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Quote crozier Replybullet Topic: Color assistance
    Posted: 06 January 2013 at 1:23pm
Alright, so I came back to an old piece of mine to finish, and I dunno, I can't find the right colors for it. Traditional browns/greens? Purples and greens? Reds and greens? I don't really know XD The contrast is also tricky for me.
Playing around with purples.
And the low contrast sad saturation mix of my original colors.

notes the purple color and green color are neutralizers on the stepping stones (bad idea since colors aren't final...)
I'm not using anyone's palettes or anything, but if my memory serves me the original colors were Buloght's.
Also a link to the original piece I did http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/71746.htm

So if some advice could be thrown my way on this matter, I would greatly appreciate it!
And cc on any non-color stuff too would be fantastic. Cause I'm debating if I should ditch the stepping stones and add more grave markers and that kinda stuff. Thanks.

EDIT: perhaps a little better.

Edited by crozier - 06 January 2013 at 1:40pm
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Quote Mr.Fahrenheit Replybullet Posted: 06 January 2013 at 5:15pm
The perspective is all over the place. The tree looks like it is viewed from the side while the fence looks like it is both from the side and an almost isometric view where it goes diagonally. The grass looks like it is viewed top down, I would add in a horizon if it is supposed to be a scene. The stones definitely help keep the perspective in place though.
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Quote crozier Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2013 at 4:01pm
Thanks for the tip. Sometimes you just need a second pair of eyes, you know?

perhaps a bit better. Gotta fix that grass where the fence used to be. Stupidly I was working on only 1 layer ;l

EDIT: just saved the file as a .png instead of .gal. Come on croz, you blew it!

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Quote AirStyle Replybullet Posted: 08 January 2013 at 6:24pm
Crozier, you might want to take a serious study on perspective. It still looks off, mainly because you have no vanishing point and your grass goes on forever without receding to one. It's not that your gate was bad, but your tree and grass were ruining the viewer's sense of depth.

Lookie here.


This was done pretty quickly, but pay attention to how everything relates to each other in terms of depth. It has an eye-level (yellow "horizon"tal line), the fences moves to the distance appropriately, and the tree is positioned in relation to the rest. Also, even though I didn't show it well here, show depth with your grass blades by making them more detailed in front and less in the back, or closer to the vanishing point.
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Quote crozier Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2013 at 5:25pm
K, I'll try to fix the grass later. Thanks for the comment.
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Quote AtskaHeart Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2013 at 8:47pm
Regarding the purple colors, in case you want to use them in your piece, you could apply them in darker areas. It looks very good usually :).
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Quote crozier Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2013 at 12:41pm
Alright, getting better. Removed those randomly placed gravemarkers for something a little better (sadder)
Dunno if I prefer grass with highlights or without. Will crop out the stuff at the top.
Might move the fence down even further.

Looking better I suppose.
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Quote Mr.Fahrenheit Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2013 at 1:51pm
Put a horizon in your image and it will make it much, much better.
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Quote crozier Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2013 at 4:33pm
Thanks one again Mr.Fahrenheit!


Still major wip. Clouds and cloudless. Not sure which one to continue with.

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Quote Mr.Fahrenheit Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2013 at 5:59pm
You should really try to distinguish between the foreground/ midground and the background, above the horizon. Generally you should decrease the saturation and tint it the color of the sky because you are simulating the reflection of light off particles in the air. One thing that could help to reinforce the perspective is having elements that adhere strictly to the perspective, so some man made constructions that are parallel to eachother and receded into the distance. On another forum I go on someone else had some problems similar to yours, and I will copy paste my C+C from there.

The persons Image:
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My response:
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Pretty much what I did was I added some perspective to your piece to get a sense of depth. I added a pair of fences to make it seem like a sectioned off firing line. The fences receded into the distance, now the perspective on the fences aren't perfect but I just did it to show you what I mean. After that I messed with the colors some, I removed unnecessary colors on the gun and removed its outline. I upped the contrast of the colors, I added a tint of color to the grays and for the rest of the colors I removed some of the saturation, you rarely want to use 100% saturation. I gave the scope a zooming functionality by making it skinnier at the bottom and wider in the scope. I flattened out the grass to make it seem like a flat plain which is more realistic. From where I got it one could easily take it to the next level and still know what it is. I added some shoddy aa (anti aliasing) to the fence to make it a little smoother and I gave the cardboard some texture. Somebody could easily add texture and highlights to the metal of the gun, they could add texture to the grass and add a (better) background and clouds of some sort if they wish, but the key idea is still there and can be seen. People say that if you look at your drawing and you squint your eyes and can easily make out what is happening you have a good composition and depth.

Make sure not to over aa if you do, that seems to be what I did."

So some of that may apply to you, pick out what you can if you can stand to read that unorganized mess :/ . Good Luck! You can also look up some things on perspective online to learn how you should angle your fence, once you learn how to do it its really easy.

Edited by Mr.Fahrenheit - 23 February 2013 at 6:03pm
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Quote crozier Replybullet Posted: 23 February 2013 at 9:52pm
Very messy, but I think I have the angle right. Thanks!

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