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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Topic: New WIP Art I made in Japan
    Posted: 01 January 2008 at 2:44am
I was in Japan for my Judo and I was bored so I made a drawing.
Now I worked out and I would like to have some tips.
 
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 4:35am
Sorry for the Double post
But I added some shadow on his body

EDIT:Maybe some better?


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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 9:05am
anatomy of the character is weak, for both torso and haircut. I suggest you to use a good reference in order to get the basics, wich seems to be the problem, and don't move to the next step till they got in the exact proportion.

P.S.: yep, I forgot we have this exelent site for anatomy references


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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 9:16am
I know the hair is bad. But what you mean with his body?
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 9:20am
did you check the reference?
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 10:19am
Yea I did. But there isn't a image with his arm down from the side. =[
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:26am
Hello Hidde,

Search more references when you can't find one specific.
This is nice when you want to use formulas instead of
real life images.

Watch the video to find out the position of the head
to the torso and the position of the arm.

There are a lot of interesting videos to watch, but
unfortunately not all 263 videos that were made. You have
to buy the most of them!


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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 12:45pm
Maybe this is some better?
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 2:19pm
no. the shape of the chest are and torso in general is like... as if he melted. do you practice judo? look at your own body. you'll never find the exact reference, since they'll just give you hints and guidelines on how each element is placed/aligned, and this means that you have to, usually, check a picture for each part of the image(in this case, shoulders, hand, arm, chest, abs and face)

remember, they are references. or else, you would be tracing.
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:57pm
Hello Hidde,

Maybe it would be better if you first would
draw the figure with pencil.
Take for instance this (Nudity!) from the website that
Metaru has adviced flip it horizontaly and draw it.
It comes close to what you are trying to do and while
drawing it you can maybe find the proportions for your
pixel.....


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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 02 January 2008 at 1:21am
Is this maybe some better?
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 02 January 2008 at 4:13am
I made a better one. I took some refferences and deleted the hairs to make first the body right.

Is it already some better?
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 02 January 2008 at 10:51am
Hi Hidde,

You still have incorrect proportions.
There is a head height between the chin and his
breasts and the elbow is around his navel.

This is an indication on an older piece you made,
but I was hoping that you could figure it out with
the reference given.



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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 02 January 2008 at 12:12pm
How about this?
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 02 January 2008 at 11:55pm
Nobody have a tip ? I can use ur proffesional tps :Pi
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 5:52am
Because there where no tips. I worker forward myself. I added his legs.

Now I see this. I see the shadow on his body doesn't look right. I need a idea to change that
 
 
 
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Quote crisisstar Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 8:38am
His upper legs (dont remember what they are called, thighs?) seem a bit short.
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 9:55am

Maybe like this? I gave him a boxer too. Because he more looked like a girl :P 



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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 11:55am
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Quote volcom Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 3:04pm
the hand look like they are swollen. make fingers longer and thiner
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 03 January 2008 at 11:28pm
Hello Hidde,

Did you watch the video on youtube that I included
in one of the previous posts?
Try to see the body in proportional relation to eachother.
For instance the body is (*ROUGHLY*) about 8 heads.
Measure the length of your figure too the head size.
The torso is better as it indeed is one headlength
below the head. But your arm starts way to soon,
The width of your head is far larger than the width
of your body. Hands should come below the shorts.

Don't work too much on detail. Get the proportions
right first.

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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 04 January 2008 at 7:25am
Got 2 versions of his arm..
 
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 04 January 2008 at 2:23pm
Head = hole skull = everything including chin!

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 05 January 2008 at 8:33pm

When drawing human figures, whether realistically or anime/manga style, you need to have an understanding of basic anatomy. Remember the How to draw Characters (Male) and (Female) tutorials? The third step is to draw the anatomy of the figure, but without basic understanding, it’s really quite a difficult task to accomplish.

But never fear. Although the body is a complex piece of biology, it can be simplified so that everyone can understand. When drawing the body, you need to at least have an understanding of the major skeletal muscles. These include biceps, calves and abdominal muscles as well as others that you might not know the names of.

In the example below, I have labeled the major skeletal muscles. Although you don’t really need to know the names, other tutorials in books and sites may use these scientific terms, so it’s also good to remember a few.

The major information you should get out of the example below, is not actually the names of the skeletal muscles, but the locations of certain parts of the body. These are labeled in bold. It is also good to spend a bit time remembering how the body looks and how to draw certain parts, so go wild. Also notice how the waist is almost as thick as the shoulders, which is one of the key features that make men and women different.

When drawing the male body, it is usually a good idea to define the muscles.


Yeah, I know that there is a watermark. I spent quite a bit of time on this example, so I don’t really want people to steal it. Don’t worry though, there won’t be many like this, only images I feel appropriate and viable for a watermark. Remember you can save all pictures on this site for references when you draw. You can also distribute and display it, provided to give credit to Alvin Ng as well as this site. See the About Page for what you can and can’t do with the images and information available on Alvin’s Art.
Moving on, the body is a three dimensional figure. There isn’t just the front to study, but the back and site too! When drawing the figure from the back, it’s good to include drawing the shoulder blades, or wings as I like to call them. There’s not much to say about the examples below except try to spend a bit of time looking at them, and maybe practice drawing them so you know how to draw the body at different angles, and where the muscles are located.


Finally, if you want to draw the body, you need to know the average length of certain body parts. From previous tutorials, we have learned that the hand is big enough to cover the face and the adult foot is equivalent to one head. For the length of the legs, look at the Body Proportions tutorial. Usually for adults, the thights and the calves are both one and a half heads each. Sometimes it’s longer, depending on the height of the character. What we haven’t covered though, is the length of the arm.

Usually the Upper Arm is equivalent to one and a half heads. The upper arm consists of the shoulder all the way down to the elbow.

The Lower Arm is equivalent to two heads. The lower arm consists of from the elbow all the way down to the hand (with straightened fingers). Examples are below.


I hope you learned something today whilst reading this tutorial on the Male Body as well as Basic Anatomy for Drawing - Realistic and Anime. Remember to keep practicing, especially since the human body is quite complex, with many different poses and angles that can be drawn. Bye for now ^^


Now there are no excuses: i've posted the whole tutorial here. read it, study it, and show us how courageous you are agaisnt the evils of human anatomy.

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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 06 January 2008 at 9:29am
Woow.. thats so helpful.
I'll take a try
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 09 January 2008 at 8:36am

Made some new things.. I had some good tips too on pixelation

Here is the new version..  
Got any tips?
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 10 January 2008 at 7:33am

Maybe no comments :P But for the people who want to see how far I am so far...  I'm making the human smaller because I think it's better to begin small and than go bigger. And because this is my first humanly art I'm going to make him smaller.

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Quote Fenne Replybullet Posted: 10 January 2008 at 8:28am
Well, I think it definetly looks better than the bigger ones :)
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:28pm
Thanks for the message ;)
Here is a new version
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Quote M.E. Replybullet Posted: 10 January 2008 at 11:57pm
Hidde,

Please, please pretty please make a proportional
correct figure before you do anything else.
Metaru gave you excellent advice, yet it seems
you aren't listening.

The body is divided somewhere along the waist area.
So the number of heads on top should be the same
at the bottom.



Count the heads, read the posts and adjust
the picture please!

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Hoi Hidde,

Kun je alstublieft de tips van Metaru volgen en
een correct proportionele figuur maken.
Het midden van een menselijk figuur zit rond
het kruis. Dus de hoeveelheid hoofden die
boven zitten moet gelijk zijn aan de hoeveelheid
hoofden aan de onderkant.
Over het algemeen zitten er vier hoofden in het
bovenste gedeelte en vier hoofden in het onderste
gedeelte.

Groetjes van,

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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:49am
you do realise there is a point in pixelart you pretty much have to abandon traditional proportions to get at least some detail in there?

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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:58am
perhaps he migth realize that when he first learns these traditional proportions.
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 16 January 2008 at 7:46am
It's a long time ago
But on my own computer I can't log in on PJ Forum
So I took my dad's laptop
I had some good tips on the pixelation forum
So this is what I got
 
 
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Quote hiddddde Replybullet Posted: 17 January 2008 at 10:03am

I changed his arm a bit because he was so small..##

But now I'm in trouble with his legs..
The look so bad :P
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