Hi, my sprite animations were rejected from pixeljoint gallery because im not using frame by frame drawing and basically my whole process is against some rules made up 20 years ago when 16 colours was limitation but now i dont know whats the use for such rules especially on forums where sprites are made for fun and not for paid game project with strict 16 colours per sprite rules because snes cant handle more... are the rules to use or not use this and that created to offend people like me and say "your time spend on animation is sh*tworhy anyways cause you used bicubic resize"? I dont think so, i know that you should not use resizing that create blur on sprites cause it looks bad.
 Im trying to be calm here but i do feel offended because i spent a lot of hours creating my animations and trying to make them look like sprites and there comes this guy who makes 16 colour pixel art for c64 and tells me i broke the rules i should be punished.
 Im sure no blurry resizing rule was made so animations dont look blurry and sh*tty but look again do my anims look blurry and sh*tty ?

http://bwwd.deviantart.com/gallery


 So now i cant share my sprite animations made with my own method possible only because software for making it exists only from a couple of years and people have no clue about it so rules to accept it dont even exist ?
 I like sprites and i dont really have skills to draw decent pixel art (pixel art is not sprite) i dont use patterns and my shading is very simple trying to mimic sprites.
 I dont have a problem telling people that i dont draw my sprites frame by frame but i do have a problem with 20 years old rules that offend people who spent hours on their animations and are rejected because it doesnt look sh*tty enough with 16 colour palette and 5 frames for walkcycle.
  What's the difference to anyone whats the process used for sprites especially if i dont submit to contests where colour amount is strict just for fun and challenge ?
 Outcome is what matters - not process, its not like animations are making themselves move and i dont have to do anything, im still learning but its sad that on one of the biggest sprite making forums im treated like that because i dont use the same tools even if my sprites do look like sprites and look fine ingame.
 Yes im a bit pissed, or maybe im on wrong forum and people dont like sprites here? If so please recommend me some sprite making forums.

Rule number 6 is :
  Any art you post should be PIXEL ART! Pixel art implies that each pixel is placed by hand (no filters, paintbrushes, gradient fills, etc).

But pixel art and sprites are not the same thing !

Edited by 2blackbar - 19 September 2013 at 1:31pm

Engine im using supports 256 colour sprites so im not worried about that, so im not gonna degrade my work just to fit within 20 years old rules made valid in 2013 for no reason, it is not pixel art and never meant to be, these are sprites, pixel art is something different.

Edited by 2blackbar - 19 September 2013 at 3:04pm

1.) There is no set restriction on how many colors you can use in a given piece of pixel art (unless you're working on a piece for a weekly challenge). Pixel artists try to keep low color counts as both an exercise in minimalism and an attempt to emulate/pay homage to the pixel art of old.

2.) Pixel artists work on the individual pixel level. From what I understand of your post, you didn't make your animations by working with the sprites on an individual pixel level. While your images have admittedly impressive animation, they don't appear fit Pixeljoint's guidelines for what constitutes pixel art.

3.) Pixel art and sprites aren't the same thing, but you came to Pixeljoint, not Spritejoint, and Pixeljoint only accepts pixel art under a strict set of guidelines (which your sprites don't meet).

WOW nostalgia statements, I grew with them too and my first cpu was atari xl in 1989, i cheated my mom that i got good grades to play games on it so please dont,  i dont get why people are so obsessed with using different method and call it cheating or whatever like if cpu did all the job.
 I guess if my sprites dont fit within 20 years old rules then i just get finger from whoever made stupid rules valid in 2013, thanks.
 Whatever ill write its useless cause looks like its like forum full of bots where one person made 20 year old rule and nothing can change it now.
 
 Look, im not skilled pixel artist but i learned how to make sprites so instead of giving me a finger and gtfout from gallery how about letting me share them so people could learn new techniqe to make them like i did, without it i wouldnt be able to make any animations and its a chance for people to create good looking animations for their games, all they need is one handdrawn picture of character bodyparts.Am i talking with real people or bots im not sure if im wasting my time.
 Is this about some competition all the time or something who did what with how many colours and dithering style, i was just looking for place to share sprites and if people asked i explained they arent pixel art.
Pixel art:



Sprite:


 In capcom they created outlines on paper first is it cheating too im not sure but it should be all pixel art by standards.

2blackbar, stop being stubborn. You can make the nicest painting, photograph, movie, sculpture, or book, it still won't get "accepted" in PJ, because it's not the subject of this website. (even the forum part has no "other art forms" categories, while Pixelation has a random creative thread and a "Low-spec art" board)

It's nothing against you in particular, many people before you have already misunderstood the limits of the gallery.

> In capcom they created outlines on paper first is it cheating too
What's important is that in this Little Red Riding Hood, somebody spent the time to manually fix each line, surface and pixel (look at any individual frame, and for example the texture of the basket). Pixel art. Would belong in the gallery, no problem.

You really need to calm down. Hostility isn't going to make things any better. 

2blackbar, I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how PJ handles sprites that has led to confusion.

PJ accepts sprites made with pixel art techniques. While artists can draw out the sprite (and however many frames of animation they wish) beforehand and (as DarkfalzX must've done) use specialized tools to handle complex animations, they must still work with the sprite on an individual pixel level.

Sprites not made with pixel art techniques (which still count as sprites no matter what you might think anyone here has said to the contrary) don't belong on Pixeljoint. Your sprites look great, but you don't seem to have made them with traditional pixel art techniques, so they don't fit in with the Pixeljoint guidelines.

Yeah but im also interested with other people's sprites and pixel art, but i cant even have my own gallery here. 

When this issue arises. I like to say that the MOMA would reject DaVinci's MonaLisa for no other reason than its not Modern. The same applies to these hybrid pieces.

Edited by jalonso - 20 September 2013 at 8:00pm