20 colors.....

Not a bad start, you might consider not using linear lighting.

You shade eveything in a linear fashion. Your midtones are the same hue as your base colors. Try shifting hues slightly between the base and light color.

Edited by Pixel_Outlaw - 08 October 2006 at 6:49pm

I'd really suggest trying out some tutorials on spriteart before you try to make forms yourself. It really helps.

Stop making excuses.
It's what you always do.

Basic Techniques
Shading Tutorials

hinthint.  I'd comment, but it'd only be an echo. Hue shift, and use colors better in general.  Don't just use the ramps on one certain aspect, use the colors throughout the piece.  And use a stronger and more consistent lightsource.

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That's complete bullsh*t.

I did the tiny sprite tutorial the first time and I didn't even READ it and managed to do something pretty good. Even if you look at the pictures and don't read what the tuts say, it can give you ideas.

You need to make some time and have some patience for art. If you don't have at least a bit of time and a good amount of patience, art isn't really for you. Artists don't just pull good pixels out of their ass, they practise again and again. If you're not willing to devote time to your art and keep practising and using tutorials and help people give you, then art really isn't the field for you.
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"That's complete bullsh*t. "

facinating!yuor a great insperation! ever tried making people feel good about themselves? this is why i want to leave.

"I did the tiny sprite tutorial the first time and I didn't even READ it and managed to do something pretty good. Even if you look at the pictures and don't read what the tuts say, it can give you ideas."

what tiny sprite tutorial? ive dont up to the ambient lighting on sphere and then it treats you like a proffessional artist. if you ask me that person isnt very good at tutorials-at least not for beginners-and when ever i ask for easy tutorials people send me to there. i will try one more time but then i give up.




Edited by Flameruler13 - 10 October 2006 at 5:03pm

Well, I'm sorry. I stopped babysitting when I quit being a doller. I'm not here to kiss your ass. If you want sympathy, maybe you should try actually DOING a tutorial first, before you bitch a moan about how much you suck. Everyone here has gotten where they are because they have practised and stuck through it through thick and thin. WHY have they done that? Because they love doing what they do. THAT's their inspiration, their motiviation.

Artists don't rely on other people for their motivation to be artists. If you need me to coddle you into pixelling, maybe you should stop bitching, reconsider whether or not art is for you, and make a life choice, mmkay?



Okay... I'm going to type VEEEEEEEEEeerrry slowly. I'll make a little site browsing tutorial just for you because you're so very special. You can do it!

--> Go to Sprite Art dot com
--> Click on the big dragon in the middle of the page
--> Look on the naviagation and click the little sprite head that says "TUTORIALS"
--> Since you can't obviously read the description st0ven gives on the side of the page, let me explain it for you. Each of the little portraits you see is a section of tutorials. For the tutorial you're looking for, since you can't spare 5 minutes to check under each head, click on the first guy with the blue hair in the second row.
--> See the little sprite characters, the first tutorial on the side, that says RPG characters? That's where you click.
--> Ta da! RPG characters!

Each of the tutorials is under a category of difficulty, if you're just starting out, you can easily go through each of the samuari's list of tuts and find the ones that are for beginner pixellers under Basic Pixel Techniques. st0ven site is slightly confusing but not THAT confusing, if you actually WANT to find something to try. Before you go into the more difficult ones like Ambient lighting, you're going to have to practice the easiest ones first.

People here get frustrated because you expect pixel art skills to come to you easy with minimal practise. It's not going to happen, alright? Great artists are not born, they grow over time. They LEARN their skills, they HONE their skills. It's not a one two three process.

We react sarcastically and angrily to you because no matter how hard we try to make you understand, all you seem to do is give excuses and expect us to magically pull our skills out of our asses and shove them in your head. People in this community are willing to help, but we're not going to baby you. If you continue to give excuses, you're just going to get frustration in return.

So you need to make a descision, are you willing to continue trying and trying, despite how bad or good you may be, to improve your skills? Or are you going to bitch and moan every time you get an off tone, a crooked line, or a f**ked up shading method?

It's pillow shaded.
That's what's wrong with it.
Seems you think light appears in the middle of everything.

Because basic lighting isn't unique to spriting or pixel art; it's a part of basic art. SpriteArt will not teach you this. I would just looking up tutorials on lighting yourself, but here's a good start: http://www.itchy-animation.co.uk/light.htm


Edited by orbofwisdom - 10 October 2006 at 6:33pm

Please, please reconsider your usage of this forum. There are certainly many respectable artists here who try hard to grasp the concepts presented to them in the resources so handily well written.

You say those resources are hard for a beginner to follow? Well, if they are, then check out other tuts or something, don't come bitching to everybody about how *insert name here* is inept in teaching *this subject*. Also, take note of the community, largely one who has learned to pixel through these tuts with NO TROUBLE at all.

"the best sprite website" isn't completely true of st0ven's spriteart, by the way. There are MANY styles of pixel art, and in general, art is judged often based on personal taste. What st0ven provides is a helpful resource. Whether you use it or not is up to you.

That said, I want to emphasize that it IS a very good resource:

All of the techniques present in this edit can be found perusing through his site. Now, you can't immediately grasp everything going on here.
Learn it little by little, degree by degree, and stop complaining.

Thanks P_O. I was reading as I fumed more and more. Was ready to post then read your post and now I'm ROFLMAO.

I thought that pillow shading was when you take the darkest color, then made a border around the outside, then kept doing that until you get to the center. im sorry but that is not what i have done.

if you look closer at mine you will notice that its not pillow shaded, its darker near the bottom of the spikes.

also these are prites, which dont have a true lightsource because they move around and unless the lightsourcce is attached to their body, it would move. so instead of making a different sprite for each couple inches, you have to make one that has an all-around light source.

Edited by Pixel_Outlaw - 11 October 2006 at 2:04pm

1 - sorry i speak japenese
2 - im a girl
6 - oh, i thought this site was a cooking tutorial site

your not much help
~flame

if your not going to help me you can just leave



and for all of the normal people that wan to help:i'll work on an actual pixel art line art-i'll post it soon, then i can really start



Edited by Flameruler13 - 11 October 2006 at 2:27pm

Yeah i agree with everything you've said. Your a Genius. I love you.

Yo flameruler. i suggest you learn how to define shapes with colours instead of relying on lines to do the work. check out your face in the mirror and really focus on how the light is hitting the different planes of the face. if you don't have a mirror then the pj gallery is full of images that you can use to see how light works. if you want to avoid the haters in the forum feel free to pm me and i'll give you some c&c on whatever piece you're working on.
you're just lucky i'm an emotionless robot who cannot love or hate.

a few negative neds shouldn't stop you from listening to the other crits in this thread. there have been many valid points stated, I suggest you attempt to use a bit of it. as for the ones trying to put you down, just ignore them if you really feel it's disrupting your art-making.

we're here to help not pick fights or anything so let's all be friends! :D

GWAAAH.

Edited by Saboteur - 11 October 2006 at 6:18pm

Grow Up.

I say lock the damn thing. Actually from the way things go flamemagnet13 will just make more.

You already know my vote.

I thought my speech was pretty inspiring :(

flame, you are retarded, we gave you several chances and i already warned you.  so bye bye