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Doomcreator0
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Well I'm trying out some new forms of dithering in my pieces.
I only know a few. So if anybody can post a good link that explains them or shows them well it'd be appreciated.
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greenraven
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Na na na na na na na Batman! *twirly twisty loops* (don't ask, I'm on one of those moods.)
![]() Anyways, dithering tutorial. If you want I can give some more. |
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Doomcreator0
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Larwick
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Well i mean, once you understand normal dither you can start messing with it a bit, simply adding bigger circles than single pixels in places to give a texture, same with adding hollowed circles or even squares or other shapes. I've seen some people like Helm use a cloudy poofy styled dither which is basically just large circles and cloudlike shapes merging with the other colour... if that makes sense. Basically just fiddle with the concept, you should come up with something. Practice makes perfect.
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Doomcreator0
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Yeah. Lately I've been messing around and it gives it this sort of rough scratched texture. :) I'll keep working on it.
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Metaru
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Originally posted by greenraven Na na na na na na na Batman! *twirly twisty loops* (don't ask, I'm on one of those moods.) ![]() ![]() Quick! to the Paintcave! |
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I ate leel's babies
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jalonso
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It would be so cool to collect all the various examples of dithering in the gallery somewhere.
*BRONZE star for he/she who undertakes this project. *SILVER star for he/she who undertakes this project and catalogs them with zooms. *GOLD star for he/she who undertakes this project and catalogs them with zooms, plus gets artist approval for showcasing. *TITANIUM star for he/she who undertakes this project and catalogs them with zooms, plus gets artist approval for showcasing AND creates custom brushes for downloading for several graphic software. **PJ does not have titanium stars but if you do this one WILL be created. Edited by jalonso - 23 December 2007 at 10:39am |
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greenraven
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Wasn't there already a metal tutorial somewhere on the forums? I remember seeing one...
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jalonso
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That's a coloring metal tut.
I meant dithering styles. |
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greenraven
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Oh, my bad. I thought you meant a tutorial on how to dither those stars in order to earn them.
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Acherhar
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*Raises hand* I will, I will!
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Larwick
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Haha, i loved the spontaneity of that jal.
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Doomcreator0
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I'm on it Jal. I've learned loads of it already from Pixelation.
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Metaru
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the old man knows how to lure children's attention.
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I ate leel's babies
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Acherhar
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Ew :P
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jalonso
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Doom discuss with Acherhar whose already on th project. You two could collab on it.
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Doomcreator0
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Sure
what do you mean by
artist approval for showcasing AND creates custom brushes
DITHER BRUSHES!?!?!??! And approval as in examples?
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tuaarita
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Like the brush shape as it automatically creates the dither-effect. you know?
they work only in photoshop and paint shop etc. Edited by Leroy - 24 December 2007 at 12:20pm |
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I'm running in the desert,
running in to the sun, running out of blood and I'm going numb. |
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Doomcreator0
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Well I know paint already has ditherbrushes.
I'll have to research how to make them in Photoshop though.
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jalonso
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Making brushes in Photoshop:
• Make the pattern you wish the brush to be using black on a transparent BG. • Trim to smallest possible size • Save as a brush • Repeat as many times as needed • Export brush set • Share will all ![]() Using other's brushes: • Place set in 'brushes' folder • dither away Edited by jalonso - 24 December 2007 at 3:37pm |
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Doomcreator0
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The problem with brushes that I make is that it doesn't leave the pattern. It looks like normal brushes. You have to click seperately each time.
Is that right? I'm new to brushmaking :P
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jalonso
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huh? using Photoshop?
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Doomcreator0
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Yeah. Like I know Paint has a ditherbrush mode
But when I try a specific dither it doesn't get the pattern down right if you hold it down.
You have to click over and over
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jalonso
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I know nothing about MSPaint.
I did find this the other day tho. I added it to the links page in the gallery for da futurz |
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Doomcreator0
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For those of you who want to ditherbrush MSPaint(Don't blame me)
Go to Image>Attributes>Black and White
Then your palletes turn into different dithers
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Acherhar
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OMG Doom that is awesome, I seriously never saw that, what an interesting tool! |
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Doomcreator0
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Don't use it! It's a bad brush.
![]() But as soon as you save it, I'm pretty sure that you can't really edit it anymore. Or it's hard to. I haven't done much with that.
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Acherhar
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Oh yes, I know that it won't be pixelart, but it's a very interesting thing. No worries!
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Doomcreator0
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One more tip. Normally most people think that x8 is the highest zoom. But there's sort of a x10 glitch.
![]() Click in the red box a few times and you'll find a secret x10 zoom.
![]() Although that's not the zoom function, switch to zoom and click there and you'll find it. ![]() Edited by Doomcreator0 - 24 December 2007 at 7:32pm |
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Monkey 'o Doom
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If it was actually a bug and it was caused by a formula-based zoom-setting function (as I suspect), I would think one could hack the EXE and increase the height of that box (sounds easy enough, assuming it's just a constant someplace) to get arbitrarily-large zooms. I think that prospect merits further inspection.
EDIT: MSPaint has a tile-grid feature. I was not aware of this prior to now, most likely because it's not accessible via menus.
I deem this project highly neat. Edited by Monkey 'o Doom - 24 December 2007 at 7:52pm |
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Hapiel
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Originally posted by jalonso AND creates custom brushes for downloading for several graphic software. lots of dithering techniques can not be drawn with brushes.. also the best is to draw them by hand, so you can make them as dirty or as non dirty as possible. Im working on an image where I show alot of dithering techniques, but you have to take it as a guide, you cant put everything in one image.. for example take helm's spartan: http://pixeljoint.com/pixelart/12082.htm# you cannot exactly say what dithering techniques he had used, its all different.. you can say he uses alot of horizontal lines, but you can not descripe where the gaps will be.. so you can draw a brush with the stripes, but not with the gaps on the right place. What im creating now is just a guide.. EDIT: I think these are the most important ones, but feel free to add! ![]() Edited by Lollige - 25 December 2007 at 2:13am |
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Doomcreator0
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Monkey of Doom. It's there, I use it all the time, it's just like a sort of glitch. And thanks Lollige. I've got the majority of those but thanks for some. |
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Monkey 'o Doom
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You mean the 10x zoom? I know it's there; I use it. I meant I was wondering if it was completely unintentional and a real bug/glitch, instead of an option they just decided not to include in the final version or something.
I'll be trying to add a way to access the grid options dialog, assuming the dialog actually does stuff once you get to it. EXEs are such a pain. D:
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Doomcreator0
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I think it's more of a bug that came with all of them.
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Monkey 'o Doom
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I don't think we're communicating very effectively. @(>_<)@
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Metaru
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don't save dither patterns as brushes(brushes doesn't work for this). instead, save them as textures. in that way, the dithering pattern bitmap is always placed eficiently and never gets messed.
should I make a more detailed explanation? |
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I ate leel's babies
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