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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Topic: [WIP] Anorexia - Weekly Challenge
    Posted: 28 May 2007 at 9:52pm
 
 
there's C&C and possible edits are all welcome...
this is my entry fgotr the weekly challennge i wanted to make an anorexic girl...


Edited by Kfuchoin - 29 May 2007 at 7:38am
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 7:38am
Update=
 
changed the hair
changed the pallete
fixed the face
 
 
but i still need help wiuth that face..


Edited by Kfuchoin - 29 May 2007 at 7:37am
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 7:48am
I'll make an edit since I'm done with my PA
 
EDIT: done with the edit
 
 
I made the cheek bones more exaggerated and I made the rib bones more exaggerated aswell


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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 8:12am
ooooooooh thanks... i'll work on that ^^
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 8:29am
oh I also forgot I made the eyes bigger
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 8:31am
yeah i noticed =P
 
 
i just need the face to denote better (nose, mouth..)
well i followed Theguy edit, i didn't rip anything, used the pallete that i was using and added some colors...
 
also: i exagerated the bone of the shoulder..
and changed some thing in her arm
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 8:58am
her elbow is what you vhanged but you didnt need to add colors you need to take away you have used 35/36 colors and thats alot for a peice this small
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 9:17am
nop just 22 i think...

Edited by Kfuchoin - 29 May 2007 at 9:18am
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Quote Metaru Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 9:59am
i was triying to make an edit, but then i realized two things: is intentional this weird anatomy? and does she really looks like a girl?
 
also, i have a doubt about what is supposed to be that blue thing over her body.
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Quote Hapiel Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:02am
Originally posted by Metaru

 
also, i have a doubt about what is supposed to be that blue thing over her body.

Thats the unusual beauty
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:04am
First off there is nothing beautiful about anorexia.

Secondly her face is to full for being anorexic.

Thirdly.. is that just cloth going over her left shoulder, or is her arm under it holding it there?



I went ahead and shrunk her face, neck, and dropped her eyes down a pixel.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:04am
shes's supposed to be a model...
i know her face is pretty werid.. i don't know how to fix it =(
ammm the anatomy is because she's anorexic...
an yes it is intentional
 
 
 
i'll explain my idea:
 
why i made an anorexic girl?
because most of the models are anorexic and models are suposed tu be beautifull
 
update:


Edited by Kfuchoin - 29 May 2007 at 10:14am
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:30am
Oh my god!!! Her face is melting!!! wait..... is that Michael Jackson?

Seriously though... her chin needs to be narrower than the rest of her head... and not square...
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:48am
 
fixed the face?
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 10:58am
Is that a retarded monkey?  The nose should be less like... an "L"

Round up her face a little more so lit looks less jagged.

Also the black line under her left eye needs fixed.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 11:08am
ok
 
now?
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 11:16am
Why does being annorexic make you have to wear rags? Looks like in the first post you were aiming for something more like a zombie..

If you're gunna show the inner beauty of an annorexic girl, i'd suggest making it less dark and dingey and make her look more like a normal person, wearing normal clothes. I personally think it's a little small to show what you want to convey, but hey.

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Quote PixelDish Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 11:16am
The big L's of colour/shading on the face make it look weird... examine other portraits in the gallery to see how to shade a face.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 11:21am
ij ust need to a nose >.<
 
larwick: http://www.websaludable.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/anorexia1.jpg that's my reference (not for the hair..)
 
maybe i'll make a normal woman just next to her... =P to show the inner of an anorexic girl?
 
and thanks
 
 
PD: i will
 
 
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 11:51am
It's looking like a male now, make it more feminine. Don't use as many straight lines for the face, use more of a curve to make it less creepy.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 12:10pm
fooling around with the hair:
 
i don't understand edit please...
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 12:15pm
you have 35 colors in the top one and 37 in the bottom one I used GG to count these because it has an inbuilt color counter
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 12:17pm
Your reference is turned to the side. Your piece of clothing shows no real form, it seriously looks like rags. Almost caveman style, it's pulled to the side. Unlike on the reference picture, where it hugs her chest, only showing the side of her torso. On your pic it seems like she's showing her boob because there's nothing to give the impression that she's standing to the side. Her head isn't angled, her neck isn't twisted, her arm and shoulders seem straight... etc.

Perhaps you should try again on a larger scale? Putting in details will be much easier.


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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 12:22pm
Originally posted by Larwick

Your reference is turned to the side. Your piece of clothing shows no real form, it seriously looks like rags. Almost caveman style, it's pulled to the side. Unlike on the reference picture, where it hugs her chest, only showing the side of her torso. On your pic it seems like she's showing her boob because there's nothing to give the impression that she's standing to the side. Her head isn't angled, her neck isn't twisted, her arm and shoulders seem straight... etc.

Perhaps you should try again on a larger scale? Putting in details will be much easier.
=/ so i should make her bigger?
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Quote Noburo Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by Kfuchoin

i don't understand edit please...


Didn't you see the edit I did earlier?
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 29 May 2007 at 1:09pm
yeah of course =P... but what ever.. i erased here and made a new line art..
 
 


Edited by Kfuchoin - 29 May 2007 at 3:04pm
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Quote HiyuKantaro Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 6:53am
what are those things beneath her eyes? their HUGE! and change the rib color
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 7:15am
they're bags...
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 7:25am
you're pillow shading it, big time.  and the bags wouldnt be shaded exactly the same.  the angle of the eyes need to change.  eyes make a strait line across the face, you have them stepping.  also, that arm has WAY to much muscle to it for her to be that skinny

have a look at the creepy guy i did...  i used shading to give them the boney appearance.
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 7:44am
 
 
played around a bit.. and i gave her a more cartoony feeling..
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Quote theguy Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:21am

someone mangled the face to make one eyeball lower than the other ( I know its for persepecitve but it's TOO low)

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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 9:45am

is jsut 1 px lower...

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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:47am
The placement of the eyes are the least of his worries, theguy.

I did a quick paintover which will hopefully show you how i think you should shape the body. At the moment yours makes her look bloated, the bones are showing far too much and her arm and neck are extrordinarily thin. Also you seem to have detatched her shoulder with dark shadow lines. Also, the bags under her eyes are too puffy looking.

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Well anyway, hope i'm helping! Keep it up.
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Quote Ensellitis Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 10:53am
edit: damn you larwick :P  i'll remove my edit

to me, it seems you are running under the consumption that if you like, its good.  if you ever want to improve, you better drop that ideal right now.  that is what separates the the pixeler who pixels for around a year then quits, and someone who does it for their entire life.  people keep giving you good tips on what to change, and i have seen you blow off 2 of them, and basically blew me off except for the arm.


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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 11:15am
Originally posted by Larwick

The placement of the eyes are the least of his worries, theguy.

I did a quick paintover which will hopefully show you how i think you should shape the body. At the moment yours makes her look bloated, the bones are showing far too much and her arm and neck are extrordinarily thin. Also you seem to have detatched her shoulder with dark shadow lines. Also, the bags under her eyes are too puffy looking.

>

Well anyway, hope i'm helping! Keep it up.
 
can i use you redit as a base?
thanks =D
 
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edit: damn you larwick :P  i'll remove my edit

to me, it seems you are running under the consumption that if you like, its good.  if you ever want to improve, you better drop that ideal right now.  that is what separates the the pixeler who pixels for around a year then quits, and someone who does it for their entire life.  people keep giving you good tips on what to change, and i have seen you blow off 2 of them, and basically blew me off except for the arm.
 
i didn't throw your down O.o.. i said i was going on to change the shading
amm keep in mind that this is the biggest thing i've ever made.. i neverf worked with such a big canvas (just with the latyout but it was sperared in small pieces), i always read every post.. but there are some that i don't understand (pixel language) and i need osme edits, i ask for them but they never come...


Edited by Kfuchoin - 30 May 2007 at 11:18am
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Quote Larwick Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 12:18pm
You wait for ages and then two come at once!

Kfuchoin, i'd suggest not using my edit as a base to continue on. If you study it (and your reference picture) i don't think it'd be too hard for you to make something similar or better! (Btw i think the neck on my edit is still too thin).
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Quote Kfuchoin Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2007 at 6:26pm
down with the PillowShading
fixed the shading =D but i need help with the hair, any tutos?
 
 
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