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    Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:00pm
I have just started regular pixel art. I have prior experience with little graphics and stuff but i just started doing pixel art like this

Please give me C+C and tips
Hopefully its not that bad and i do plan to work on the shading. As i remember it now and dont forget it later i only have MS paint. SO i cant do the fancy stuff
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Quote promiser Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:08pm
is this and alien helmet? because the shape look wrong for it to fit a human head
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:08pm

Yes. I have though about that and it is some alein war helmet



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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:12pm
pretty much inspire on halo, i suppose.

do you have previous experience in graphics? weird, considering that poor gradient shadowing you got. unless your helmet is a badge, i suggest you to search for a good reference, study it and start it over. i could make an edit if you don't mind to show an example on how you could properly shade it and give volume.
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:14pm
No i dont mind if you make an edit. I am Currently working on the shading. And yes i do have a little previous graphic works. But nothing like big projects. I have never really had the patience for pixel art untill now. Where i am so interested in it. In a second i will post a second draft
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:18pm

 I have done some minor work around the breathing area and i have recolored the border of the goggles and re-shaded the goggles. I am not satisfied yet with the goggles
 
And if you guys want to make some edits i would not mind it. It might give me some ideas
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Quote promiser Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:21pm
here is a few references
http://x-realms.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/halo_helmet03.jpg
http://www.netcomposites.com/images/bmwhelmet_0605.jpg
http://www.duckandcover.cx/official/fallout2/files_files/f2box300.jpg
http://gamez-vault.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/fallout-3-3.jpg
the first is halo helmet the second is some random thing and the last to are fallout but that doesn't matter any ways there is so u can get a general idea good luck
(rest in peace Black Isle(the company that made Fallout and diablo and other amazeing games for their time(they will be immortal)))
EDIT: i just slaped together a lil sup'm sup'm for kindof an idea if ur helmet is human

not much and it's small but it's a general idea no detail either but u get the idea
"Hopefully its not that bad and i do plan to work on the shading. As i remember it now and dont forget it later i only have MS paint. SO i cant do the fancy stuff "
I'm useing paint to but there's nothing wrong with it i think alot of this stuff is in paint too so don't feel bad it takes dedication =)


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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:23pm
Thanks for the referances. I am going to work on the shading of the helmet now.
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 7:38pm

 I have done work on the shading of the helmet color. I made it rounded. Also i have changed the visor. I dont like the visor but i cant seem to get it right. Still working and determend to get as far as possible tonite. and thanks to those that are helping
 
EDIT-Currently i am out of ideas. I have done some shading on the visor.
C+C



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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:32pm

 
Theres some more stuff done. I made a breathing thing lol idk if i like it tho so i kept the version before it too.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:37pm
your shading doesn't make any sense. the shading is meant to give an image a sense of volume and shape.


this might be a useful reading. study it carefully.

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Quote promiser Replybullet Posted: 11 January 2008 at 9:41pm
the one with the gray attachment at the bottom looks in my opinion a lil nicer
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 8:30am
Thanks for the edit its a good ref and thanks for shading tut
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:06pm



 Made some edits on the shading. i think it looks better. Still am not done tho

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:09pm
Much improved!
Maybe too many colors tho. 4 blues, 3 yellows 3 greys is enough. Then add one shade that can highlight the three color ramps.
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:12pm
Thanks Jal! I have been browsing around the forums for a while and im glad you posted in this. Currently i am trying to cut down the colors.
I am finding it hard  But i will post with an update in a few
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:18pm
Eliminating colors is the easiest thing to do.
Make your colors palette like you did there and when any two colors look visually similar one is gone.
your blues 123456 - 2 + 3 + 4 look the same so 2 + 4 are gonerzzzz
your yellows 12345 - 3 + 4 look pretty much the same ditch one
your grey 123
then everything that is black is made blue 1


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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:26pm
Thanks a bunch. I had no problem on the helmet itself but the Goggles are giving me so much trouble. I have new colors for them now. and i am trying to find a way to shade them better
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:35pm

There i updated the colors. Thanks to Jal for the color help haha. Hmmm what to do now. Suggestions?
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 12 January 2008 at 10:07pm
EDIT- Not finished


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Quote BlackDragon Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:36am

No, you're not finished.

Your lighting is still inconsistent, and the lines aren't the cleanest.

You did a great job so far but don't just say you're finished... You can still inmprove.

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:56am
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 1:23pm
Thanks a bunch Jal
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 1:52pm

 There i fixed the shading and lighting on the goggles. The helmet is giving me SOOOO much trouble wiht the shading
 
EDIT-Dont want to 3 posts so
 

Not done on the shading tho


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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:17pm

THere i fixed shading/lighting issues for the most part. HELP i am stuck and idk wat to do know :/ i wish Jal is online to helpee mee
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:23pm
You did notice my edit up there right? o.O
What more can I do?
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:27pm
YESS ur a big help and i cant decide what to do now or if im done[which i know im not] and IDK! Hmmmmmmm thats why i need ur help. and you have been such a nice person since i posted this and ur my fgav person on this forum
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Quote leel Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:28pm
aww how cute

Look at the tutorial again.  I mean, I just glanced for a second and I clearly noticed that you didn't work on the bottom piece at all.

Work on that then.
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:48pm



THere work done on the bottom peice now wat? ahah

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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:56pm
It is very important to search for solutions by experimenting and having patience.
Help is gladly given but 'what nexts' is a bad habit for you to get into.
You must solve these questions on your own for the most part.
You have to zoom in to all the edits furnished to you already and study them till you 'see' them.
The solutions are all here already. You must prove that do do 'see' them and are trying to implement these suggestions and technical details in a way that shows enough so that PJ members continue to help you along.

You can do it, concentrate and be patient.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:42pm
you forgot to say "grasshopper" Miyagi-Jal.
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Quote Kee Replybullet Posted: 14 January 2008 at 5:47pm
I have finished as i can't find anything else to do.
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 14 January 2008 at 8:55pm
you have a lot to do. these highlight aren't as good as they are supposed to be, Daniel-San.
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