i assume it's a golfcart? are you using any reference images- if so it might be helpful to post them, if not then it would certainly be helpful to get some.

I'd watch the use of interior black outlines (in fact, edges that are pop out toward the viewer are usually indicated by a line lighter than the adjacent planes). On the subject of planes- pick a lightsource and shade the planes accordingly. contrast between planes that touch will add some three-dimensionality to the piece.
in addition to shading in this manner, observe the wheels. i'm not sure why they lack outlines, or have broken light edges. you might want to construct a transparent model before jumping into coloring and the like, as drawing the axels would help a lot in ensuring you place the wheel in the right place (right now they do not align). The wheels on the side facing the viewer are also too close together. The cart itself (assuming this IS a golfcart) is all out of whack- the top shouldn't overhang that much, there seems to be no front to the vehicle (where is the engine housed?), etc. I'd really recommend googling references, seeing how your piece differs from the real thing- and adjusting accordingly.

also- drop those other iso entries! you've only got a day, so you need to pick one and focus on it (ideally, you shouldn't have started these tangent pieces in the first place- it's detrimental to your concentration and how much you're able to invest in a single work. aim for quality, not quantity).


Edited by ThereIsNoCure - 22 May 2010 at 8:18pm

In iso, especially, you just can't run and draw. You must play within the iso grid.
Work from the ground up. Here I drew a tire then copy/pasted using the 2:1 and drew my basic shapes from the wheels up. Then started coloring and detailing.
I've left it as simple as I could.
I commented on your gallery submission (some other Mod sent it back, like I suspected), that the wheels were 1px wide. That's because I use a dark theme and the wheels didn't show up. That's why my edit is on a grey BG. Keep things like that in mind in future pieces.


This is your ref, it shows nothing o.O






Edited by jalonso - 22 May 2010 at 9:09pm

I was trying to show you how simple it is. Iso is very, very easy.
Patience and keeping to the grid. I believe in you :)

Remember you saying "but, the seat is white"?
Looks white but I used no color white.


Edited by jalonso - 22 May 2010 at 9:21pm

I can't c+c these right now but will tomorrow.
Almost nothing is on the iso grid. I do like the middle one tho.

g'nite :)

See balamoot's gallery sometime, he's great with iso vehicles.


Edited by jalonso - 22 May 2010 at 9:57pm

This post is a copy of a 2nd thread that was opened >:(








Soooooo…go draw this truck and the other truck  using these guidelines… Leave the ice cream one for when these 2 are complete.

ON THIS THREAD!!!


Edited by jalonso - 23 May 2010 at 1:24pm

My thoughts exactly. Insane edit.

I just love you guys.

Man, I hate to be all over you but listen. While you have pieces as WIP threads submitting them to the gallery makes the following 2 things happen:

1) Nobody wants to help you because you are showing you don't give a sh*t about c+c and any help whatsoever. This help means for the current AND any future pieces. For example, I'll be more hesitant to even try to help thinking you'll submit to the gallery before I even make a comment much less an edit (which takes time away from my own pixels.)

2) Your pieces will sit > stew > bore > get rejected > etc.

As I have said before. I admire your tenacity and you obviously want to pixel and certainly keep churning them out. Please try to think of quality over quantity. Take one current piece and work on it till its the best it can be. Perhaps challenges are not for you, just yet. Patience on your part will pay off because others will show patience with you.

*I kinda lost mine.

 Here's my truck. I'm going to submit if there are no problems with it. Then I'll start editing my blue truck and then my lemonade stand if there's time left.

1. Thanks, I forgot about that one!!

Not feeling good about the challenge. I managed to get everything edited and submitted but there's only 9 minutes left and no approvals yet.

Edited by HCGamer - 23 May 2010 at 11:53pm

Didn't I just say that? lol Anyway, my two trucks, golf cart, and lemonade stand were all denied last night. Any advice?

"re-read the whole thread :)"

- agreed

Here's this week's challenge entry, I'm going to fix the wheels and resubmit a final time. Speaking to everyone who denied this piece entering the gallery the first time, is there anything else to fix aswell? Thanks.

EDIT: It's animated, but doesn't show up here FYI.

Edited by HCGamer - 17 July 2010 at 11:03am

you Should Getting Rid Off of the Black Outlines it might make it better

where is the engine? the wheel wells? how does that door operate? why are the edges so sharp? what elements could you add to break up the boring brick-shape of the van?
ideas:
a sunroof, a back bumper, ridges along the top of the vehicle, differentiation between the top of the van and the sides it sits atop.

Vehicles have anatomy, just as a person does. They are made of many parts, yours seems to be a brick-shaped body with headlights and a fender slapped on. You need to find and utilize reference images of vans, and study the edit jalonso made earlier in this thread.

Thanks for the advice, I'll also add rearview mirrors.

the wheels are off with the outlining of the car.

And this is quite a lot of improvement :) Keep it up,

add a show and also, don't stick to the same color EXACTLY, thats the biggest problem I have when it comes to ISO pixels, switch the colours a bit but make sure its still around a purple.

Again, improvement :)

Here's a close-to-final copy. I finally fixed that god-awful roof, those non-iso wheels, and gave the driveway tiles an awesome 3d effect. FYI, last time I had changed the flowers, roof, moonroof, rearview window, paintjob, lights and windows. Give any last minute advice, I should be submitting tonight, as long as I have a good few people saying it's gallery-worthy.

EDIT: lol, forgot to put in the actual updated scene.

Edited by HCGamer - 17 July 2010 at 5:35pm

Unfortunately I have learned nothing yet about saturation, so that doesn't really make any sense to me. I'll fix the rest and start reading up on saturation.

Here's my latest draft. It is mostly done, I just need to remove 8 colors. It kind of looks like a pimpmobile now with that purple color on a long vehicle. lol

Been putting in a lot of hours today on this; changed the animation, eccentuated the door handle, and took 8 colors out. I think it's finally done. I'll submit now in fear of not being approved with less than 6 hours left. If I get approved early and I'm still up, I'll take any more suggestions and put them into my approved piece. I'm more than happy with the result, especially compared to my first "final draft".

Well I've spent the last 5 days pouring my heart and soul into this even though right now it's less than excellent. I'd appreciate some C/C. Right now I'm working on adding the one critical missing piece, the headlights, but am having trouble positioning them correctly. And as stated in the other thread, I did the sidewalk and flowers again from scratch to comply with the challenge rules.

Honestly, there's really not much else to say that hasn't already been said. Just try to take the plunge into creating more than coloured line art.

I know you have the ability to produce better than this - you've shown us. I think you just need to keep working at it, and by this I don't just mean making bigger images or longer animations - I mean actually focusing on the pixel aspect of pixel art. You have the desire to learn, which is a good start, but you need to put that enthusiasm to good use.

Anyway, here's an edit of a small part of your image:



Also, what program are you using? If MS Paint, then this is saturation:



All of your colours in this image are right up the top. You should almost never have colours at maximum saturation.