with Superman... ![]() There's the zombie love making, the original only had nipples, so that's pretty tame... ![]() |
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jalonso
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I consider myself the Nostralonso of the PJ gallery and once again I just knew where this was going.
If you submitted an animation with a Mario, riding a dragon holding a Pokeball that evolves into Mewtwo with a cloudy sky background using secondary lighting with your current skills it would be sent back for quality reasons. Beacuse we don't go by content. The anatomy is poor, the banding, jagginess, pillowshadi-ish overall quality needs revision. You have used a useless BG not because its a single shade but because its not a canvas, its simply a BG parameter. On subject matter, the guys pants should have some creases to indicate the 'action' Her boobs simply would not look like that if pressed. The shorts being cut off where they are is simply a poor design choice. His far hand is completely wrong. Additionally, he doesn't read old and she doesn't read hot and neither reads horny. This has nothing to do with pixel style, simplicity or complexity. Only technique!!! Many PJ members make art other than pixelart. Other art forms are not an assurance of pixelart talent. I've seen kickass NPA art by members that are not as adept with pixel pushing. For example, I am a world class air guitarist but can't play music...apples and oranges. Earlier you mentioned about a labeling system for the truly questionable pieces and in fact we do have this system. On a case by case basis. We look at the pixelling quality above the content on any piece. I will ruin the PJ member hunt for that elusive piece I mentioned. Make special note of the preview icon and its 'adult theme' label. Also, notice that the piece itself is well pixelled and is making some type of commentary beyond the obvious act. It is sexual but not pornographic because its making a statement on some human condition. It is not the act that's the story there its the questions that it poses. Is that his bunkmate?. Why a gun? Why is he there? A dozen liquor bottles...is his penis even erect after that? Are they secret boyfriends? If so, is he cheating as she is female? Is that his wife, girlfriend, hooker or inflatable doll?...she is quite stiff..Is she dead? O.O. Why do 2 men living in these conditions have a painting of a landscape and not some car or other manly subject, are they a secret couple playing house? Don't ask, don't tell. What's with the note...what's on it...a contract?. I'm leaving off another 50 questions I can think off. Click HERE to see it. In comparison I see no story in your sample and if your quest is to work within the subject of love and lovin' then I just don't see it at all. The forum and gallery is full of tutorials and help threads for all kinds of pixelart techniques and you are encouraged to view and review these in a serious attempt to improve the pixelart if you feel your comics are best presented using this medium. If you don't have the patience for it then perhaps you need to "create in your line of work", which you feel is really something. It never hurts to learn new things so learning to pixel should be good and worthwhile. In conclusion, for the time being PJ will not be altering their submission guidelines in any way. ps: Please don't take any comment regarding your art as a personal attack against you by me. I really had no choice but to respond firmly and explain myself (for myself and the rest of the Mod crew) regarding your major questions and hopefully let you see that there is a place for any subject in pixelart even adult ones... one last time... its all about them frikkin skillz :) Edited by jalonso - 09 May 2011 at 11:35am |
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Climax
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Originally posted by jalonso I consider myself the Nostralonso of the PJ gallery and once again I just knew where this was going. If you submitted an animation with a Mario, riding a dragon holding a Pokeball that evolves into Mewtwo with a cloudy sky background using secondary lighting with your current skills it would be sent back for quality reasons. The anatomy is poor, the banding, jagginess, pillowshadi-ish overall quality needs revision. You have used a useless BG not because its a single shade but because its not a canvas, its simply a BG parameter. On subject matter, the guys pants should have some creases to indicate the 'action' Her boobs simply would not look like that if pressed. The shorts being cut off where they are is simply a poor design choice. His far hand is completely wrong. Additionally, he doesn't read old and she doesn't read hot and neither reads horny. This has nothing to do with pixel style, simplicity or complexity. Only technique!!! Many PJ members make art other than pixelart. Other art forms are not an assurance of pixelart talent. I've seen kickass NPA art by members that are not as adept with pixel pushing. For example, I am a world class air guitarist but can't play music...apples and oranges. Earlier you mentioned about a labeling system for the truly questionable pieces and in fact we do have this system. On a case by case basis. We look at the pixelling quality above the content on any piece. I will ruin the PJ member hunt for that elusive piece I mentioned. Make special note of the preview icon and its 'adult theme' label. Also, notice that the piece itself is well pixelled and is making some type of commentary beyond the obvious act. It is sexual but not pornographic because its making a statement on some human condition. It is not the act that's the story there its the questions that it poses. Is that his bunkmate?. Why a gun? Why is he there? A dozen liquor bottles...is his penis even erect after that? Are they secret boyfriends? If so, is he cheating as she is female? Is that his wife, girlfriend, hooker or inflatable doll?...she is quite stiff..Is she dead? O.O. Why do 2 men living in these conditions have a painting of a landscape and not some car or other manly subject, are they a secret couple playing house? What's with the note...what's on it...a contract?. I'm leaving off another 50 questions I can think off. Click HERE to see it. In comparison I see no story in your sample and if your quest is to work within the subject of love and lovin' then I just don't see it at all. The forum and gallery is full of tutorials and help threads for all kinds of pixelart techniques and you are encouraged to view and review these in a serious attempt to improve the pixelart if you feel your comics are best presented using this medium. If you don't have the patience for it then perhaps you need to "create in your line of work", which you feel is really something. It never hurts to learn new things so learning to pixel should be good and worthwhile. In conclusion, for the time being PJ will not be altering their submission guidelines in any way. ps: Please don't take any comment regarding your art as a personal attack against you by me. I really had no choice but to respond firmly and explain myself (for myself and the rest of the Mod crew) regarding your major questions and hopefully let you see that there is a place for any subject in pixelart even adult ones... one last time... its all about them frikkin skillz :) Well my friend, if you are going to base everything on "skill", you're rather not consider yourself human. In fact, that little pixel art I gave of the guy and the girl is a simple pixel art design I some what came up with myself. I can make it all kick ass and make it highly realistic and all, but I'm not a show off and don't necessary desire to spend too much time on these kinds of work simply because they don't pay my bills. Now if I was getting paid for it, you would see a whole new universe. And anyway, I just made that pixel art like right now... As an example. Now I am not offended by your comment, because it seems to me you want "skill" and confuse "skill" with originality, but still... Stating that it "all comes down to skill" just makes you look like someone trying to prove something which I seriously don't care about. On that note, I don't think you know my level in pixel arts to judge me by one quick and simple image I just posted to show something that you didn't even consider. I posted to show WHAT SHOULD NOT be adult content, not to show my epic skills to anyone or anything of that matter. I hope you understand. Edited by Climax - 09 May 2011 at 11:42am |
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jalonso
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I completely understand. I am very human and sensitive. I must step outside myself when reviewing art to be submitted to the gallery. I must go by pixel skills above all or many pieces would never be added by me. I hate dolls, I dislike most realistic pixel scenes, I abhor D+D/runescape/Knightly type crap. I detest real life portraits in pixels. I can't stand wees and lil'dudes. I actually dislike a lot of stuff in the gallery. It would be unfair for me to bring these biases into my Mod duties. I must separate myself and in doing so only the techniques are left. I have nothing to prove. I let my gallery speak for me. If anyone ever listens to what I have to say its because my art, creativity and talent back me up. I have a lot to improve on and continuously work on getting better and improving my pixels. I am not presenting myself as the 'man' I am a humble hall monitor making sure the traffic flows smoothly. If it means writing lengthly comments and explanations instead of pixelling and being creative with my own work. I knew and accepted this when agreeing to be a Mod.
I asked you to show your skills. You decided that was it. I replied on it under these self imposed guidelines for fairness. Being kickass and highly realistic has nothing to do with it. In my most human, emo, personal taste I think this ![]() is far better than this ![]() I added both to the gallery. I judged both on skill and technique first. After that I fav'd, rated the first and praised it highly with my comments on the piece. Because I love tiny pure pixels and the level of creativity and talent shown is way, way up there. The second I actually didn't fave as I don't like the image, the content, the colors, etc., to me its real ugly, vain, and silly. I do however see the talent, creativity and rated the piece really high accordingly as a fellow artist and not a Mod. Sadly, over time I have come to judge most artists on just viewing a single piece. I actually knew your skill level before you posted your sample. I also knew pretty much what your response would be. That's why I started with... "I consider myself the Nostralonso of the PJ gallery and once again I just knew where this was going." For the time being we will have to agree to disagree on these things and let it be. |
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Climax
Seaman ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 May 2011 Online Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
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Originally posted by jalonso "I consider myself the Nostralonso of the PJ gallery and once again I just knew where this was going." I could tell you what you seem to me at the moment, but I think I would be acting rude for some reason. My conversion with you is over, congratulations. Originally posted by jalonso Sadly, over time I have come to judge most artists on just viewing a single piece. I actually knew your skill level before you posted your sample. I also knew pretty much what your response would be. If you were God, I would believe that, but since your not, your considered an idiot to me. But hey, don't be offended, by the way to typed on your 1s reply I already knew how you are (sarcasm). Good day. Edited by Climax - 09 May 2011 at 12:21pm |
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jalonso
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Your call
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