Friend: Thanks for your support, I appreciate very much your kind comment. ;)
It's ok, I feel like I cannot pixel the wings in a while. My goal was to learn some isometry, this was my first exercise, and it was also quite difficult, a lot of time spent, but initially was invested to learn and do something more challenging, so I'm kind of self paid.

Snv: good luck with the griffin and with your project! I'll keep an eye on it. Just, if the artist agrees, a lot of people we're thrilled about the griffin sprite, and we would love to see the final piece.



Edited by dyluck - 03 April 2015 at 11:51am

OT:
Just checking to be sure because the gallery is for pixelart made by the account holder and because of this thread I'm unsure if someone in your project made it or you made it and only used DBs palette.



Edited by jalonso - 05 April 2015 at 6:35pm

Just wanted to chime in to say that I am delighted that I make all my pixel work (admittedly not great but okay for a developer) for myself. This thread is frankly horrifying for a person who was thinking of collaborating with others through pixeljoint. There's a whole lack of respect that is just chilling. What is more there seems to be a boatload of unwarranted criticsm coming from some parties. I assumed that it was because they were super-pro at this but having checked their galleries here they seem to be complete newbies. What gives?

I use some of my leissure time to learn pixelart, I can't provide very technical/warranted criticism, but you don't have to paint as Rembrandt to have the right to make comments on its art.
My gallery is quite humble, so, does it mean I'm not qualified to give my opinion?
If what you say in that critique has sense, it may be useful, even if your skills and talent is not remarkable. If not, it probably will be ignored. Or at least it should.

The art was posted to be criticised, the thing is that the person who posted it did it not knowing it the author, and some jokes were made about some of these elements; I think I made one on the anatomy of the tail of the lizard, but because I thought it was funny. Never meant to disrespect the author. If the author felt bad about it, I'm really so sorry. I apologize now for having done that comment, and I'll try to be more careful about it. I Truly mean it. I just excpect tahta maybe learning from that error may compensate somehow the author...

The author selled it to a person that wanted help to criticise it. Critics dind't knew the details (time the author had, budget, expecifications...)  and just used some of their time to help, I seriously doubt anyone make their comments just to make fun on anyone.
Some flaws were objectively exposed by some different people, due all respect, and that was the whole point. I think artists may expect people to  make comments on their art.

ps: Not beeing direcly feeling alluded, but I have to say... wouldn't that obscure criticism you made for those parties, be somehow unwarranted and unasked? It's not directly referenced and it lacks feedback... I'm sorry, but that makes your apreciation pointless compared to the criticism provided by those parties.



Edited by dyluck - 25 April 2015 at 6:13am

Collab is when you do profit share, so artist has underlying desire to do good work, otherwise the product won' sell. In such cases artist usually takes complete direction over the art side of the project, while programmer does just code. Because when artist is your friend, you can't demand anything from him. But in my case I pay and expect good result.


As I said, I'm not an artist myself. Just dislike when people try to fool me.


I'm happy with reputation of demanding manager, who does not accept rubbish. So I'm hoping to hire artist, not someone whom I'll have to explain the anatomy myself. If you can't do anatomy or draw cube made of arbitrary material at arbitrary angle, then you ain't an artist in my opinion.

Speaking from my experience, for every single artist, there are 10 wannabes, who can't do the job.

That being said, the Lizard finally got finished, although I had to got rid of another crook and find a real artist to finish him and the goat demon, which also required change of 3 "artists" - one especially "smart" and "creative" person done a crude macromedia-style animation (unacceptable of course) and had no desire to do it properly.

The artist working on Griffin still has troubles reversing it. I've no idea why, because he makes obvious flaws:


Edited by snv - 15 May 2015 at 9:24pm