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Quote Floating Turtle Replybullet Topic: Jasc PSP 8 Inquiries (For Comic Coloring)
    Posted: 01 April 2005 at 7:44pm
Hello, though this is not directly pixel related I remember a lot of the folks from Pixelation were masters of PSP and therefore I am in need of some assistance in regards to some detailed workings of the program.  I have picked up an excellent opportunity to perhaps become a comic book colorist however, this would make me have to use PSP 8 in an entirely new way.  My issue is that if I fill in an entire page of colour and send it to the artist he will obvioulsy want to make some revisions to my art.  This is where the problem is because once I save the file to send to him it will merge and flatten everything as one layer with the process I have been using...which is colouring in the actual line art using say the magic wand, etc.  So for example, if he askes me to change the shade of green I have chosen or whatever which by chance I painted in near the start there is no way I will be able to go back to that colouring to undo it....also...once I fill in the colours I will not be able to use the magic wand to grab the entire white spaces in the line work to colour in as they will have blended colours with gradients, etc....I am fairly a rookie indeed, there must be a way to continue working on something and change even the third thing you've done...can anybody give me a step by step process of how this would be done in PSP8.  Say for instance, you receive the line work...which method would you use to fill in the colours to what the requests are from the artists so that if you have to make a specific revision to anything you can alter that?....
Thanks alot a) for reading all that, and b) for helping!!


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Quote Psychotic_Carp Replybullet Posted: 02 April 2005 at 8:16am
do the coloring on another layer and send it to him in a psp or psd file they will not remove the layers
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Quote Floating Turtle Replybullet Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:47am
Hello Mr. Carp and thanks for the assistance.  I do however have a couple questions about what you've said.  Ok, so saving in PSD..I'm stupid not too think of that so thanks....however, I am also stupid as I have never used this program or photoshop for my art...I am a classic 'slap-that-acrylic-on-canvas' painter...so with that said, do I do each colour in a new layer?  How will I be able to go back in and edit one specific colour...and also, within a new layer I don't think I can use the magic wand tool to grasp a section of the line work...I'm an excellent colourist in the real world meaning I know my lighting and shading, etc. and I know I could fill in line work quite well on the computer...just the revisions and process I don't understand.  I also have to have this done by tomorrow night!!  AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!...well, thanks for the reply and I hope to get some more specifics on this..
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Quote Floating Turtle Replybullet Posted: 02 April 2005 at 1:58pm
Ok...so I'm having a lot of little issues...I've been using PSP for about three months now but only for personal stuff and therefore I have learned the basics of using the tools and effects and zooming and text and obtaining glows around items and stuff like that but never used layers.  Here is some more issues I am having when I attempt filling in this page (can't even get started)...Ok, considering the page is 2677 x 4112 pixels my computer is already having issues(super slowing down) with the size when I transfer the black and white linework (256 colours) to 16 million colours....any way I can work around this in a more effective approach without losing any quality of the image that I will have to send back to him?...I also tried to work in layers but you can open a new raster layer, new vector layer, new layer group, new mask layer, & new adjustment layer??...>I tried opening a new raster layer and using this I can not utilise the wand tool to grasp a section of white in the line work as it grabs the whole top layer which is above the background (linework)..also, I am unsure how I will be able to adjust a certain colour if revisions are needed?...anyways..I know I might sound stupid but I really haven't used this program or adobe photoshop for the layer work so it is all really new to me...
Can anyone assist me with getting this off the ground...once I get going I can finish this page and send it off and perhaps land a great little freelance contract...I'll love you forever if you help me!!
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Quote patrickpatricka Replybullet Posted: 02 April 2005 at 11:33pm
You have to put more effort to what they're saying.  This is the way.  I only have PSP7, but I can say you have to have the lineart on a seperate raster layer,  set to multiply.  This layer with the line art should be the top layer.
Every color or frame (however you want to split them up) should be on thier own seperate layer.  There layers will be below the lineart layer.  What you paint on them will be visible under the lineart, but it will only be visable because the lineart is set to 'multiply', this will allow you to do things on those bottom layers without editing the top layer permanently.

When you save, save it with 'save as' as a psp., this will allow you to edit it later.    You can also choose 'save' and save it as a .png or .jpeg to show to your lineartist, so he dosent need to have PSP to see it, but you'll have the .psp file to edit on (because the seperate layers are independant of each other.)
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Quote Floating Turtle Replybullet Posted: 03 April 2005 at 6:34am
Thank you...this is really helping...I'm about to finally start and then...Now the biggest issue of all.  I was about to go and follow these instructions as they finally made a lot of sense to me the way you described it.  However, I need to clear up the other ordeal I am having with size.  I can watch movies, make music, etc. on my computer but for some reason when it comes to transferring the 256 line work to 16 million colours my computer just won't even function..It takes like 4 minutes to select a brush...its insane...basically I can't even get started..the line work that he sent me is 400 ppi making it quite massive for obvious quality reasons but perhaps I just can not do this because of my computer...I feel like I was getting close to really digging into it and then I realized I can't even start....is there any known techniques of making this file more manageable while I work?  I attempted lowering the 400 ppi to 100 and then re-raising it after a couple colours and it of course was very pixelated and garbage for what i need.  Now I'm in a pickle...anything I can do for this?
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