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xxmantisxx
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I made this, and I need some help with it.
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Friend
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hey nice start! I noticed a few tiny things that can be fixed. The mouth is a bit too high, the ears are too small and not placed the best. And one eye is taller than the other.
![]() haha evil brows Edited by Frost Butt - 06 November 2011 at 10:57am |
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cure
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using a reference would ensure a much better likeness.
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xxmantisxx
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Those ears are huge, frost.
![]() Fixed the addressed problems, better? |
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Friend
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they aren't huge, yours are just tiiiiiiiiiiiiny. Trust me.
Go look at your face in a mirror. See where the bottom of your ear lines up to your face, and where the top lines up to your face. I used my ears in my edit, and my ears are pretty small. Edited by Frost Butt - 06 November 2011 at 4:18pm |
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xxmantisxx
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Alright, here.
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xxmantisxx
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Update:
![]() It's eyes! What have I done to it's eyes?! |
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coolsarahkry
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I like the other one a lot better.
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xxmantisxx
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Well, I have no idea where to go with it! I need advice!
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coolsarahkry
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Well, we could help you a lot more if you gave us a picture of your face. You could probably submit that other one already, or you could add a body to it.
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cure
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what's the angle? either the face is too low (if we're seeing the head from above a bit) or the hairline is way too low (if the face is supposed to be straight-ahead). the nose is too low either way, and the jaw has no shape, it's just the bottom of an oval. the ears are a mess.
use a reference also floating heads are weird and don't read as finished pieces. try a portrait down to the shoulders. Edited by cure - 12 November 2011 at 12:45pm |
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xxmantisxx
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I must've been tired when I made that newer one...
Back to the old one! Alright, here's a picture of me, which is now me reference. ![]() ^Old picture^ Current version. ![]() |
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cure
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would better to get a reference that matches your image. aka the entire head, preferably at the angle you're trying to depict.
that aside, you're giving yourself anime eyes, and the jaw is too round (look at skulls to better understand the shape/planes of the jaw). use of black is too strong. |
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xxmantisxx
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Should I not use anime eyes? That was my initial intention.
I used a skull, thanks for that info, here. ![]() |
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jeremy
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You just changed literally 4 pixels and a colour. Make your changes more extreme, you're using a digital form of art, so you can afford to be daring.
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Partack
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Originally posted by Jeremy just make sure to save a copy of the previous version in case you don't like the extreme changes. lulul.
You just changed literally 4 pixels and a colour. Make your changes more extreme, you're using a digital form of art, so you can afford to be daring. |
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xxmantisxx
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Originally posted by Jeremy You just changed literally 4 pixels and a colour. Make your changes more extreme, you're using a digital form of art, so you can afford to be daring. Sometimes, a small change is all you need in precise arts. ![]() |
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Partack
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*Twack!* Don't be scared of change when it comes to a digital art form. You can always undo if you don't like it. In digital art embrace change, learn from it and good things will come from it.
I present to you a picture from a thread on this forum a few blocks down. (http://www.pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13195&PN=2) ![]() What a difference it made to the same picture, yes? changing the contrast and shaping some things here and there (Resizing the castle too) has made a completely different feeling to this picture but it's the same picture. You're right about small changes making a big difference sometimes, but this is not one of those times because there's not much to differentiate from the other one.. both faces look the same and give the same feeling. In the picture above the mood was dramatically changed from a few simple changes. Go crazy, make several versions and see what comes of it. if you still like the original, at least you will know WHY you still like it better than your changes. I like this face, but it could use some more UNPH. I would suggest playing with the eyes. try going bigger, try going smaller, try going for realism, try going for OMFG ANIME KAWAII eyes. come on, be creative. It's all in fun, right? Edited by Partack - 14 November 2011 at 3:42pm |
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xxmantisxx
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You know, every time I come to the WIP forum for advice, you all give me all the advice I need for the current piece, and then you give me something more to feed off of for every piece I make. Here's another version, I played with the eyes a good bit before deciding on this.
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Friend
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dude, you need to pay more attention to your own face. Your eyes are very straight-set. Why did you make your eyes diagonal? Ears are still really weird. Again, just look at your own face. And it'd help if you give everyone a better picture of your face that shows your whole head
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xxmantisxx
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I used some different references, and came up with this.
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cure
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better. a little. pay attention to the hair on the side of the head,
right now it's receding, we shouldn't see that much skin on the sides of
the face. nose still looks a pixel or so too high. ears are sort of
melting into the head right now.
the nose is not just a ball, it has its own anatomy. palette needs more contrast. aa on the jawline is too heavy, less is more. hue shifting seems a bit too extreme, hair should be brown rather than purple. lighting/angle/crop of the reference doesn't match the pixel. why not just take a better reference image? ![]() ![]() Edited by cure - 15 November 2011 at 1:58pm |
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xxmantisxx
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Thanks soooooo much for that edit!As I said, I've started using various references to get precise results, with similar light sources.
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