Really cool looking

Drew those some time ago, thats they style I use for clothing

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff368/philippejugnet/Mihra.png

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff368/philippejugnet/Lightgod.png

So you went with the White and green version of Celes it looks like Philippe?... I like that one too. I can't see any thing really as for detail in the second image.. is she wearing a tunic? All of the various costumes for these characters, Terra and Celes are so confusing.

Thanks Christoballs, I used your edit but met in less than the middle on a couple minor things, borrowing mostly from yours. I like how you shaded the back of the leg; and I like the shape of the buttocks a bit better in yours too.. perhaps I was overdoing it.
The palette is really fun to work with. I just changed one color in this last session...I have tinkered with it but had the basic color scheme in mind from the start. But I probably will have to add a few more colors for Terra.

I worked on the grass a bit too and added a few more flowers:

EDIT:
Going to finish the background or close today.. probably going to start finishing Terra as well.. I might be able to use the colors in the horizontal strip above the main palette along with some yellows and green for a floral print pattern.. What do you think; or should I just go above 32 color?






Edited by |||| - 01 May 2012 at 5:02pm

This is looking great, love the background color and athmosphere, there's really something that reminds me of oil paintings, maybe dutch renaissance stuff.
Maybe be careful with the shadows on the girls, the left one is way more contrasted than the right one, so while they both seem to fit the picture individually, they kind of seem not to belong to the same world... kind of like the left one is real and the right one is a (very well) painted cardboard cutout...

Who'd guess one frog legged monster would take almost all day ?...
Anyhow, I hope I'm doing this in a way that makes sense or works; this is the first of.. I'm thinking 3 monsters (including the brainpan and parasol holding clown):

Ah.. now that I have logged in I see it.. I didn't know what the difference was .
Now I see.
Thanks a lot for the extra pair of eyes also Christoballs, I am grateful.




Edited by |||| - 06 May 2012 at 5:30am

Says you. You know how many times i had to fight those freaking pyramid bugs!? SO MANY TIMES!

Then again, there's really not any enemies from FFVI I wouldnt immediately recognize. Man I played that game too much.


But for the enemy right now - he looks like he has no neck. his head is just coming out of the top of his torso.

Aside from that though Im loving this so far. Well, except that I prefer the white caped Celes, but I always think of their sprite designs when I think of them, not that official art that I've always thought was fugly, but hey, Terra's got green hair so awesome. That she's depicted as blonde these days irritates the hell out of me. Celes is already blonde and Terra's (WOOP SPOILER) not completely human, so why not!?

Erf. I'll stop ranting. Keep it up!

@Crozier, I could make more memorable monsters but I like the idea of using common or 'generic encounter' enemies since you don't see that done too often. This is just a common battle in the world of ruin rerendered.. even though I think Brainpans are encountered on the floating continent.. I was hoping to use them but I still haven't started them; thinking about it. About highlighting the tree.. the next color up is a little severe for that. Some of the background will ineluctably be obfuscated especially once it's cluttered with enemies (I hope not to over clutter it).

@Zeratanus, yeah it's body was meant to be this way.. I can see what you mean and his being hunched over and angled differently doesn't help, but he's just a set of lizard jowls protruding off of litlle toad like hind legs. I did give the creature bigger arms than seen in the original graphic to make him seem more intimidating.
I think I will have to make another Celes or edit this one in another alt. piece.. I might as well since I know a lot of people like that version (can edit the yellow one pretty easily, but will need to add more color). I almost did the sprite version of Terra fully with the shoulder armor and the lack of clothes.. I think she has brown boots too. But I'm glad I went with this version. Actually, all these versions kind of drive me insane.. the portraits in the game may or may not vary etc.
 Don't worry, I would have never even considered the blonde version.. I hate it too! And the palette was just screaming "Don't even think about using that canary yellow when you have mint green right there!"

@Mille, I wouldn't have thought to do that and it looks great.

I will start working on the parasol holding enemy now but will put him back in the distance a bit.. fiddled around with it and some sketches for the pose but nothing looks great or inspiring about it :/.

Ok I did add a bit of a neck and I like it so thank you Zeratanus.
 I also added the other three monsters:





Edited by |||| - 08 May 2012 at 4:32am

Thanks Super17..
 I'll move Terra as first suggested; I thought that might be throwing it off composition-wise since adding that bug. I'll post two versions.. one with Terra moved left and rotated and the bigger monster over to the right; and one version with just the pyramid bug removed.
 I've actually been just working on the grass and waiting for some feedback.. I like her pants unaturally tight but if she looks too nude perhaps I should add wrinkles. I am planning on doing another costume version as well but later.
I'm banding hunting in the grass :p... the mission is to seek out slop because there was a bit of it as the grass was very tedious.

Thanks I will probably post a few arrangements, good idea.. the 1st edit was easy enough, just removing the pyramid bug to slake clutter but the next one will take a bit more effort. I may as well post the first one now (thanks about the grass too [now it's cleaner also]: Edit; and here's another configuration: I like it more.. changes what I pictured quite a bit in the beginning.. I was afraid it would take away from the two heroines' sororization but it doesn't too much; it brings them closer. A big plus is it opens up the background. Working in an indexed one layer file so moving them isn't super easy.. good thing I saved different versions at crucial points.

Edited by |||| - 08 May 2012 at 9:51am

Ye, I like it a lot now, the composition could be improved more at some points (the monsters at right are to close to the pictures edge), but you are on the right way I think.

Alright, this is what I think I should do based on these very essential critiques .. I do agree about that fully Zeratanus. Terra seems out of place looking off to the side as she now is, no longer responding to Celes. So I need to fully repixel/redraw her head so that it's reacting to the monsters, her body is such that I can get away with not having to redo the whole sprite- luckily^^ (redrawing the head is hard to do as I am happy with the original but it no longer fits;having to redraw the whole body would depress me severely).
The second thing I ought to do is to extend the canvas again further on the right side just enough.. I'm not so great at composition so thank you Super17.

I also agree partially about the mob of monsters if that's the correct interpretation Philippe Jugnet.. but without them what would the two girls be doing swords drawn and all? I don't take that as a bad comment though because it means maybe I should do another purely landscape pixel art piece.. but in this one the monsters have to be there I think . That was the whole plan anyway... If that was what you mean I do agree; the monsters take away from some value of it in a way but also complete it. So many choices; it can drive one mad.

(also thanks about the 1st monster critique I first resisted Zeratanus; now it really is better in my opinion too).


Edited by |||| - 08 May 2012 at 6:27pm

I agree with what Super17 said about swapping the girls round.
I'd put the pyramid bug left of the the lizard, too.
You're nearly there!


Edited by Christoballs - 09 May 2012 at 2:52am

Moving her up didn't work for me

I think also if I edited Terra's head to be turned in Celes would be blocking her view; must dwell on this for now..
The most epic thing to do would be to really expand the canvas by a lot and add
another big monster on the right side.. But I have too much else to do for now. Any solutions or is fine?
Maybe I should just do it




Edited by |||| - 10 May 2012 at 6:15pm

OK.. I will (I think Terra's leg moved a bit is good) but maybe just a bit (1-2 pixels). I went with plan B!
 The canvas is now about 1/3 longer and I'm adding one of these beasts:
                                                        update:               
Moving her leg 2 pixels and reworking part did the trick for Terra I think.. I will post when I finish the extended background.




Edited by |||| - 11 May 2012 at 10:07pm