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    Posted: 01 June 2007 at 11:03am
heres our conversation
 

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

Hey

tom says:

hello

tom says:

finally working

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

tom says:

so what did you want to talk to me about?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

I need you on msn, so we can talk. I have all staff onmsn

Anyway, what has Harry told you to do?

tom says:

well no-one has told me anything yet

tom says:

why?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

Ok

I need to have a word with Harry

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

when was the last time he spoke to you, and what did he say?

tom says:

is harry zeko?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

yes

tom says:

he said you were getting up your funds before you asked us for anything

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

I have £50 transferring from my bank to paypal. That takes 9 days, however I need to know how much you charge, and are you ok with making stuff, then waiting for pay

tom says:

I'm ok with that but would it be ok for check by mail? I live in th UK as well

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

No, I don't have a check book. Paypal is how I pay.

tom says:

wait there a second please

tom says:

I'm back, also I don't have paypal, zeko said on PJ (pixeljoint) that the oayment would either be paypal or check by mail, I guess theres no check by mail?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

I don't know why he said that.

I am going to have to speak to him about this

tom says:

ok, I'm too young to have paypal unfortunaly

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

I am underage too, but I still have it. Most people do

tom says:

my mom won't let me get it though thats the problem

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

L6Right...

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

tom says:

I'm 13 I'll have too ask my dad

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

I am 13 too buddy

I have had paypal for over 1 year

tom says:

oh well I'll go ask my dad thats what my mom just said to do, wait a miniute

tom says:

I just remembered he's at work

tom says:

lol

tom says:

but when he gets back I'll ask him

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

k

tom says:

I'll be happy to still do the work in the meantime

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

ok great

tom says:

so what do you have in mind

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

Umm what can you do?

tom says:

well I can do pretty much everything just I can do some things better than others

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

ok could you try and make some art for our new upcoming radio station

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

like logos, icons etc

tom says:

yeah ok, what icons do you want?

tom says:

also can you say a rough size for each

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

umm maybe a mic, a logo saying Radio or something... maybe a nice pixel timetable layout etc?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

icons need to be like the size of a habbo badge

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

logo needs to be no bigger than the suerte logo

tom says:

I've never been on habbo hotel

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

and pixel timetable needs to have the days Mon-Sun and have from 0.00 MIDNIGHT to 11.00PM

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

that ok?

tom says:

yeah sure any particular color scheme?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

same as website

www.suerteheights.com

and maybe add a bit of www.suerteheights.com/board into it

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

how long is that going to take?

tom says:

well the icons I'de say about a few miniutes (are they like play, stop and all those things?) the whole layout about another few minuites the logo should also take only about a few miniutes

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

could you design us a radio station website layout aswell?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

anyway, afk

tom says:

I could try the layout out thing, might not be able to though (also what does afk mean)

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

away from jkeyboard

tom says:

ok, lol I'll start working on it now, I'll keep up my MSN incase you want anything else added

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

Hows it going

tom says:

well I have an idea and I'm satarting the logo do you like the idea of the word radio but the i is a microphone?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

Nice!

tom says:

thanks I have just finished the R it's quite big and now I'm doing the a

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

tom says:

would you like nice simple letters or really detailed or a mixture

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

whatever you think looks best

tom says:

I'll try mixture

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

ok

tom says:

just finished the A

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

can i see so far?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

?

tom says:

I'm uploading now

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

k

tom says:

imageshack is really slow

tom says:

still uploading

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

k

tom says:

I have just done a bit on the D whilst waiting

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

k

tom says:

nearly uploaded

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

k

tom says:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/105/logoscreenshotgo8.png

tom says:

I'm gonna have breakfast soon

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

k

your not GMT time then?

Also its a a bit large

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

anyway, show me again when it is done

tom says:

no I am I'm just having breakfast late, I live in the west midlands in england, also is that too big? beacause I used your logo I copy and pasted it to get the right size, anyway breakfast now

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

O, the size is ok then

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

also its mid afternoon, should be having lunch xD

tom says:

yeah it was more of a lunchy breakfast

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

xD

tom says:

it was brunch, I had a ham sandwhich and a cup of tea

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

tom says:

more lunchy than breakfasty

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

514Are you mad?!?

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

xD

tom says:

also I am allowed the paypal account

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

WOW great

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

+45Wooooow!

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

Anyway, show me the logo when it is finished

tom says:

I'm making it now ( the paypal account)

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

94Oh my God!

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

great

once the logo is complete, send it on over

Suerte Heights - Top Form says:

!10Be right back

tom says:

will do

tom says:

just done the D

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

tom says:

would £20 be ok with you?

tom says:

for the the logo and all of the the actual radio for the layout if I get that done £5?

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

£20 for the radio website layout, and all the icons, and logos etc?

tom says:

yes but £5 for the layout of the web page

tom says:

haggle if you want

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

£25 is alot....

as this anit going to take you very long... £25 - I can get a full made website for that

tom says:

ok how about £15?

tom says:

£5 still for the actual website that is

tom says:

*website layout that

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

so you want

£15 for a couple of icons, a logo and a website layout?

tom says:

is that ok (this is my first paid job)

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

that is kind of steep

£10 sounds reasonable. Also you say this is your first PAID job, so you used to work for free?

tom says:

yes

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

you could work for free at suerte xD

you still get the usergroup, the staff access, perissions etc

tom says:

no I'm ok, £10 it is

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

;(

tom says:

lol

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

if you worked free before, surely you can work free again xD?

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

*7Come on!

tom says:

hmm to be paid, or not to be paid, I think I'll choose paid

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

k

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

£10 it is

tom says:

ok

tom says:

just out of curiosity whats enselletis doing?

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

No idea, have not spoke to him. I think Harry has spoke to him

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

[Messenger Plus! Sound] - Data{D7F043FDC20E} - English 

tom says:

oh mkay

Suerte Video Chat - Online for the next 15 mins - Talk to me says:

tom says:

finished the microphone

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

lets see

tom says:

all of this that I've done is the line art though

tom says:

also I hope you don't mind but the next previews will have the word preview writen on it (my dad said just to be a bit careful) no offence

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

;l

You are contracted to Suerte. We are not going to steal the work. If we did, you could ruin us in a second.

Buddy, if we are going to work together we work as a team

tom says:

oh ok, well I guess I wont then (and by contracted do you mean I am working for you whenever you need me or just for this layout?)

tom says:

anyways here it is so far

tom says:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/9660/logoscreenshotoc1.png

tom says:

hope you like the mic

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

Did you sign a contract with Harry?

tom says:

no

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

o right.

Anyway, i like the radio, but have you enlarged that ,as its really big (the word radio)

tom says:

no I havent enlarged it I'm zoomed in

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

thats what I ment xD

tom says:

yeah I'm using a program called graphics gale it can zoom in to 4000%

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

k

tom says:

nearly done with the O

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

tom says:

in fact I only have to add a few more pixels then all the lineart for the logo is done

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

tom says:

uploading the screenshot now

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

k

tom says:

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/2742/logoscreenshotqz6.png

tom says:

brb

tom says:

i'm back

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

Ok... I

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

[Messenger Plus! Sound] - Data{D7F043FDC20E} - English 

tom says:

I havent registered MSN so I didnt here that

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

you need Messanger plus to hear it

tom says:

oh I havent got that

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

ok carry on with the graphics

tom says:

what color for the letters do you want?

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

mutlicolour ?

tom says:

how about red and blue they go together

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

yeah , and they are suerte colours

tom says:

XD

tom says:

what color for the mic do you want

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

black handle, colourful buttons and then maybe like a greyish but looks like foam top

tom says:

ok

tom says:

just finished coloring and shading R

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

tom says:

I'll give you another screenshot if you want

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

yesh please

tom says:

imageshack is going wrong I'll find another image hosting site (I know loads)

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

tom says:

nearly done uploading and I'm also nearly done with the A

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

k

tom says:

that one didnt work either so I just tried imageshack again plus I have done the A http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7590/logoscreenshotdo3.png

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

sorry but thats a bit tatty. Its nothing like your other art

tom says:

it ok your paying for it, I think you deserve to be a bit picky

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

we are aiming for standards like www.bittybay.co.uk

www.sokucity.com

we want to be up to thatstandard

tom says:

I think I've improved it

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

show

tom says:

one more thing first

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

k

tom says:

done now it's uploading

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

tom says:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1171/logoscreenshotfv5.png

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

its not really the pixel style we are looking for

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

www.bittybay.co.uk

look at the launch button. That is the sort of thing we are looking for

tom says:

should I just redo the shading then?

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

ye

tom says:

okay

tom says:

like this:

tom says:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9731/logoscreenshotdt6.png

tom says:

?

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

it stil has a bit of tackyness to it

tom says:

yeah thats that style on a big peice for ya

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

could you maybe make it smaller

tom says:

yeah sure might take abit though

Suerte Heights - Radio Anyone? says:

k

tom says:

I have made the letters smaller (do you want the mic detailed or shaded like I have done the letters?

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

needs to be detailed too

tom says:

the mic detailed or the letters

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

all

tom says:

but you said for it to be like bitty bay

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

yes... that is detailed.

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

we want that kind of style

tom says:

for the mic as well by detail I meant the shading ttype I was doing before

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

No. it needs to be the same style throughout

tom says:

ok I just thought it might look better but your the boss

tom says:

well... you know what I mean

tom says:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2722/radiologohu7.gif

tom says:

that is the finished peice

You have just sent a nudge.

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

hang on

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

sorry its really not what we are looking for

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

please try and do the icons

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

tom says:

ok so I guess you want play, pause, rewind, and fast forward? 32 x 32?

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

and a little mic icon, and like a radi icon

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

*radio

tom says:

I just wanna ask but how do I know your not gonna use the logo because I have been sending you all the WIPS and you were saying it's ok ect, but then out of the blue you say it's not what were looking for? plus I did everything you asked, so it was too your liking, I'm not so sure you arent going to use it

Suerte Heights - GRR says:

I am not going to use that.

It does not suit the style

tom says:

well everything else that I make is going to have preview on it

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

k

tom says:

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7514/playbuttonscreenshotsl6.png

tom says:

thats the play button

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

tom says:

so is that okay also what color for the buttons do you want

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

your the designer

maybe a nice orange, red ?

tom says:

okay

tom says:

also how much will I be getting now that I'm not doing the logo

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

maybe the same price

tom says:

ok

tom says:

also do like this style:

tom says:

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6883/playbuttonscreenshotak4.png

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

nop

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

i need art like in ou dp

tom says:

what?

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

yuour dp

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

quality art

tom says:

that is what most artists I know would give

tom says:

you

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

you didnt make it

tom says:

i did make it but that is the same quality anyone else would do

tom says:

well actually some might give a different style but thats the most common style

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

i need that soert of quality

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

tom says:

actually if you want me too continue I will require the pay in advance because I really do think your trying to rip me off

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

rip you off?

how?

and like I said, i am waiting for money to transferr from bank to paypal, takes 9 days

tom says:

by using my things without pay, and I'll wait 9 days

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

I wont use them

and even if I did, you would still get pay

tom says:

I don't have any proof nor am I under contract so you don't really have too so I can't be sure but if you want me to continue I will need the pay in advance

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

your dad is being too protective

tom says:

no this is actually me plus I posted this whole conversation on a forum and quite a few people said you were probably ripping me off

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

;l

tom says:

so will I get it in advance?

Anyone want to buy SH? says:

no.

I would advise that you don't work for him his site is suerteheights.com/site, and thiere are two people who are asking for people too help Zeko and Constant if they ask you for anything just don't do it unless you arent going to do it for pay

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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 11:07am
I strongly suggest against anyone "working" for MMOCCs. 99% of them are crap and I've seen multiple sites being run by the same people in order to get free art from people. Chances are you can tell how professional a potential employer is by their use of proper grammar and willingness to set up a contract
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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 11:16am
"MMOCC's" suck polar bear cock with a straw.
sorry but it's true.
they're all the same and 99% of the time the 'staff' is a bunch of 8th grade kids. who are also most of the times assholes as listed above.
 
so remember guys, if you're looking for your 1st pixel art gigs DONT EVER go for this sh*t.
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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 11:33am
well I expected a worse response than this I was preparing to be called a noob but well I got a better response
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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 12:48pm
nah man you were just unlucky to learn on your own mistake. the fact that the guys are dickheads doesn't make you a noob, everybody's been ripped off at some point in their life.
 
let's hope other guys take notice of this so that they don't repeat :).
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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 1:51pm
Originally posted by Mykola

nah man you were just unlucky to learn on your own mistake. the fact that the guys are dickheads doesn't make you a noob, everybody's been ripped off at some point in their life.
 
let's hope other guys take notice of this so that they don't repeat :).

I actually contacted suerte too, some1 sayd it was wrong email and he would send it to the right person.. never heard of it.. but I have now actually made some money with some1 created a mmocc... seems I have been lucky :p
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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 2:01pm
indeed man you been lucky.
I'd avoid that next time if I were you :). Avoid it like a plague lol
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Suerte Heights - Top Form says:
I am 13 too buddy
I have had paypal for over 1 year


That should have been the end of the conversation right there. A 12yr old with a paypal account is not what id call a "business". Also I have no idea how a 12yr old could get and use a paypal account...which would make me suspicious that he's lying about his age in order to trick you into whatever.

Anytime I get a PM from a MMOCC I delete it. Sadly though thats a good chunk of all the PA jobs posted.

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I too reject them all, its for the best :(
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Okay, disclaimer: I might sound like a jerk in some of this, but I'm only saying this, because you have to learn from these mistakes. We're talking money here

1) Don't do bussiness with 13 year olds
2) £15 is not steep, you could've asked for at least £20 for the stuff you'd be making for him
3) Like TakaM said, arrange the payment ahead
4) Your art is not good enough to do paid work, sorry
5) When someone tells you to follow a certain style, follow it, yours is completely out of style
6) You have no proof that he wouldn't have paid you if you'd have finished the job with the quality he expected
7) It would take me exactly 1 minute to remove those preview fonts, he could've ripped you off any time he wanted...

So, I'm sorry, but I'll have to pick sides for the other guy
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Originally posted by Rodder


Suerte Heights - Top Form says:
I am 13 too buddy
I have had paypal for over 1 year


That should have been the end of the conversation right there. A 12yr old with a paypal account is not what id call a "business". Also I have no idea how a 12yr old could get and use a paypal account...which would make me suspicious that he's lying about his age in order to trick you into whatever.

Anyone can have a paypal account, aslong as you have a bank account.


Anytime I get a PM from a MMOCC I delete it. Sadly though thats a good chunk of all the PA jobs posted.

why nots queeze em for the money they've got and f**k off, that's what ive done in the past.
hmmmm.
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Haha 13 year olds.
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FYI, he told me he was 19
hmmmm.
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fyi the internets lie

unless you know the person, never do work without getting some kind of retainer.  i typically require half up front before any work starts.  then, they never get one thing until i see the rest of my money.  at times i will actually only save the left side of the image for a preview.

and like gil said, sorry to be rude, but you really arent good enough to be doing paid work yet.

"why nots queeze em for the money they've got and f**k off, that's what ive done in the past."

i've done that before too. 
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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bullet Posted: 01 June 2007 at 8:35pm
yeh, I think you're getting ahead of yourself theguy, you've got a lot ahead of you if you continue to practice, maybe now isn't the best time to start getting paid for it. at 13, you still have years to get better, so why not wait? I didn't start until a few months ago and even then I still realize I shouldn't stress myself over it, so I stopped for now.

so uhmmm yeah, not all MMOCCs are bad, I've only worked with one once but they were honest and straightforward about everything. too bad they're not all like that. just watch out and pay attention to what gil said
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There's a pubic hair on my keyboard. What the f**k?? I "mow the lawn" so it's not mine. Gross.
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lol, well I figured I should get into it as soon as I could because it isn't going to last forever by the time I'm good enough there will be next to no opportunities left, with all the 3-d games the only ones kepping commercial 2-d games alive are small individual game companies and nintendo and the 3-d companies doing remakes of there old 2-d games.
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Originally posted by theguy

lol, well I figured I should get into it as soon as I could because it isn't going to last forever by the time I'm good enough there will be next to no opportunities left, with all the 3-d games the only ones kepping commercial 2-d games alive are small individual game companies and nintendo and the 3-d companies doing remakes of there old 2-d games.


well that's the biggest ammount of bullsh*t. There will always be a need for pixel-artists.

go get better.
hmmmm.
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bullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:40am
if the 2d games were going to die, then why do the arcade classic releases make millions every year?  there will always be purists.

if you even remotely believe that, then why are you even pixeling?
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bullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:48am
Originally posted by Gil

1) Don't do bussiness with 13 year olds
2) £15 is not steep, you could've asked for at least £20 for the stuff you'd be making for him
3) Like TakaM said, arrange the payment ahead
4) Your art is not good enough to do paid work, sorry
5) When someone tells you to follow a certain style, follow it, yours is completely out of style
6) You have no proof that he wouldn't have paid you if you'd have finished the job with the quality he expected
7) It would take me exactly 1 minute to remove those preview fonts, he could've ripped you off any time he wanted...

So, I'm sorry, but I'll have to pick sides for the other guy


Yeah... that's basically it..
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bullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 2:48am
+ it sounds like your only trying to get money.

Pixel-art is fun, like any art form, and should be the main reason that you do something. Money comes as a reward for lots of practice.
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bullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 3:12am

@theguy:

man you have a serious itch for money dont you? look if you REALLY need dough NOW, there are millions better and quicker old school lil jobs/errands for teenagers that'll get you much better dough than any "MMOCC".
 
that and BEFORE you even START thinking of earning money you should make MUCHHHHH more than a couple of crappy (sorry but it's true - except for that trippy piece which is cool :D) pieces.
Many artists spend YEARS before going pro.
 
so either you tone down your "NOW OR NEVAAAR AGAYNNN" paranoia and spend time actually getting better, or don't do it at all. For the good of mankind. Thanks.


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bullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 3:22am
i think mykola, feron, and gil said it quite nicely and have closed this discussion off.

in recap: get better before even attempting to go pro.
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