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MadMage
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 September 2021 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 112 |
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The other day I read a comment complaining about how "the same artists -few exceptions- always get the most visibility, as their works are always on top, due to points, critiques, favs..."
It seemed pretty obvious to me and I didn't really care. However, I have been a member here for quite a long time and... The gallery of "Best rated pixels had no change on its front page! I know there is a Random pixel section on the left side but... Really... I never look at that. My proposal is to create another line at the front page with the RANDOM PIXELS display. Amazing ones, horrible ones... I think that would be great for giving more visibility to other artists and encourage newcomers, as they can be sure their pieces will eventually pop up om the homepage! |
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eishiya
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Yet another line would add even more clutter to an already over-cluttered main page. In addition, most of the featured works would be by artists who don't care about having their work seen, because they're already gone from the site.
The newest row already provides a nice varied selection of stuff, and that's really where artists want the focus to be. It's not random, but it's a good mix of popular and unpopular artists. If you want to see truly random stuff including abandoned stuff, then you have only yourself to blame for not looking at the Random Pixels bit. As for the same artists always being on top, I feel like that problem could be partially remedied by the weekly showcase not being a weekly showcase, but a daily one. |
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jalonso
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Every page has a 'random art' panel on the right and all other pages have it at the very bottom. That's enough, no?
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MadMage
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 September 2021 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 112 |
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I "blamed myself", and came to the following conclusions:
1: "Yet another line would add even more clutter to an already over-cluttered main page." - I would't mind it, however... 2: In addition, most of the featured works would be by artists who don't care about having their work seen, because they're already gone from the site." ...I didn't thought about that! You are totally right. ' 3: eishiya's last two statements and jalonso's: I "blamed myself" and took a look on the random pixels on the left and at the bottom. Couldn't find anything at the bottom. Random pixels were all recent pixels. That was not my idea. What bothers me is: are older works to be cast into oblivion? Maybe there could be an alternative solution to that: The "random pixel" line would not exist on the main page. Instead, every time you opened an artists submission (meaning he is either active or very worth your time) there would be a line showing "MORE FROM THIS ARTIST", showing random pixels from his gallery regardless of how long he submitted them. If there is an easy-to-see list of random older submissions, please, forget about this post. I just haven't seen it! |
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eishiya
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"More from this artist" = their gallery :] dA has such a feature and it always seemed like an annoying, distracting waste of space.
The random feature is meant to have a balance of old and new, skewing towards the new, for the reason I mentioned - views on more recent work are more likely to matter to the artists and to the community (for ratings, etc). Old works are not quite cast into the oblivion since they do still show up and they are present on the site, but they are heavily de-emphasised for already-mentioned reasons. However, I would like to see a less-biased "random" option, perhaps as a "Go to a random pixel" link rather than a gallery view, or perhaps the current random thing could be changed to show one piece from the past however-long, and one chosen from all of PJ's history. To be honest I thought that was how it worked, I am disappointed to hear that it's not. |
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MadMage
Commander ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 September 2021 Location: Brazil Online Status: Offline Posts: 112 |
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Just an idea... I thought about it because I almost never click on Gallery to see older/other stuff - and adding this line would greatly improve the visibility for the artist (IMHO). And that would and should only apply to active members, as you said before. No point to show abandoned things. =)
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MadMage
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I analysed the site again. And remembered this post I did long ago. Now, I have worked with advertising (specially on the internet) and I know that unless an information is clearly available, no one will pay attention to it.
I am convinced that more visibility would encourage new artists - many of which are quite talented but are bound to lose interest over time. I don't know how hard it would be to do it, but my proposal is to create a new section "Selected works" where people could select some of their works to be randomly displayed there. Since people would have to "SELECT" them, works from idle artists would not appear. This selection would only last for a month. To avoid a work spam and encourage production and participation, members would only be able to select 1 piece at Level One and 2 more pieces for each level they reached. 5 bonus pieces at Level 10. This new section, if well received by the users, could replace the "Highest Rated" or "Most favourites" that are so similar and have remained almost unchanged over time. Or simply added to the "gallery" page... |
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Hapiel
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it would be very, very hard to implement that feature.
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