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NancyGold
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![]() Topic: Laughably Bad PixelArtPosted: 10 October 2017 at 2:27pm |
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Yay! An Angry Pixel Art Nerd thread! Bonus points if you find _funny_ art from actual commercial games.
I will start with some OGA entries. While OGA does host some decent art, most of the site falls into the land of "I do rather go with ASCII graphics". https://opengameart.org/content/orc-2 https://opengameart.org/content/miniature-world-outside-tiles https://opengameart.org/content/little-truck-for-topdown-game-40x40 https://opengameart.org/content/palmjungle-trees-for-32x32-tileset https://opengameart.org/content/death-version-2 https://opengameart.org/content/pixel-icons-collection https://opengameart.org/content/street-girl https://opengameart.org/content/bearsum-pixel-art-bear https://opengameart.org/content/pixel-weapon-pack-2 Just love how he publishes his webmoney wallet - it is like ``pay me in russian currency or I'll create more "art" like that'' |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 17 October 2017 at 9:44am |
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Long toddlers are long!
https://opengameart.org/content/12-roughlyanimated-isometric-characters Also, note how fleshless skeleton lies in a pool of blood. Just look at teh pillow shading! https://opengameart.org/content/weapon-icons-0 The skeleton is perfect too! https://opengameart.org/content/open-gunner-expansion-pack-2 I'm sure, that is how real or magical gems should be textured: https://opengameart.org/content/32x32-pixel-gems Best tileset ever! https://opengameart.org/content/sprites-for-top-down-rpg |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 19 October 2017 at 5:27am |
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Found an example from commercial game. SNES version of Lost Vikings 2 had nice polished graphics. Then other developers ported it to PC and PlayStation, replacing all pixel art sprites by laughably bad 3d renders:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/norse-by-norse-west-the-return-of-the-lost-vikings/screenshots |
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eishiya
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![]() Posted: 19 October 2017 at 6:12am |
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Taking a dump on art on a forum for people largely seeking to improve their own pixel art and some of whom are worse than some of the examples you've posted, is rather against the spirit of the place, don't you think? That might be one of the reasons no one else has contributed to this thread.
How about instead you turn this into something constructive and critique the art, explaining what makes it look bad and why, offering suggestions for improvement, pixel-overs (where the licence allows it), etc? That way, people can appreciate the poor quality more and, most importantly, learn from it more easily. Edit: Wow, all these years and I never knew PJF had a profanity filter. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 19 October 2017 at 7:59am |
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Originally posted by eishiya How about instead you turn this into something constructive and critique the art, explaining what makes it look bad and why, offering suggestions for improvement, pixel-overs (where the licence allows it), etc? That way, people can appreciate the poor quality more and, most importantly, learn from it more easily. I'm sorry, eishiya. I thought the art would speak for itself, you don't need a degree in pediatrics to find that long toddler would be funny or that bad 3d renders look cheesy. And I'm not an artist myself and most of my art looks horrible. Then again, these sprites at OGA definitely have some character to them, like that orc sprite, so trying to fix them would likely ruin it. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 19 October 2017 at 1:42pm |
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https://allacrost.org - a great example of what would happen, if you take various art in various styles by various artists from OGA and make a game out of it, without much art direction. The tilesets they used are nice and professionally done, but combining them together, without adaptation and editing leads, to funny result.
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 20 October 2017 at 4:57am |
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MMORPG Crossfire, aka 'say goodbye to your eyes':
http://crossfire.real-time.com/screenshots/gallery1/index.html Monster sprites in full glory (take a look at that Dire Wolf and Giant Worm from Final Fantasy): http://crossfire.real-time.com/spoiler/monsters/monsters_a_to_d.html Note, that a lot of better Crossfire sprites were stolen from commercial games (like that demon from Dark Legions). What were they thinking is beyond me, guess Stallman gives them specific artistic license. ![]() |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 22 October 2017 at 1:57pm |
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essadege
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![]() Posted: 24 October 2017 at 12:27am |
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Why should we poke fun at those, exactly?
Is not having a developed skill or having a bad choice making process laughable? |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 24 October 2017 at 5:42am |
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Originally posted by essadege Why should we poke fun at those, exactly? Is not having a developed skill or having a bad choice making process laughable? Why do people watch AVGN reviews, making fun of hardworking people's efforts? And you can learn from bad art too. After all, my first post on this forum was a complain, that I commissioned one artist animating a few isometric sprites, and he totally botched them, breaking anatomy and attaching tail to creature's anus. And that was an artist with two commercial projects in his portfolio (although these were sideview platformers, not isometry). |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 27 October 2017 at 4:00am |
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Here is a checklist on how to spot typical bad [pixel] art and fix it:
https://androidarts.com/pixtut/pixelart.htm Another artist notes, that even a horribly done art piece can get a lot of applaud from general public at reddit: http://purplepwny.com/blog/pixel_art_basics_for_beginners_programmers_and_everyone_else.html so why bother? |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 30 October 2017 at 10:12am |
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Another one from Russia...
https://forum.deviantart.com/jobs/services/2141297/ > Kimyri Professional Digital Artist > 2D artist with a successful 4 year experience in that field > can work in different styles and have an excellent knowledge of Photoshop. > I'm qualified in following fields: GUI, pixel art, icon art (from 24 pixels), avatars, illustrations, isometric houses (farm style games), background, animation and other related. but well all know, that being modest is frowned upon in Russia, where "понты" decide everything. And like typical Russian communist, she also appropriates other people's art: > Do NOT recommend, artist stops communicating if you have an issue then posts YOUR OCs as their own without crediting owner, claiming that since they don't look 100% like your OCs that it's OK. Should be banned! |
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Hapiel
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![]() Posted: 30 October 2017 at 3:26pm |
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I'm not a big fan of this thread snv.. I don't get much entertainment value from laughing at others.
Also, I don't like your generalizations of Russians at all. PixelJoint is an international community, which thrives by compassion, understanding, an open mind and staying away from negative stereotypes. If you want to keep on commenting on artwork of others, I recommend you to take a look at Pixelations "Commercial Critiques". Perhaps you could steer the conversation more in that kind of direction, finding the good and the bad in artworks of the past, without the risk of insulting the creators, and allowing anyone who reads along to learn something new! |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 30 October 2017 at 4:38pm |
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Originally posted by Hapiel I'm not a big fan of this thread snv.. I don't get much entertainment value from laughing at others. Also, I don't like your generalizations of Russians at all. PixelJoint is an international community, which thrives by compassion, understanding, an open mind and staying away from negative stereotypes. I'm myself Russian and a political refugee/fugitive from Russia, hiding in Ukraine, after being persecuted in Russia, due to my political opinion on Russian invasion into Ukraine and Syria, and my memoirs book ( https://github.com/saniv/text/blob/master/one-life-in-russia.md ). Russia seeks international arrest warrant on my head, but Interpol refuses to arrest me. So I know my kind very well - you won't find more people with horrible attitude towards copyright (and any human rights in general) than in Russia. My compatriots love to pirate stuff, copycat other's work and basically refuse to buy movies and software legally (they even use some anti-semitic nonsense about Hollywood being Jewish to back up their stance for pirating stuff). I'm being a rare exception, ordering DVDs from Amazon and Ebay. I can justify my generalized accusation with a ton of examples. I.e. Mendeleev stealing periodic table from Lothar Meyer, Russians claiming to invent radio, airplane, and railroads, even math theorems (like Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem) were claimed by Russians, all Soviet computers and software were blatant copies of western ones, and same goes for Russian children books, like Wizard of the Emerland City and Buratino, which are just renamed copies of Wizard of Oz and Pinocchio. Same for "Russian" vodka, matryoshka, balalayka - all are of non-Russian origin. TLDR: I'm ashamed of being Russian. |
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eishiya
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![]() Posted: 30 October 2017 at 5:01pm |
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Such generalizations don't help anyone, they just harm those people who don't fit those stereotypes. I understand the negativity you feel towards Russians, and as a fellow expat I often feel it too. However, that is no excuse to be a dick and spread stereotypes and negativity.
All the posts in this thread that haven't come from you have basically been "please stop, this is unhelpful." Are you sure PJ is the right community for this sort of thread? |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 04 November 2017 at 2:25pm |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBoy
This eBoy guy appears to be the most famous and overhyped pixel artist. In fact, I first heard the term "pixel art" in connection to eBoy. Yet all eBoy produces are these flat looking quickly put isometric views with eye hurting palettes. Dunno, maybe I'm a just Henk Nieborg's fan and don't understand contemporary art, but it looks laughable that eBoy's pieces could be that popular. Then I just love, how official site represents all arts in jpg files: http://hello.eboy.com/eboy/2017/10/16/flughafen-ber-berlin/ also, look at that mirrored tree stump with banding in lower left corner |
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Hapiel
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![]() Posted: 04 November 2017 at 2:45pm |
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Here is the 1x uncompressed version of that image, also from the eboy website. I'm a fan of their work by the way :p
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PixelSnader
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![]() Posted: 06 November 2017 at 7:06am |
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I found a guy today that makes laughably bad pixel art, figured I'd post it here.
Beyond just the basic stuff like lacking originality and style, some of the stuff even misses some of the basic bits of pixel art or art in general. For example this eye which should be very simple because an eye is just a shiny sphere, but no. This is flat, dull, has banding, and isn't even round! Or this 'face', at least I think that's what it is supposed to be. An amorphous blob whose mouth sticks out further than the nose, mister fishlips HAHA. Also look at the macaroni cheese hair. Terrible. Triple terrible. Maybe if he tries to make smaller things? No. Even with less pixels it is just as ugly. How do I shade a sharp, hard metal sword. Yes! Five lines! This looks very sword and not a soft foam swimming pool tube at all. You want to know the funniest bit? He goes and talks about other of how bad it are! HAHAHAHAhahaha What a pathetic! He name is Sadkov, more like just SAD. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 07 November 2017 at 7:33am |
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Originally posted by PixelSnader I found a guy today that makes laughably bad pixel art, figured I'd post it here. There is huge difference between me and others. I don't pretend to be "Professional Digital Artist with a successful 4 year experience in that field, have an excellent knowledge of Photoshop, qualified in following fields: GUI, pixel art, icon art (from 24 pixels), avatars, illustrations, isometric houses (farm style games), background, animation and other related." I'm not even artist at all - I prefer hiring artists to do the job done. Also, here a computer programmer explains how he creates art for his games: http://tacticstudios.blogspot.com/2013/09/how-to-get-art-in-your-game-without.html TLDR: if you can't create better art than this guy, then being more humble won't be a bad idea. Regarding lack of originality and style, most of these characters were designed by artists from pixeljoint.com, whom I paid to do the original sprites. My job was only creating portraits. Checkmate. BTW, that eye is actually round, because I used circle tool do draw it. ![]() |
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eishiya
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![]() Posted: 07 November 2017 at 9:45am |
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Two circles do not make a sphere.
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 07 November 2017 at 10:00am |
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Originally posted by eishiya Two circles do not make a sphere. Actually, one circle makes a perfect sphere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_of_revolution |
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Hapiel
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![]() Posted: 07 November 2017 at 11:18am |
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Oh well. Taking critique is hard.
If you're interested, take the eye to the WIP forum and I'll help you make it round :) There is huge difference between me and others. I don't pretend to be "Professional Digital Artist I feel kinda bad for having to explain this... But you do realize that the art at OGA and Crossfire was made for free by enthusiasts who tried their best? The reddit upvoted stuff was by amateurs, although the work can be improved on, it sure is appealing. And the professional stuff? I don't find terrible flaws in it. Sure some things are more to my taste than others, and none of the titles you mentioned got famous for their great art, but considering that the developers had limited resources, and were only human, I don't think they did a bad job. I do hope that you'll be able to read all our critique in this post as well as you're able to write your own, and I hope that this will be the time I'm tempted to leave a reply in this topic. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 07 November 2017 at 12:39pm |
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Originally posted by Hapiel
Oh well. Taking critique is hard. If you're interested, take the eye to the WIP forum and I'll help you make it round :) So you're saying that circles created with Aseprte's circle tool are not round? Originally posted by Hapiel
But you do realize that the art at OGA and Crossfire was made for free by enthusiasts who tried their best? I do realize that a lot of their art is painted over sprites ripped from commercial games or stock archives, they even banned me Originally posted by Hapiel The reddit upvoted stuff was by amateurs, although the work can be improved on, it sure is appealing. I always wondered what processes happen in the brain of people who upvote and fav nightmarish stuff like say https://valforwing.deviantart.com/art/KH-Reborn-Dream-Download-170737784 https://valforwing.deviantart.com/art/Jurassic-Park-Furcadia-Dream-3-0-DL-289198444 Originally posted by Hapiel And the professional stuff? I don't find terrible flaws in it. And that house in lord of the rings is totally perfect, as well as Lost Vikings 2 remaster? Originally posted by Hapiel
Sure some things are more to my taste than others, and none of the titles you mentioned got famous for their great art, but considering that the developers had limited resources, and were only human, I don't think they did a bad job. Actually, Lost Vikings had nice pixel art, which was noted in reviews. Then bad people did bad job, botching the game and even getting paid for that. Originally posted by Hapiel I do hope that you'll be able to read all our critique in this post as well as you're able to write your own, and I hope that this will be the time I'm tempted to leave a reply in this topic. Critique is nice, but I would love you people elaborating why circle is not a round figure |
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eishiya
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![]() Posted: 07 November 2017 at 3:30pm |
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Re: circles, I think you misunderstood the critique. The circles are round, but your sphere is not spherical. You've not shaded it to look spherical/round.
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 09 November 2017 at 7:53am |
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Originally posted by eishiya Re: circles, I think you misunderstood the critique. The circles are round, but your sphere is not spherical. You've not shaded it to look spherical/round. Argh! Now I get what you mean. I used Warcraft 2 icon as a reference, and it isn't shaded either (although my icon does have specular highlight and it self-shades the tail). ![]() Anyway, that Warcraft 2 icon is one of the most questionable, because of that strange white dot, funny innervation and the pupil looking like some emerald gem. A sphere under sun light or other global illumination would look like a circle too. Moreover, the eye is lighted by that magic fire around it. TLDR: sphere would look different under different light conditions. ![]() |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 10 November 2017 at 8:49am |
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Found astonishing story:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Diana#Legal_troubles TLDR: person got criminal charges for "bad" art. Guess bad pixel art could be a felony too. Pick wrong palette and you're in jail :D |
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eishiya
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![]() Posted: 10 November 2017 at 9:28am |
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Note that the lit areas on both spheres in your posted illustration do not make circles. Sure, the outside remains a circle, but the shadow/light does not form another circle. Your eye's lit area is a circle, and that's why the eye doesn't look like a sphere.
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PixelSnader
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Actually, I am saying that the eye isn't round, as in a circle. Your two overlayed circles sometimes outline the eye, sometimes they are on the outermost pixels, and sometimes they are on the inside.
Here is a simple representation of your eye:
With 3 different colors because the rear side of the sphere is a bit unclear so you get some wiggle room there. Still, neither of those colors form a proper curve. And the right-hand side of the eye is both clearer defined and worse shaped; the mostly-1-pixel-wide grey line there is more like an octagon than a circle. You might have started off with two circles, but you didn't end up with two circles, nor a sphere. And what I'm seeing is that you like to kick down on others, but can't take the heat. So listen to yourself: Originally posted by snv
if you can't create better art than this guy, then being more humble won't be a bad idea. You can't. Be humble. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 11 November 2017 at 5:50am |
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Originally posted by PixelSnader
Your two overlayed circles sometimes outline the eye, sometimes they are on the outermost pixels, and sometimes they are on the inside. In other words eye fits good enough. Originally posted by PixelSnader You can't. Be humble. Again, I'm not an artist. You don't have to be a hen to understand that egg is rotten. |
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Hapiel
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![]() Posted: 11 November 2017 at 8:26am |
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I hope there comes a time when you will be able to read back this post and see what a complete fool you're making out of yourself.
:( Eishiya is being so patient and friendly, and Snader is being so crystal clear that I can not understand how you can still keep on trying to defend your ridiculous positions. It makes me sad to see people who honestly try to help you, and you being unable to process any of it. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 11 November 2017 at 9:20am |
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Originally posted by Hapiel I can not understand how you can still keep on trying to defend your ridiculous positions. OMG! I don't have any positions. I just created a thread with examples of pixeling which is funny in some way or another. |
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Hapiel
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By your positions I mean the following opinions which you've expressed (as I interpret them from your posts):
You think it's funny to show off "bad", and keep on doing so even when you only receive discouraging replies You believe that your eye is alright, even when Snader clearly points out that it is not round. You believe that your eye looks spherical because different light conditions have different effects on shading You believe that you're justified to make negative generalizations about Russians You believe that you're not an artist You believe you don't need to be humble You believe you need to defend yourself against the critical comments you received in this thread, rather than considering if they might say something valuable You believe you're doing nothing wrong Originally posted by eishiya All the posts in this thread that haven't come from you have basically been "please stop, this is unhelpful." |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 11 November 2017 at 10:42am |
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Originally posted by Hapiel
You think it's funny to show off "bad", and keep on doing so even when you only receive discouraging replies Originally posted by Hapiel
You believe that your eye is alright, even when Snader clearly points out that it is not round. I'm just pointing that it was drawn using circle tool. Sander points that I haven't spent enough time fitting the outline, but that is okay by me and galley curators still passed the eye icon, despite it being shoddily made, with little attention to pixel detail. Originally posted by Hapiel
You believe that your eye looks spherical because different light conditions have different effects on shading Nope. I'm pointing that a sphere could look flat due to environment it is placed in. Originally posted by Hapiel You believe that you're justified to make negative generalizations about Russians I'm speaking from 31 years of experience dealing with Russians. My personal blog in Russian is full of insulting comments from angry Russians: http://lj.rossia.org/users/sadkov/ Originally posted by Hapiel You believe that you're not an artist I don't have any formal education or even art courses, and I don't make living by drawing or designing. My only professional jobs were programming ones. So obviously I'm not an artist. Originally posted by Hapiel You believe you don't need to be humble I don't make any claims about my abilities as an artist, so... Originally posted by Hapiel You believe you need to defend yourself against the critical comments you received in this thread, rather than considering if they might say something valuable Well, I do agree that my art is badly drawn with numerous anatomy mistakes and little attention to pixels. So what? Originally posted by Hapiel You believe you're doing nothing wrong "Wrong" is a relativistic concept. I've just posted a few links in the "lol, just look at this!" vein. Say Encyclopedia Dramatica is full of articles making jokes on artists, like Christ Chan, who do lol-art Originally posted by eishiya All the posts in this thread that haven't come from you have basically been "please stop, this is unhelpful." I'm not posting these links anymore. Guess bad art is a holy cow, which is forbidden to make fun of. |
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Niding
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![]() Posted: 11 November 2017 at 12:29pm |
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Art isn't holy cow. However exhibit other's artwork in a bad light without their permission is not nice.
However I am too good to being petty picking in his thread to point out the double standard in your art isn't that much better than those you posted here. - Nidding, now sounding like your old strict auntie(if you ever had one) |
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NancyGold
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Originally posted by Niding Art isn't holy cow. However exhibit other's artwork in a bad light without their permission is not nice. Go tell that to people who make fun of Chris-Chan Originally posted by Niding However I am too good to being petty picking in his thread to point out the double standard in your art isn't that much better than those you posted here. I'm not pretending it is any good. Originally posted by Niding - Nidding, now sounding like your old strict auntie(if you ever had one) No. But I had communist grandpa, who beat my face with nettle and even cattle whip. Besides being the war hero of Soviet Union (he was awarded Gold Star medal for catching a few bullets with his head), my grandpa was also a pretty worthless artist. He had artist education, but his paintings were plainly bad, crude piece, done usually with painting knife (mestichino) and mostly about WW2. Yet he even got wiki article about him and his crappy art: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%91%D0%B2,_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87 |
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Niding
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Originally posted by snv
Originally posted by Niding Go tell that to people who make fun of Chris-Chan
Art isn't holy cow. However exhibit other's artwork in a bad light without their permission is not nice. Originally posted by Niding I'm not pretending it is any good.
However I am too good to being petty picking in his thread to point out the double standard in your art isn't that much better than those you posted here. Originally posted by Niding No. But I had communist grandpa, who beat my <span id="result_" ="short_text"="" lang="en"><span =""="">face</span></span> with <span id="result_" ="short_text"="" lang="en"><span =""="">nettle and even cattle whip. Besides being the war hero of Soviet Union (he was awarded </span></span><span id="result_" ="short_text"="" lang="en"><span =""=""><span ="st"="">Gold Star medal</span> for catching a few bullets with his head), my grandpa was also a pretty worthless artist. He had artist education, but his paintings were plainly bad, crude piece, done usually with painting knife (mestichino) and mostly about WW2. Yet he even got wiki article about him and his crappy art:https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%91%D0%B2,_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9D%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87</span></span>
- Nidding, now sounding like your old strict auntie(if you ever had one) So just because other is rude, you mean acceptable and justificied to be rude too? I can't change those people, but it would definely help if you stopped being acting like I/everybody harassed you. And there you are pretending to better, because your lack of self confidence. It is whole thing about others being bad, but in reality the whole thing is about you, because you don't feel good enough. That is you trying to make up with saying everybody is just as bad or worse. I can't argument with somebody who taking everything personal and the same time trying to objective. |
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PixelSnader
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Originally posted by snv
Originally posted by PixelSnader
Your two overlayed circles sometimes outline the eye, sometimes they are on the outermost pixels, and sometimes they are on the inside. In other words eye fits good enough. Not at all. That;s like saying this black shape is nice and round because it is sometimes inside the red circle and sometimes outside.
But hey I won't bother you anymore. You're either trolling, stubborn, or incredibly stupid, and I've got better things to do with my time. |
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NancyGold
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Originally posted by Niding So just because other is rude, you mean acceptable and justificied to be rude too? There is a big difference. Others typically use logically inconsistent argumentation, like personal attacks and ad hominem against me (i.e. you have no right to criticize art, because you're not an artist), which is really rude, while I've just pointed examples of funny art, which is not rude. Originally posted by PixelSnader Not at all.. I mean it is good enough for serving as placeholder art, which will be replaced when I find a way to pay real artists for proper art. I currently cant get a job or open bank account, because I've no documents - Ukraine is not America, where you can do bank operations or do business without any documents. |
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NancyGold
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https://twitter.com/ChristiesInc/status/930963628219666432
will something like be accepted to PJ gallery? |
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eishiya
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I know you're not being serious, but I want to bite anyway.
That particular image obviously would not be, since it's a photo of a painting and not pixel art. A pixel art version of that piece with emulated brush strokes using pixel art exhibiting decent pixel art technique would be, sure. The pixel art equivalent of that (pencil tool strokes not exhibiting good technique) would not. |
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NancyGold
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![]() Posted: 17 November 2017 at 11:33am |
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Originally posted by eishiya I know you're not being serious, but I want to bite anyway. That particular image obviously would not be, since it's a photo of a painting and not pixel art. A pixel art version of that piece with emulated brush strokes using pixel art exhibiting decent pixel art technique would be, sure. The pixel art equivalent of that (pencil tool strokes not exhibiting good technique) would not. Actually, some people here complain, that their pieces being rejected due to low effort or WIP quality. Including my own submissions (i.e. the red flag one) |
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eishiya
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A low-effort piece would fall into the last "category" I described.
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NancyGold
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Stumbled upon a self-taught Russian artist, who got sentenced to involuntary psychiatric treatment after drawing funny painting with Lenin, Stalin and other commies:
http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9B%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2 unfortunately he had no access to pixel art tools, with only medium available to him being ball pen ink, smuggled into asylum by his relatives: ![]() |
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