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clefairykid
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Topic: A little help understanding this
Posted: 29 April 2015 at 8:34pm

Hey everyone c:
I was reading this really interesting tutorial and really wanted to try it, but I'm not very advanced (in pixel art, but well experienced with photoshop as a general thing) and was a bit confused as to how to actually do it XD

http://danfessler.com/blog/hd-index-painting-in-photoshop

I can see the layer set up and understand it in a vague way but, I think I need it in more of a step 1, do this, step 2, do this, sort of format, this one seems like it's about to be that way but then shows you finished pieces and it's the end all of a sudden XD

it's probably very simple and i'm just not getting the lightbulb moment for some reason xD

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yrizoud
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Posted: 30 April 2015 at 12:01am

Indigo had a rather long thread on Pixelation about this method, at the time he posted the tutorial :
http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=16531.msg149962

Edited by yrizoud - 30 April 2015 at 12:02am

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clefairykid
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Posted: 01 May 2015 at 7:10am

thanks for the link but it seems like random conversation there where everyone already seems to just understand it by looking at it
feeling pretty stupid because im obviously just derping out and no understanding for some reason XD

what's it mean by posterise? I know it's a type of filter, but wouldn't that mean you need to go in and reapply that filter to every little thing every time you drew something? and how on earth does an effect like that help make a pixel art look?

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clefairykid
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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 5:13pm

hello? anyone at all able to give me a simple approach as to what to actually click to achieve this?

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eishiya
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Posted: 08 May 2015 at 9:27am

The original blog post gives detailed instructions on achieving this, that's why you're not getting replies - all the information you need is in that post!

If I'm understanding your posts correctly, it looks like you're mistaking this technique for a workflow, when it's actually a layer set-up. You create the layer stack(s), and whatever you draw beneath them gets reduced to the patterns and colours defined in the layer stack. You set the layers up, and then you just paint below them as you would for a non-pixel-art painting.

Notice that in the instructions, almost every effect is listed as "(effect) Adjustment Layer". Adjustment Layers are a special type of layer that automatically apply effects to whatever's beneath them, so you don't have to apply it by hand. You can create Adjustment Layers in Layer -> New Adjustment Layer -> (whatever effect you need).

Edited by eishiya - 08 May 2015 at 9:27am

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clefairykid
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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 2:23am

that's actually all I needed, was someone to say simply "paint under the adjustment layers" - since in my mind I usually consider adjustment layers as things that happen after the bit that goes under them, not before. I'm aware of what they are and how they work, like I said I've used photoshop for well over 5 years, I was simply confused about what approach was being taken here and needed a simple clarification, nothing difficult XD thank you

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clefairykid Midshipman Joined: 24 May 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 40	Topic: A little help understanding this Posted: 29 April 2015 at 8:34pm
	Hey everyone c: I was reading this really interesting tutorial and really wanted to try it, but I'm not very advanced (in pixel art, but well experienced with photoshop as a general thing) and was a bit confused as to how to actually do it XD http://danfessler.com/blog/hd-index-painting-in-photoshop I can see the layer set up and understand it in a vague way but, I think I need it in more of a step 1, do this, step 2, do this, sort of format, this one seems like it's about to be that way but then shows you finished pieces and it's the end all of a sudden XD it's probably very simple and i'm just not getting the lightbulb moment for some reason xD
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yrizoud Commander Joined: 03 May 2021 Location: France Online Status: Offline Posts: 343	Posted: 30 April 2015 at 12:01am
	Indigo had a rather long thread on Pixelation about this method, at the time he posted the tutorial : http://wayofthepixel.net/index.php?topic=16531.msg149962 Edited by yrizoud - 30 April 2015 at 12:02am
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clefairykid Midshipman Joined: 24 May 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 40	Posted: 01 May 2015 at 7:10am
	thanks for the link but it seems like random conversation there where everyone already seems to just understand it by looking at it feeling pretty stupid because im obviously just derping out and no understanding for some reason XD what's it mean by posterise? I know it's a type of filter, but wouldn't that mean you need to go in and reapply that filter to every little thing every time you drew something? and how on earth does an effect like that help make a pixel art look?
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clefairykid Midshipman Joined: 24 May 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 40	Posted: 06 May 2015 at 5:13pm
	hello? anyone at all able to give me a simple approach as to what to actually click to achieve this?
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eishiya Commander Joined: 04 August 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1109	Posted: 08 May 2015 at 9:27am
	The original blog post gives detailed instructions on achieving this, that's why you're not getting replies - all the information you need is in that post! If I'm understanding your posts correctly, it looks like you're mistaking this technique for a workflow, when it's actually a layer set-up. You create the layer stack(s), and whatever you draw beneath them gets reduced to the patterns and colours defined in the layer stack. You set the layers up, and then you just paint below them as you would for a non-pixel-art painting. Notice that in the instructions, almost every effect is listed as "(effect) Adjustment Layer". Adjustment Layers are a special type of layer that automatically apply effects to whatever's beneath them, so you don't have to apply it by hand. You can create Adjustment Layers in Layer -> New Adjustment Layer -> (whatever effect you need). Edited by eishiya - 08 May 2015 at 9:27am
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clefairykid Midshipman Joined: 24 May 2015 Online Status: Offline Posts: 40	Posted: 12 May 2015 at 2:23am
	that's actually all I needed, was someone to say simply "paint under the adjustment layers" - since in my mind I usually consider adjustment layers as things that happen after the bit that goes under them, not before. I'm aware of what they are and how they work, like I said I've used photoshop for well over 5 years, I was simply confused about what approach was being taken here and needed a simple clarification, nothing difficult XD thank you
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