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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Topic: Lollige wants to fight..
    Posted: 30 May 2007 at 1:03am
Stole mirre's idea too 
To practise on Atonomy... This is my first real humen I have ever drawn......
and his (my) head Sucks....
the rest is .. ok... I think..
Oh the cap sucks too...


How I begon:

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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 3:46am
he has no knee's!haha
and the right shoulde ris a bit wrong
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 3:49am
Originally posted by HiyuKantaro

he has no knee's!haha
and the right shoulde ris a bit wrong

Actually he does have knees.. the lines arnt straight..
and about the shoulders: I think they are right, but the right one looks weird because of the capuchon.. you should be able to see its a capuchon but now you cant.. so Yes I have to fix that...
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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 4:26am
oke,,
are you dutch?
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 4:51am
his feet suggest he is twisting one way, his shoulders suggest he is twisting the opposite direction.

folds needed, all over.

redo the face.  it looks like every other beginners face with the simple cocked smile.  shade in most of the facial features, dont just draw them in, if that makes sense.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 6:12am
Originally posted by Ensellitis

his feet suggest he is twisting one way, his shoulders suggest he is twisting the opposite direction.

folds needed, all over.

redo the face.  it looks like every other beginners face with the simple cocked smile.  shade in most of the facial features, dont just draw them in, if that makes sense.

Folds are hard, with just 2 shades of every color.. (and sometimes 1 more for outline, check other real trainers..).. But I will try offcourse.. Im going to redo the face...
You are right about the feets and the shoulders, ill try to change his shoulders a bit, and hope it fits on his legs than :p
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:00am
Ok changed some things.. This is even worse I think... :(
Cant get every pixel on the right place!

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:06am
reuse colors from other parts, like the skin
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 8:33am
Originally posted by Ensellitis

reuse colors from other parts, like the skin

You mean for folds?
I will try that :)

EDIT:
Started on this, tried to use colors from the hand, but it seems I have removed them all now but I stopped folding.. I checked some real trainers, and none of them, contain folds... so maybe mine should not do so too, to copy their style...



Edited by Lollige - 30 May 2007 at 8:39am
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:03am
if you are going for their style, then you are shading waaay too much then
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:10am
/me is removing shade

Edit:
I didnt notice they allmost did not use shade before... TY :)

Well this is my newer version :)
I edited the legs too.. and the feet.. but now the feets look very stupid, and I cant turn the right (his left) feet to this direction.. its sorta facing the other way now, whereever I put the shading.....



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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:54am

De voet moet vanaf de punt schijn geshade worden ik kon het even niet zo goe din engels uitleggen.

Sorry guys, dutch people talking
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:00am
Originally posted by HiyuKantaro

De voet moet vanaf de punt schijn geshade worden ik kon het even niet zo goe din engels uitleggen.

Sorry guys, dutch people talking

TRanslation:
He said I should shade it from the nose of the shoe... Well actually thats how I had it before.. but that doesnt help.. didnt I say I tried allmost all possible ways of shading?? I think I need to change the position, but thats very hard...
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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:01am
I like the position very much!
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:02am
dude you char looks fat =S (well it does for me)
may the pixels be with you..
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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:03am
if he got a face you could see it has to do with the camera angle
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:09am
Originally posted by Kfuchoin

dude you char looks fat =S (well it does for me)

Yup.. I had the same feeling...
And its a portrait of me, and im NOT fat.. to be honest, I have a very atletic body.. Ok thats not true.. but im far from fat.. So this HAS to be changed.. I have allready reduced the size of the arms.. now for the body....

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:39am
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:10am
there you go, if tehre was anyhting wrong ens get it
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:10am
Originally posted by Ensellitis


It seems im far from being finished...
I think your edit is a bit too round, my head is pretty oval.. but it could be a bit more round, yes..
on the rest: I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT!!!
so I will just have to make some other edits..
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:16am
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rstrainerpics.html

all of the heads are round...  in anime, 90% of the heads are rounded more than oval
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:18am
Originally posted by Ensellitis

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rstrainerpics.html

all of the heads are round...  in anime, 90% of the heads are rounded more than oval

Mine will be the first!!
ok ok ok, ill make a round head
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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:40am
if you think about round heads,, it doesnt sound natural.
but if you see those Pokemon examples it doesnt even sound strange
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 12:00pm
Back to the basics than...

I think everything is around right now, exept for the cap...
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 12:05pm
lol now the body is too straight, and it looks ike the "one piece" guy with taht hat =S i think that the other cap was ok
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 12:25pm
If you look at the references your piece's proportions are way out of whack from theirs. Basically it's too big. Also, the head is now too round, they have a point at the chin and they still have a forehead, temples, skull... etc.

Keep it up.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 1:57pm

you have permission to trace the BASIC outline of mine if you want to...  but here is the kicker...  dont use my outline.  use it to get an idea of the shapes and sizes, then modify the lines, and make them yours.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by Larwick

If you look at the references your piece's proportions are way out of whack from theirs. Basically it's too big. Also, the head is now too round, they have a point at the chin and they still have a forehead, temples, skull... etc.

Keep it up.


Oops you are right!
Started one this weekend in 64 x 64, but I threw it away, started thisone today but forgot to do it 64 x 64.. maybe I will just fully redo it..
Oh I see. some of them are 80x80 and some are 64x64..
Well than I will go on with thisone..


Edited by Lollige - 31 May 2007 at 7:37am
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2007 at 4:14am
Hmm...
Its not the best, but im not shure if I want to continue with it now, or just submit it..

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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2007 at 4:20am
much better with the hat and the head.  now work on the body some.

his left (our right) arm is too curved, it looks bowed.  bring it closer to his body. the shading i used on mine's shirt is from his arm.  so you need to give it a reason to be there. 

his legs need tweaked a little bit, the look very stubby.

add some selective outlining, see min or others in the gallery for a ref.

all the angles need to go the same way.  his crotch is like ) but his arms suggest ( which makes it look like he is twisting his hips alot

does look a sh*t load better though, keep at it
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Quote Unlocked Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2007 at 7:23am
These pokemon characters are for a challenge or collab?
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Quote Monkey 'o Doom Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2007 at 7:32am
It's a de facto collaboration, basically. Some people saw this piece by Mirre and decided to do the same, pixelling themselves in the style of pokemon trainers.

RPG is numberwang.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 03 June 2007 at 12:10pm
yup, its all mirre's fault I have to work soo much on this piece to fix things...
If she had not drawn that, I would never have started
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 06 June 2007 at 12:29am
Tadaam
No more round head..
it was too round :p

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Quote Skull Replybullet Posted: 06 June 2007 at 12:59am
The eyes are too large to match the style.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 06 June 2007 at 1:24am
Originally posted by Skull

The eyes are too large to match the style.

My referrence:

and he has his eyes allmost the same as I do..
in anime large eyes means you are not a bad guy.


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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 18 June 2007 at 12:12pm
I know I have allready submitted it, but I got some great comments on pixelation later on it, and here is what I got since I worked on it there:

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 18 June 2007 at 11:15pm
the torso looks a bit large for me, and the arms looks like tentacles. and that neck need at least one more pixel under the rigth eye.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2007 at 10:25am
thanks for the neck, ur right about that.. I made torso some smaller, but it doesnt look better or worse to me.. I also made the shirt a bit longer, and what do you mean with that you say the arms look like tenticals? why do they look so and how should I fix it?


EDIT:
oops an error.. newer version:




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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2007 at 2:52pm
they look like tentacles because the pose of his left arm is imposible! he has no bones. give that poor trainer an elbow.
 
also, about the shirt, why don't you try to make the lower part a bit rounded?
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2007 at 7:37am
Originally posted by Metaru

they look like tentacles because the pose of his left arm is imposible! he has no bones. give that poor trainer an elbow.

could you make an edit plz?

Updated t-shirt, thanks metaru :)

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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2007 at 10:07am
I think it looks much better now. Maybe some brighter highlights on his hat and shirt?

And where is his hair? :P
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 20 June 2007 at 4:27pm
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i've changed the arm's pose(rigth), also, shortened the left one, do an small edit on the shirt's ending, reduced the torso a bit, added some hair, and give him a much more "challening" attitude by just make him look at you(after all, if he is challenging you, why he isn't looking at you?)
 
edit: tried to change how he holded the pokeball, but i thougth i've made enougth edits for now :P


Edited by Metaru - 20 June 2007 at 4:29pm
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 07 July 2007 at 4:13am
Originally posted by Metaru

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i've changed the arm's pose(rigth), also, shortened the left one, do an small edit on the shirt's ending, reduced the torso a bit, added some hair, and give him a much more "challening" attitude by just make him look at you(after all, if he is challenging you, why he isn't looking at you?)
 
edit: tried to change how he holded the pokeball, but i thougth i've made enougth edits for now :P


FOr all of you who have seen my other wip topic: I should have known before I would not be able to get my self to work on it.. Ill just make them some other present, but not something great like I had planned... Im not able to make what they are worth... Im a week im going with vacation, so I hope I can finish some pixel pieces before then so I go away with a nice feeling...
Metaru, the new pose looks great! But I cant really get it right.. I started with copying your pose, and then move it untill I had it the way I wanted it, and that was just exactly the same pose I started with :p Its still not right I think, he is missing a bit of a shoulder on his left, our right...
I changed the colors, I really like it you made the colors more what they are instead of the greyness it was... Remade them all myself exept for the t-shirt one... I dont have a good program here exept paint, so I have to check later if there are double colors in it now...
I dont have that much hair at the moment, normally I let it grow for a year, than its a thumb long, and then its all cut off, then its a milimetre long, and then in summer, when its very short I wear a cap sometimes.. but yes its more hair than nothing, so I added some hair.. You are right about the eyes, tryd to change it before but I got the samething you got now, its facing the other direction, but not to us.. Now I changed the position of the eyes, and it looks ok, exept for that the eyes are less visible...


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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 09 July 2007 at 10:52am
Finally resubmitted it!


http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/21580.htm


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