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Kfuchoin
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Topic: [WIP]Crap srry CraB lol
    Posted: 16 March 2007 at 3:29pm
this is an sprite i'm making for the pj game... but i'm a noobish :s
 
 
plz help as you wish feel free to edit, but tell me what you did
don't de afraid to critic i learn form mistakes


jalonso edit: included your pixel


Edited by jalonso - 16 March 2007 at 8:19pm
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Quote jalonso Replybullet Posted: 16 March 2007 at 8:29pm
Hi n00ber :D
For future reference, when you want to show your pixels, scroll down to the 'forum' code section of your imagehost and copy that, then use the image 'little tree' icon and paste it there. I did it for you on you this time post and will comment on your sprite even though I'm not a spriter.

The lighting style you have chosen is very unlike all the others added for the game. You are using an almost 2 dimentional lighting style there. Its not bad but it just doesn't match the others. Maybe its about 2-3 more colors. Some selout could help too.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 17 March 2007 at 2:25pm
thnx o.o :P
 
so basically i have to use 3 or 2 more colors... and the other i didn0t understood o.o
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Quote sausage Replybullet Posted: 17 March 2007 at 4:04pm
SelOut - Selective Outlining,   Don't ask me,   ask jalonso!    xD
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 17 March 2007 at 4:50pm
I think the colors need to be more saturated (i.e. more red, less grey). Also some of the lines are jagged.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 17 March 2007 at 6:59pm

@ Aleiav:

I haven't A.A so that's why the lines looks like that

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O.o... emmm and that is...
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Quote PixelSnader Replybullet Posted: 18 March 2007 at 1:48am
Selout is Selective Outlining. only using outlines in certain areas
i dont think it would work on this though, as its not the style ofthe game. you're using coloured outlines which is good (black isnt =P)
 
i think you should study shading a bit more, the crab's body looks pretty flat
something more towards this would work better i think
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 19 March 2007 at 12:39am
Well you don't necesarilly need AA, you can just smoothen out your lines.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 19 March 2007 at 3:50pm
Updated:
 
 
Added New Colors
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Quote Pixel_Outlaw Replybullet Posted: 19 March 2007 at 5:14pm
NEVER and I repeat NEVER AA sprite images on the outside.
 
The AAing algo was originally intended as a way to make image appear smooth against a set background. When you have a moving character sprite the AAing will become very ugly when not against the initial color.
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Quote sausage Replybullet Posted: 19 March 2007 at 11:39pm
Mhmm,  good point P_O
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 20 March 2007 at 11:52am

how can i soft the liens :s plz help me... so it wont look so Jagged o.o

P_O: thnx for the tip
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Quote sausage Replybullet Posted: 20 March 2007 at 11:55am
 have 2 things to say here,   
1- Jagged lines wont be too bad i suppose..

2- an easy way of learning is take examples from real games and Pixel art.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 20 March 2007 at 12:52pm
yeah i know, i always see real pixel art, game,. etc.. and detail everything... but here i need help :S
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Quote Aleiav Replybullet Posted: 21 March 2007 at 3:15pm
Right now the crab looks more orange than red. Try redding the hue a little bit. And the highlights seem unecessarily bright for a crab. Try not making 'em so bright.

Also, the pinchers look a bit more square than they anatomically would be for a crab. As you can see here a crab's pinchers are more rounded than you've got.

If you're looking for pixel art examples of crabs, the PJ gallery has many.

The best one I think, is iSTVAN's mini crab.

how's that for help, eh?
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 12:26pm
 
Update:
Changed the palette
Change the pinches
Lowered the bright
 
# Black Outline
 
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Quote sausage Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 12:36pm
Those edit's seem somewhat alot better,  Good Work!
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 2:31pm
thnx :D
 
guys what 1 do you prefer
 
SelOut one or Black outline one
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Quote sausage Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 11:37pm
SelOut.
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2007 at 1:53am
I think your confused by what SelOut actually is. Selective Outlining. All you've done is removed the black outlines.
You've also got 14 colours in it though your displayed palette shows 8.
Personally, I'd start by cleaning up some of the lines as well as utilizing some of the good ol' hue shifting technique to give some definition and pop.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2007 at 1:21pm
So plz can u show me what is a selout in an example
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Quote pixelblink Replybullet Posted: 23 March 2007 at 1:55pm
http://bigbluebubble.com/pixeltutorial/chapter12.htm
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 27 March 2007 at 1:52pm
still doesn't understand feel free to edit over my crab.. tomake the SelOutr so i'll learn o.o plz
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Quote ceddo Replybullet Posted: 27 March 2007 at 2:03pm
Look, Kfuchoin, if everyone was as lazy as you in the world, nothing would get done, and everyone would be asking others if they can do their work. If you read the tutorial and try to apply what Tsugumo says to your crab, you'll end up understanding what sel-out is.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:44am
I Know..!!!! i know i'm lazy and all that, i read all Tsugumo's teachings, and i tryed but still doesn't look good and i don't understand it :/
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Quote Blueberry_pie Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2007 at 11:56am
If you tried selout, just show your attempt here so we can tell you how to improve on it.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 28 March 2007 at 12:07pm

I read oce more Tsugumnos tutorial and one in an url hat was there, I think that I understood soon i'll post it

 
 
there you go :P


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