I've been bothered that many art teachers don't know about higher perspectives such as 4 5 and 6 point perspective. How much did your art teacher teach you? I bet most stopped at 2 or 3 point perspective. There seems to be a lack of knowledge in the art world about higher vanishing points.

Edited by Pixel_Outlaw - 17 December 2007 at 11:19am

I learned at high school that perspective can have as much points as you want! Depends on direction of objects..

But I only learned that because I tought it should be like this, so I asked my teacher and she showed me some examples. the rest of my (ex)class probably don't know anything more than about 1 and 2 points

Don't think was ever shown anything past two point, but then I didn't do any art beyond grade ten.

From what I've seen of the higher point perspectives they appear to be for fisheye effects which is not so generally useful.

My teacher always wheres the same clothes,and she is a dumb "swear word", i hate her,but it is ok now because where are drawing comic illustrations.

I was too cool for Art.

I took Design and build a bench - like a real man.

art... is art. that's all. There is no need to get complicated with unnecesary terminology and pseudo teorical entrophy.

(NB. haven't read much of the thread)

You're right PO, this is a problem. One thing i've found with my art classes throughout school and college is how little the teachers really explain and enforce certain ways of doing things. In the end, all the examiners seem to care about is whether you've researched enough artists, you've written enough notes and gone about the whole thing in the right way, they don't seem to care so much about the final piece. I could be exaggerating a little but that's generally how i see it. If that makes sense.

I hope that wasn't too off topic.

Perspective-wise, i suppose it's up to the artist themselves to learn about this sort of thing in more detail if they're not taught it directly. Which sucks.

Pixel_Outlaw

You are right, but maybe taking it to an extreme with 4 and 5 vanishing points.

I only had one College (High School in USA terminology) teacher that was any good, and he was supportive more than technical. The only technical tip I ever got from any of my teachers was distance haze, and that was only the most basic, did not expand into horizon haze, or mist etc. So I experienced no perspective training at that time.

As an animator, I was glad that John Ewing believed in life drawing (though still clothed, and only young thin women) and acting classes. He did miss on dance. I learned more about drag and flow and arc of motion by watching my GF in her Jaz Dance classes.

I believe that to train the best artists, a confidence course would be great. Most good artists never become great artists because they are too self conscious or scared of making that line.

I now only want to learn from the best. I learn nothing from so called "Art Teachers" as they have never stepped out of their comfort zones. I also learn from teaching people. I seldom get anyone who is masochistic enough to be a student, but I have to put what comes naturally into a thought, consider the thought, and make words to describe thoughts.

I have yet to encounter the perspective math, so I would be interested if there is a book or a link.

It is all well and good if you have a programming background, and I do not. In fact Sine Cosine and Tangent are the only thing I missed. My teacher way back in the day (a staffing shortage) just admitted that he did not understand that part of math, and skipped the subject. I always knew that it was going to be the only part of math that I would need in the real world.

I blew up some heads with this old tutorial.

Edited by Pixel_Outlaw - 17 December 2007 at 9:09pm

No worries and good luck sir. I applaud your intentions of furthering your education.

you got a F in sarcasm, sir.

Well, in grade 6-8 we didnt do much drawing (etc.), but a few times we did perspective, and I think we got up to 4 point in grade 6, and re-learned it in 7-8. I totally forget it now. Anyways, now Im in grade 9 and taking art, and we have done ZERO creation of art to this point. We've done more writing in art class than in Business. Which I know it's neccisary, but really =_=