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Fluffy
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Topic: Need MSPaint help
Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:07am

I need help. On MSPaint (Can't afford to get anything better..) I open up the template for the Joint single room.

When I try to change the colors it messes up, like for example green when used is black?!?

Anyone have any idea how I could fix this?

Thank You.

EDIT: The problem isn't with saving its with the colors. Like in the pallete I click on a color and try to draw with that color and it comes up like a color in the template.

Edited by Fluffy - 25 June 2007 at 10:34am

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dragonrc
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:15am

Go to file, then save as... then choose .bmp or .PNG

The colors should be fine now.

If not, then I don't know what the problem is...

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Fluffy
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:21am

Its not a problem in saving its in drawing. Won't let me use the colors in the pallete.

Edited by Fluffy - 25 June 2007 at 10:35am

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jalonso
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:03am

More than likely you need to change the file from indexed colors to RGB.

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klav
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:18am

Originally posted by Fluffy

I need help. On MSPaint (Can't afford to get anything better..) I open up the template for the Joint single room.

When I try to change the colors it messes up, like for example green when used is black?!?

Anyone have any idea how I could fix this?

Thank You.

EDIT: The problem isn't with saving its with the colors. Like in the pallete I click on a color and try to draw with that color and it comes up like a color in the template.

if you want to try something besides mspaint thats free:

you can download graphics gale for free.... here: http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/download.html

and since you can't save as a gif in free version... convert it in giffy 2.0 here: http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/Misc__Graphics_Tools/GiFFY.html

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Fluffy
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:25am

To Jalonso: How do you fix the RGB? I'm very new to this..

To Klav: The download for Giffy doesn't seem to work.

I figured out how to fix it. The problem only happens when I open up the file. But if I copy the template and paste it into a new paint window the colors work fine.

Thank You all for trying to help.

EDIT: this link works for Giffy: http://www.downloadbumk.info/GiFFY-20_download-9706.html

Edited by Fluffy - 25 June 2007 at 11:27am

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Monkey 'o Doom
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Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:12pm

The reason is because the gif file is indexed, which means that you have a set palette. That particular gif's palette doesn't have a green color, so paint uses the black, the color it thinks is closest. To get into a mode where any color is fair game, you need to save as 24-bit BMP and then do your pixelling. After you're done you use another tool to convert it back to gif because paint is bad at making gifs with the correct palettes.

Hopefully this explains what dragonrc meant and elaborates on what jalonso said.

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Fluffy Seaman Joined: 06 July 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23	Topic: Need MSPaint help Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:07am
	I need help. On MSPaint (Can't afford to get anything better..) I open up the template for the Joint single room. When I try to change the colors it messes up, like for example green when used is black?!? Anyone have any idea how I could fix this? Thank You. EDIT: The problem isn't with saving its with the colors. Like in the pallete I click on a color and try to draw with that color and it comes up like a color in the template. Edited by Fluffy - 25 June 2007 at 10:34am
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dragonrc Commander Joined: 05 May 2006 Location: Netherlands Online Status: Offline Posts: 294	Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:15am
	Go to file, then save as... then choose .bmp or .PNG The colors should be fine now. If not, then I don't know what the problem is...
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Fluffy Seaman Joined: 06 July 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23	Posted: 25 June 2007 at 10:21am
	Its not a problem in saving its in drawing. Won't let me use the colors in the pallete. Edited by Fluffy - 25 June 2007 at 10:35am
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jalonso Admiral Joined: 29 November 2022 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13537	Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:03am
	More than likely you need to change the file from indexed colors to RGB.
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klav Commander Joined: 01 December 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 128	Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:18am
	*Originally posted by Fluffy* I need help. On MSPaint (Can't afford to get anything better..) I open up the template for the Joint single room. When I try to change the colors it messes up, like for example green when used is black?!? Anyone have any idea how I could fix this? Thank You. EDIT: The problem isn't with saving its with the colors. Like in the pallete I click on a color and try to draw with that color and it comes up like a color in the template. if you want to try something besides mspaint thats free: you can download graphics gale for free.... here: http://www.humanbalance.net/gale/us/download.html and since you can't save as a gif in free version... convert it in giffy 2.0 here: http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/Misc__Graphics_Tools/GiFFY.html
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Fluffy Seaman Joined: 06 July 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 23	Posted: 25 June 2007 at 11:25am
	To Jalonso: How do you fix the RGB? I'm very new to this.. To Klav: The download for Giffy doesn't seem to work. I figured out how to fix it. The problem only happens when I open up the file. But if I copy the template and paste it into a new paint window the colors work fine. Thank You all for trying to help. EDIT: this link works for Giffy: http://www.downloadbumk.info/GiFFY-20_download-9706.html Edited by Fluffy - 25 June 2007 at 11:27am
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Monkey 'o Doom Commander Joined: 24 September 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2994	Posted: 25 June 2007 at 1:12pm
	The reason is because the gif file is indexed, which means that you have a set palette. That particular gif's palette doesn't have a green color, so paint uses the black, the color it thinks is closest. To get into a mode where any color is fair game, you need to save as 24-bit BMP and then do your pixelling. After you're done you use another tool to convert it back to gif because paint is bad at making gifs with the correct palettes. Hopefully this explains what dragonrc meant and elaborates on what jalonso said.
	RPG is numberwang.
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